These are my newest additions. The people I rescued them from thought they were 12 weeks old when I got them so 13 weeks old now. The poor things were skinny and their coats were so dull. They're doing better now at 9 and 10 pounds. They said mom was a 100+ pound purebred Lab and dad was described as "over 100 pounds, black with long hair, brown feet and a huge mane around his neck like a lion". They thought Shepherd. Either they're younger or dad was a smaller dog.