Is this stuff about seizure prediction real? What sort of seizures? What do they cue off of? Reliability? How is it certified?Recently on an outing Della did not want Heather to get in the water, pushing her back. An hour later she had a seizure.
So if I read this correct the Dog is not certified to try to predict seizures. If not, then by what rationale is the dog allowed in the school? The girl is not vision impaired and can open doors etc.Heather explains Della is nationally certified as a service dog, picking up dropped items, opening doors, trained in search and scent detection. "The most wonderful, extraordinary thing that Della does is something she has never been "trained" to do. Della can detect when I am about to have a seizure"
"Seizure-alert dogs, save lives". This is what the media would like the general public to believe, and while it makes for a great headline, it also makes for a grave misrepresentation of the truth.The truth is, seizure dogs can not be trained to “alert” a person of an oncoming seizure. Therefore, a seizure dog may be useful in assisting a person during or after a seizure, but is not guaranteed to be able to “alert” a person of an oncoming seizure.
I'm sorry to offend anyone, but these numbers are so small, the underlying mechanisms so poorly understood, the observations so open to different interpretations that it is hard to take this seriously as a bona fide service dog application.Of the 29 subjects ..... three were reported to also alert their human companion to an impending seizure.
My understanding is that they have provided the documentation on a few different occasions.Is this stuff about seizure prediction real? What sort of seizures? What do they cue off of? Reliability? How is it certified?
I would have no problem with a seeing eye dog rottie being in my kid's classroom at school for the benefit of a vision impaired classmate. I would have a problem with some kid bringing in a certified service dog of any breed based on some loosey goosey claims of benefits that the dog provides. There are a lot of strange people up there, and somebody has to draw a line somewhere; the school is in the best position to decide.
What documentation? He's not certified to predict seizures and the article does not say that the girl needs him for anything else.My understanding is that they have provided the documentation on a few different occasions.
Any evidence of this (the ability of the dog to predict a seizure)? The epilepsy web site referenced above pretty much implies its a bunch of hype, and you would think they would be pretty motivated to find such dogs, if they existed.The answer to your first question is YES it is true. Some dogs (not all) can predict on coming seizures. We cannot tell they are coming on ourselves but the dog can.
What rights are being violated if the dog is not serving a bona fide purpose?It is wrong and that girls rights ARE being violated.
I don't think its unreasonable that a school ask that people provide a reason why they want or need to bring a service dog with them. It would be nice if everyone was responsible and could be trusted to only use a service dog for bona fide reasons. But owning a service dog does not prove someone is responsible. The school is perfectly within its rights to act as a gatekeeper.Oh Peppy. I do agree with the part that you wouldn't like a person bringing in a dog for no reason. I think that would be wrong. If the dog is a certified service dog... there is a reason. It is against that persons rights to be constantly asking about "what is wrong with them, that they need a dog?"
I have not said a single word criticizing the use of bona fide service dogs or in any way advocated not accommodating people with special needs.peppy, i sure hope you are never in a position that a service dog would be required....i
Show me some solid evidence that a dog can predict a seizure and I'll happily retract everything I have said. Till then I'll believe what the epilepsy people said rather than anecdotes and media hype.Seizure response and alert dogs are absolutely a legitimate type of service dogs.
Well, I admit I had to look up "ableist" in the dictionary, so you get an "A" for vocabulary. However, you get an "D" for defamation as claiming that I am prejudiced against people with disabilities is an absurd reading of my comments. I am against abusing the service dog concept for non bona fide reasons, an attitude which should be considered to be supportive of disabled people.Peppy, your attitude is incredibly ableist. The right of a disabled person to use whatever accomodation is most appropriate is THEIR RIGHT. The fact that YOU think it's faking is just YOUR problem.