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We have an 8 month old full blooded boxer that we are having some serious problems with. He has been to the vet twice in the past 2 weeks and at this point the vet says he has never seen anything like this and has sent off cultures and biopsy to purdue university for review. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what may be going on since no one here does.

Rocky started acting sick on Sunday 3/26/09. He did not eat his dinner that day and had bloody looking diarhea and was vomiting everytime he took a drink. This continued on Monday and he also began having bumps along the back of his neck and back. The vet put gave him an injection of penicillin and gave him an anti-biotic to take at home. By Wed. Rocky had began eating again, was no longer vomiting, but still had diarrhea. On thursday the bumps on top of his head had became small open sores. We thought this was likely from him scratching and called the vet on Friday. The vet prescribed a form of benadryl tablets and another antibiotic since he still had diarhea (no longer bloody looking). Since that time the diarhea has cleared up but over the weekend the sores on his head and neck became significantly worse and resulted in us taking him back to the vet. That is when the sedated him to clip the hair and clean the wounds and to get the culture and biopsy. At this point the wounds are trying to scab over but he has new bumps that have appeared on down his back and legs are we are afraid that these may open on their own also. I have attached pics which are very gruesome but am hoping somone can give us some insight. The first pictures of the few sores on his head are what it looked like last week when we thought he had just scratched. The other pics are from Monday. At this point we are just waiting to hear back from Purdue and keeping him on meds. Please help if you have any ideas. Thank you

There is another dog in the house (2 year old boxer) that has no signs of being ill so it does not appear to be contageous at this point.
 

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just want you to know how sorry I am you and your dog have to go through this. I have no advice or help with your dog's issues and I certainly hope you get some information soon.

The poor dog.. how's he doing?

Please keep us posted
 

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just want you to know how sorry I am you and your dog have to go through this. I have no advice or help with your dog's issues and I certainly hope you get some information soon.

The poor dog.. how's he doing?

Please keep us posted
He is eating and drinking some but not normally, he seems like he is very depressed and goes in the bathroom or his crate to lie down most of the time. He is having occassional bursts of excitement when someone comes over or he will run a little outside. Vet thinks a big part of the attitude is from the benadryl though...

Can't find much online about warbles but it sounds like it is rare. I wonder if the vet would have known if thats what is was though.

Anyone familiar with the term demodicosis? Some descriptions sound possibly similiar to what he has going on. I think the vet would have known about this condition though
 

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OMG, your poor dog...I feel so bad for both of you! I've never seen anything like that before, but warbles is definitely possible. We spent awhile studying bot flies in my parasitology class and the pictures my prof showed us were similar to yours (which are heartbreaking to look at). I hope that Purdue and your vet are able to figure it out quickly and that your baby heals quickly.
 

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He is eating and drinking some but not normally, he seems like he is very depressed and goes in the bathroom or his crate to lie down most of the time. He is having occassional bursts of excitement when someone comes over or he will run a little outside. Vet thinks a big part of the attitude is from the benadryl though...

Can't find much online about warbles but it sounds like it is rare. I wonder if the vet would have known if thats what is was though.

Anyone familiar with the term demodicosis? Some descriptions sound possibly similiar to what he has going on. I think the vet would have known about this condition though
Did you read the link I posted for you? You might want to print it and take it in to your vet.
I do hope they find something out soon for your pooch.
 

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Can't find much online about warbles but it sounds like it is rare. I wonder if the vet would have known if thats what is was though.

Anyone familiar with the term demodicosis? Some descriptions sound possibly similiar to what he has going on. I think the vet would have known about this condition though
Warbles are not rare. It may very well be something different (I am not a veterinarian), but by the looks of it, if it wasn't one of the first couple of things my vet looked into, I'd be looking into finding a new vet.
 

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He is eating and drinking some but not normally, he seems like he is very depressed and goes in the bathroom or his crate to lie down most of the time. He is having occassional bursts of excitement when someone comes over or he will run a little outside. Vet thinks a big part of the attitude is from the benadryl though...

Can't find much online about warbles but it sounds like it is rare. I wonder if the vet would have known if thats what is was though.

Anyone familiar with the term demodicosis? Some descriptions sound possibly similiar to what he has going on. I think the vet would have known about this condition though
I've not heard of it, but then I've only heard of warbles once or twice and never actually seen it.

Sometimes vets don't see first hand or see very rarely a condition. One of my dogs was just diagnosed with a condition that my vet has only seen 1 other time in his 20 years of practice.

Hopefully Purdue will have the answers you need and your vet can coordinate with you on treatment.

Poor guy, I just feel so bad for him, it looks so painful. I truly hope he feels better soon. Give him an extra cookie from me.

Please take the information BoxMeIn provided you into your vet and discuss it with him. It might help you find the answer quicker.
 

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I made my post before yours showed up. But yes I did read your link. It is hard to tell from that description if that could be what it is or not. I can't find any pictures anywhere. Would I have been able to see the worms? The vet never mentioned it but he has always been known as a good vet. So I don't know if it is something he ruled out or is something he is not familiar with.




OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just want you to know how sorry I am you and your dog have to go through this. I have no advice or help with your dog's issues and I certainly hope you get some information soon.

The poor dog.. how's he doing?

Please keep us posted
Did you read the link I posted for you? You might want to print it and take it in to your vet.
I do hope they find something out soon for your pooch.
 

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I can't find any pictures anywhere. Would I have been able to see the worms?
No, you won't see the larvae until they crawl out of the skin. They live under the animal's skin and form a breathing hole. I definitely agree with the others that you should print the info from those links and show your vet. I would also stress that you do NOT pick at any of them (I doubt you are anyways) because if it does happen to be warbles, picking could cause some serious secondary infections. Definitely talk to your vet about it ASAP, though.

As for pictures, I just googled warbles in the images section and some pics came up.
 

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I tried google images also but never saw anything that resembles by dog. I will try to talk to the vet tomorrow. Hopefully I don't offend him suggesting that he missed something...

If his neck is covered with open wounds wouldnt that mean the larvae had already crawled out?
 

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Warbles are common. Doesn't look like warbles to me. The breathing pore is smaller and your vet would have seen the larva they are not small. Where are you located?
 

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I tried google images also but never saw anything that resembles by dog. I will try to talk to the vet tomorrow. Hopefully I don't offend him suggesting that he missed something...

If his neck is covered with open wounds wouldnt that mean the larvae had already crawled out?
Ya know, I would be more concerned with finding out what was wrong with the dog than I would be about offending my vet. Just a thought...

Honestly, don't worry about the vet's feelings. You need to find out what's wrong with your boy. Taking an active role in your dog's health care is not only your right it is your responsibility. So, talk to him about the information you printed out. Chances are he won't be at all offended.

Please let us know what happens after you talk to the vet today.
 

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I agree with Renoman here. Most vets would not be insulted by any input from the owner. I hope you hear good news about your boxer's skin. Something that is easily treated. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
 

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Doesn't look like warbles to me. The breathing pore is smaller and your vet would have seen the larva they are not small.
In the earliest stages, the bumps (especially if covered by fur) would be easy to misdiagnose. Once the larvae have dropped out, the craters look much like the pics of "boxers'" dog. As the larvae mature, you can actually see the head of the beast sticking out of the breathing hole.



I'd agree that they are common enough that the vet would have ruled that out PDQ...unless the vet's experience was limited to urban housepets AND if (s)he had only seen the resulting craters and/or new bumps containing unhatched eggs.
 

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Oh wow! I clicked on this expecting to see little raised bumps- NOT this. POOR guy, and poor you, that is really something. What did the bumps on his legs do?
 
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