Yeah, Mike attended many of his seminars and learned a lot from him as he mentioned it in his own e collar seminar but he himself avoids escape training while Bart is heavily into ET - I think that's the big difference between the two. He's definitely using e collars but his focus is a lot more on rewards ie. playing with the dog through toys. He has more laid back, play-driven philosophy so to speak.... closer to common folk like myself.I know that bart does use ecollars to some degree,
Sassy, Im also a big fan of mike. there are some vids of mike working w bart. Mike also uses e-collars and pinch collars, although I think bart may use e-collars more frequently.