Puppy Forum and Dog Forums banner

1 - 4 of 4 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hello,
This summer we have started our search to find the perfect Breeder for us, and we think we may have found it! We are looking for a Tri-Color (preferably) or black with a white tuxedo. Our breeder we like is on her 2nd litter of Bernedoodles. The mom is a Bernese mountain dog) and the father is a tan (favoring more of the fawn color). The breeder bred last year and produced all black Bernedoodles. This year she chose a different female Bernese mountain dog to breed with the same tan father. She believes they will be tri colored and multi colored. Is this possible for changing out the mom the puppies can come out different. Are there any questions we should ask the breeder about the mother that will help us know for a little more certainty they will be multi colored (I know nothings for certain, we’re just nervous placing the $500 deposit without knowing a little more about what to expect)

Thanks for all your help in advance, we’re so excited be adding a new little addition to our family!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
282 Posts
colours would be the last thing on my mind.. have these dogs had any health tests? I mean are you sure that hips and everything else is in order? have you seen the paperwork , because if you haven't let's face it anyone can put two dogs together and they'll do what nature says.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,547 Posts
Far more important than color is health. Both Poodles and Berners have some pretty serious health issues that are hereditary. These are the recommended health tests for Berners. https://www.ofa.org/recommended-tests?breed=BMD These are the recommended health test for Standard Poodles. https://www.ofa.org/recommended-tests?breed=PO&var=STD

Also, what do they do with their dogs besides breeding them? What kind of temperament testing do their breeding dogs have? Why did they pick these two particular dogs to breed (other than to make puppies to sell)?

I wouldn't buy a puppy, even a mixed breed, from someone who doesn't care enough to health test their breeding stock or prove that they have sound, sane dogs by titling them in some type of sport.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
As others have mentioned, color is the least thing to be concerned with when looking for a puppy but, I can tell you the outcome of the next litter will most likely be all black again.
The breeder switching out the Bernese bitch for another Bernese bitch will do nothing to create the desired tri color puppies because BMD are fixed for tan points and always pass that along. It's the male Poodle that is likely fixed for Kb, dominant black, and will only ever produce all black puppies with varying amounts of white when bred to BMD.
Honestly, I would pass on this breeder without even having to ask about health testing based on the fact that they haven't even done enough research to understand the basic color genetics of the dogs they are breeding. I wish you good luck in your puppy search and suggest you look for a breeder of multi-color Standard Poodles in place of a bernedoodle as health testing and predictability is more prevalent in that population and you are guaranteed a "hypoallergenic" coat for a similar price.
 
1 - 4 of 4 Posts
Top