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Miss Mutt's thread made me curious, what breed do y'all think would fit me best? =D I don't plan on getting a dog anytime soon, though, just.. maybe within the next three years or so? XD
Here are the requirements

1, Have to get along with Basil, my 1 and a half year old Papillon. Basil loves playing with other dogs and tolerates the energetic ones pretty well, but he's VERY mellow, and I don't think he could handle a super neurotic dog. Boyfriend's sister's aussie comes over all the time, and she's always jumping on him, mouthing his head like it was a tennis ball, and body-blocking him and herding him so he can't get to me when he's stressed, which stresses him out even more. She's a VERY hyper, anxious, neurotic dog, and that wouldn't work out for me. However, he's proven to be a pretty patient dog, he just needs his space every once in a while.

2, I'm fixing to move to Dallas with my boyfriend, semi-close to downtown. We'll be in an apartment, but the complex has SO MANY cool walking trails and stuff. The place is honestly huge. It's like a dozen or so sub-complexes within the whole thing, and there are all sorts of cool wooded areas, trails, creeks, lakes, etc. inside. It's like a little oasis in the middle of a very urban area! But yeah, needs to fit inside the apartment at the end of the day XD And, no BSL breeds and such, since it's an apartment.

3, I'd prefer a dog under 40 lbs or so. Medium to small I suppose, but it's not too important. Over 70 lbs is a little excessive for me, though.

4, I'll be going to school two days a week, for about 8 hours a day, with a long lunch break in the middle for potty breaks. I'll also be working most of the other days, about 6 hours, in the morning. So basically, all my afternoons are free. I also don't go a lot of places, unless it's somewhere I can bring my dog =3 I go to a LOT of dog-friendly places!

5, Gotta be willing to get up and "explore" with me every morning an evening, lol. I don't really run, but I LOVE walking all over the flippin' place. Basil and I walk in the mornings and the evenings, sometimes more if I feel like it. And that's just around the neighborhood walks, I'm not even counting when we go out places and do some more "exploring." I'm also not opposed to playing fetch with a ball and a long retractable leash, either. Oh, and we go to the dog park several times a week. Let's just sum this up as.. I want a dog that's willing to have fun and keep up with me, but not wear me out, either XD

6, Oh yeah, my boyfriend's really bummed out that Basil doesn't fetch, so a fetching dog would be a plus XD

7, Since I take Basil with me like.. EVERYWHERE, I want a friendly, polite dog, that doesn't jump up and slober people, but doesn't get freaked in crowds, either. Basil is my little "social butterfly" (Lol, get it, butterfly, Papillon? XD) He's a wonderful little gentleman, who gets excited to meet people and other dogs, but doesn't jump up or start whining and pulling, and he's also very tollerant of new places, crowds, children, car rides etc. Another dog like that would be nice =D

8, Grooming doesn't bother me much at all. I bathe Basil once a week, brush him every day (Sometimes twice, it's fun XD), I'm in the process of getting him used to the Peti-Paws thing, so I briefly graze his claws once a day. I'm REALLY partial to super floofy dogs, the poofier, the better! I'm not that fond of harsh, short, or "hair" coats, though. Oh, and shedding doesn't bother me.

9, I love Basil to death, but he isn't exactly the brightest crayon in the box. I'd really like a dog that's smart, willing to learn, and picks up on tricks easilly. With Basil, it's a struggle to get a reliable sit out of him! Though I remember training my boyfriend's sister's aussie.. it was a breeze, when she could sit still for a second!!

10, Oh yeah, one more thing! I REALLY like having a dog that follows me around from room to room. I tend to get lonely pretty easilly, and it's so nice to have that little furry ball of company curled up at my feet in the evening. I think I'd be pretty sad if I were to get a really independant dog that didn't really want much to do with me.


So, based on that info, what dog do y'all think I should get within the next few years or so?
 

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Papillon. ;)

I'm REALLY REALLY biased though. Most will fetch, though I have one that doesn't either. And they're supposed to be one of the most intelligent breeds. Mine are very easy to pick up on commands.

Oh, and paps go well in groups.
 

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Papillon. ;)

I'm REALLY REALLY biased though. Most will fetch, though I have one that doesn't either. And they're supposed to be one of the most intelligent breeds. Mine are very easy to pick up on commands.

Oh, and paps go well in groups.
Lol, this response was most preditable XD

But yeah, now that I'm thinking of it, I've always been very fond of Papillons. When I was a little kid, my mom promised me she'd buy me a dog, on one condition: That I research the heck out of which dog breed would fit best into our family. Guess what breed I figured was the best? A Papillon! Well, we never got that dog, but here I am now, all grown up, finally with a Papillon of my own, even though I've gone back and forth between a LOT of breeds, like shelties, aussies, corgis, etc. XD

And maybe Basil's reluctance to fetch and learn tricks is some sort of fluke. Or maybe he's just outsmarting me! O.O
 

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Whippet? The ones I've met have all been velcro dogs. They have the right coat for the Texas heat. They're not particularly hyper.
 

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I was actually really interested in getting an Italian Greyhound a couple of years back, and even talked to a couple of breeders, but I decided against it. That's almost like a whippet, lol!

These are really good suggestions so far! But.. what would y'all suggest that's got some fluff? XD
 

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I would actually suggest that you go to tricities and adopt Bracken (SDIT with the SD program I'm with)'s brother. 30 pound terrier x- not errier personality, super sweet, great size, adn I have NO IDEA WHY HE IS STILL THERE. :p He fetches and has a neat coat, although it's more wirey than fluffy- it stands off some.
 

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Lol, this response was most preditable XD

But yeah, now that I'm thinking of it, I've always been very fond of Papillons. When I was a little kid, my mom promised me she'd buy me a dog, on one condition: That I research the heck out of which dog breed would fit best into our family. Guess what breed I figured was the best? A Papillon! Well, we never got that dog, but here I am now, all grown up, finally with a Papillon of my own, even though I've gone back and forth between a LOT of breeds, like shelties, aussies, corgis, etc. XD

And maybe Basil's reluctance to fetch and learn tricks is some sort of fluke. Or maybe he's just outsmarting me! O.O
You have very similar taste to me. I think a sheltie, corgi or the *right* aussie could work. I'm working on venturing out to a larger breed this time (well, other than the shelts)

I do tend to recommend paps over shelties in most every situation though. It's probably just personal bias because shelties are really good dogs too. They're lower key than the paps, bark more, and are a lot more apt to be shy imo.

My two boys will fetch and such whenever you want, Rose will whenever SHE wants to. Summer won't ever, she thinks it's stupid. :p But she does know a long list of tricks and commands. The only one that was tough to start teaching was Nard and that's only because his attention span is all of 3 seconds. We're working on that and now he can do a few tricks.

But seriously I read everything and it was like you were describing my four to a T.
 

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Not too fuzzy, but.. Mini Schnauzer might not be a bad choice. Mini Poodle might be ok, too (they're in the 20 lbs. range). Trying to think of spunky, yet hardy small-ish breeds.
 

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If you wanted a small dog a Maltese might work. Our family had 2 years ago that were a bit (ok, a lot) oversized. An Australian Terrier might work. If you wanted a larger, gentle dog, you can't go wrong with a well-bred Collie.
 

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For like the millionth time this week, I'm gonna have to recommend a sheltie.
 

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For like the millionth time this week, I'm gonna have to recommend a sheltie.
Sheltie is also a breed that I've been seriously considering =D Last time my boyfriend and I went to a dog show, we saw some shelties, and he LOVED them!! Plus, they're definitely the kind of poofy that I like XD

I've heard they really like to bark a lot, though. Do you think they'd be okay apartment dogs?


Also, how well do you guys think a dog like a Samoyed or Keeshond would work for me? I've only met one of each at the same dog show, different years. The Keeshond was COOL! His owner was all excited because I pronounced "Keeshond" correctly and she let me pet him XD I've heard they're Velcro dogs, which is a plus! The Samoyed was equally cool, and I can't get over how pretty they are! His owner said they have very similar temperaments as Australian Shepherds.


(Also, random question, is it pronounced "sam-OY-ed," or "SAM-ee-ed?" I've heard it both ways, but I'm not sure which is right. Currently I say "SAM-ee-ed.")
 

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This has nothing to do with dogs, but where in Dallas will you be living? I lived in Irving for a while. Too hot for my taste :(
 

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This has nothing to do with dogs, but where in Dallas will you be living? I lived in Irving for a while. Too hot for my taste :(
I'll be living southeast of Irving, close-ish to Downtown. Have you heard of The Village apartments? Apparently they're pretty well known, it's like a little fenced in town in the middle of Dallas XD

Also, it's too hot for my tastes, too, so I'm moving as soon as I get out of college, lol!
 

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(Also, random question, is it pronounced "sam-OY-ed," or "SAM-ee-ed?" I've heard it both ways, but I'm not sure which is right. Currently I say "SAM-ee-ed.")
sah-MOY-yid is always the way I've heard it...though a quick google gave me about 6 different pronunciations lol...
 

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Things like not jumping, being polite, and doing well with children and crowds are things that mainly have to do with training and socialization. There are some exceptions of course, but for the most part, that's on you, not the breed you choose.

If you're going to be in an apartment, then cross all guard and bully breeds off your list.
If you can't handly neurotic, then you don't want *most* of the sporting or terrier or herding breeds, with exceptions of course (some of which I recommend looking into).

I say look into the American cocker spaniel, shih tzu, keeshond, or Tibetan terrier.
 

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I love Kees, but most of them (especially when altered) have coats that are a PITA (and I like to groom!) I'd get a well-bred Eskie or a GS before I'd get a Kees.

I'd recommend the GS as well, to be honest, but there's not any litters that I know of planned in this part of the country until my litter next year with Lizzie (sire yet to be determined.)
 

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Sheltie is also a breed that I've been seriously considering =D Last time my boyfriend and I went to a dog show, we saw some shelties, and he LOVED them!! Plus, they're definitely the kind of poofy that I like XD

I've heard they really like to bark a lot, though. Do you think they'd be okay apartment dogs?
I think it would depend on your complex...mine bark mostly outdoors and when the windows are open and people are talking outside or when someone is at the door. If there are alot of comings and goings around your apartment, doors slamming, or you can hear people talking, then I'd say yes they will bark. Ground floor near the parking lot would be the worst. If it's a quieter complex where people are generally gone in the day and asleep at night, they would do better, and getting them tired out before you leave them alone would help. Mine will quiet on command, but only when I'm home giving the command.
 

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I think paps are MUCH better for apartments than shelties. My shelties have all been big barkers. The only downside is my paps have been a lot more energetic than any sheltie I've had. They can zoom in small spaces, though, without knocking things over.

Summer is a loud pap, but she still only barks when it's pretty warranted. My shelties barked at everything, every noise, and Trey loves to bark for the heck of it. The worst is when you've got more than one because they feed off each other and it's hard to get them to stop. I've thought about another sheltie for the next dog but I'm hesitant to add another vocal dog while I'm renting. I wouldn't get a sheltie and expect it not to bark. With some serious training, it could be done.
 

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Things like not jumping, being polite, and doing well with children and crowds are things that mainly have to do with training and socialization. There are some exceptions of course, but for the most part, that's on you, not the breed you choose.
Well, I suppose what I meant was, I don't want a breed that will tend to get nervous or overwhelmed in crowds and new places. Like, a breed you would expect to be a guide dog or something. Not all breeds are right for that kind of job, though they still all require a considerable amount of training, yah know? =D

If you're going to be in an apartment, then cross all guard and bully breeds off your list.
If you can't handly neurotic, then you don't want *most* of the sporting or terrier or herding breeds, with exceptions of course (some of which I recommend looking into).

I say look into the American cocker spaniel, shih tzu, keeshond, or Tibetan terrier.
Heh, I forgot that I like Tibetan Terriers, lol! I love the way they look, but I hadn't looked into their temperaments and energy levels and such, so I didn't really know if they would be right for me. They really seem like a kind of dog that I would like to give haircuts, though XD

I love Kees, but most of them (especially when altered) have coats that are a PITA (and I like to groom!) I'd get a well-bred Eskie or a GS before I'd get a Kees.

I'd recommend the GS as well, to be honest, but there's not any litters that I know of planned in this part of the country until my litter next year with Lizzie (sire yet to be determined.)
I really like grooming too, but so they're THAT bad? Eeps! I really wish there was a way I could just groom random dogs to see which ones I was capable of handling, lol! Though I doubt anyone would let me, unless they're the "open-minded" type XD

Also, when you refer to a GS, are you talking about a German Shepherd? I've seen it abbreviated as GSD, so I got confused. Also, I'm definitely interested in Eskies! SO pretty, just like little Sammy's! XD

I think it would depend on your complex...mine bark mostly outdoors and when the windows are open and people are talking outside or when someone is at the door. If there are alot of comings and goings around your apartment, doors slamming, or you can hear people talking, then I'd say yes they will bark. Ground floor near the parking lot would be the worst. If it's a quieter complex where people are generally gone in the day and asleep at night, they would do better, and getting them tired out before you leave them alone would help. Mine will quiet on command, but only when I'm home giving the command.
Hm, our apartment is on the second floor, and to me it's relatively quiet, but there are a lot of traffic noises, and people hang out on their balconies quite often. All that barking would probably be a big issue!
 
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