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Hello all,

My girlfriend and I are hoping to get a puppy this fall. I prefer medium-sized, shorter-haired breeds, while she prefers big, longer-haired breeds. Because we live in an apartment, though, we've both agreed that a big dog might not be practical, so we're looking at more medium-sized dogs. We recently met a woman walking her beagador (beagle/lab mix), and found the dog to be adorable and delightful. But we realize that one cannot get an accurate idea of a dog after 3 brief minutes, so we're trying to learn more about beagadors.

Our background is this: We live in an urban area, and I work from 9 to 5. My girlfriend is a full-time graduate student, so she is often away from home all day and into the evening. So we need a dog that can handle being alone for most of the day. We want a dog that likes to be active, but that can manage with only an hour or so of vigorous exercise per day (it's unlikely we'll be able to spend long periods of time running or playing with the dog on weekdays). As I said, the dog should be okay living in an apartment. We also have lots of friends with dogs, so we want our dog to be sociable and to get along well with other dogs.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

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I don't know much about Beagles but with Labs...they are EXTREMELY high energy dogs. If you can't entertain them...they will entertain themselves...and I can almost guarantee that you won't like the results. :p They can be highly destructive when bored. They need a lot of exercise; an hour or so doesn't cut it...they need more. An hour walk just takes the edge off. I have a Lab and he's nuts, I'm saying that with affection but its true. They really need a committed owner that has the time to give them the exercise that they need.

The thing with these designer dogs is that you never know what qualities are going to show up...is it going to take more after a Beagle or more after a Lab? Or just a mixture of both? You just never know. Also, instead purposely buying a Beagle/Lab mix from a "breeder", I'm sure there are plenty in shelters that need saving. You never said if you planned to buy or rescue so I'm just throwin' that out there. There has been plenty of debate on this forum about designer breeds and they normally don't end well.

Also something that applies to ALL dogs, no matter the breed, they require, especially as puppies, a lot of time and attention. A puppy is not going to be able to handle being by itself most of the day. They won't physically be able to hold their waste that long...someone will have to be there at some point throughout the day to let the dog out. Puppies generally need to go out around every 2 hours when small, especially during waking hours. That is not to say that busy people can't have dogs. I was a college student myself, worked AND had 2 young dogs...but I had to make sure that they got out to use the potty during the day...even if it meant coming home to do it myself. It is just something that has to be done and there are other options that you can employ, such as dog walker, daycare, etc...but dogs just take a lot of time and commitment to raise properly. So the first step to all of this, is deciding if you REALLY have the time for a dog at this point. If you think that you do, look into breeds that fit your various requirements. Just do a lot of research. Dogs are a lifetime commitment and it really does make sense and pays off in the end to be completely prepared for the responsibility. After all, this dog is going to be a member of your family for 12+ years, you want to make sure it is one that you can live with for that length of time.

Good luck and welcome to the forum! :)
 

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As Mdawn said, it is impossible to tell with mixed breeds what temperment you are going to get. However, a beagle/lab mix IMO would not be the best dog for you. If it takes after the lab, it will be a very high energy dog and need a lot of exercise. If it takes after the beagle side, it could easily become bored when left alone for so long and become destructive (any breed will do this) and loud. I do not imagine a bored, baying beagle in an apartment being good for anyone. I would recommend an adult dog of whatever breed you decide on. Puppies will not tolerate being left home alone for such long periods of time. Good luck!
 

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Well, for starters, will you be looking for a "beagador" from a shelter? Anyone who breeds such dogs for hobby or business isn't practicing responsibly and is someone you should stay far, far, away from. No need for designer breeds with no accomplishments when tons of dogs like that are sitting in shelters.

A Retriever/Hound mix is going to need a lot of exercise... I know Labs who can go, go, go forever. At the same time, I know some laid-back labs too. As adolescents, they're ALL hyper.

If rescue is an option, I'd look for an adult dog that fits your needs. Rather than guess the temperament of a mixed breed, you will be able to more easily gage the exercise requirements of an adult dog.

You might want to look into sighthounds like Whippets and Greyhounds, as they generally do pretty well in apartments.
 

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As others have told you, when it comes to mixes, it's pretty much random what you're going to get. It's like playing Russian roulette with genetics. Really. Just go to http://images.google.com and enter "beagle lab mix". Pretty much all the dogs there look completely different from one another. Just as their appearance differs, so will their temperament, level of shedding, size and any other genetic trait.

If you are getting a mix of the two breeds, the best you can do is research both breeds. Just off the top of my head though, here are a few things that are common of both Beagles and Labs: they are HIGH-energy. Be prepared to go on two or three walks a day, coupled with training and games at home. They shed a lot, the Lab prolifically, the Beagle less so. Both breeds mature late. Labs are generally quite biddable; Beagles are notoriously stubborn. Both can get very destructive when bored, which happens when they are left alone for long periods of time. Both are VERY food-motivated and will eat till they burst, so it's important to watch their weight.

To be honest, I'm not sure if you have the right lifestyle for such a high-energy mix at this point. The possibility of a puppy is most definitely out... puppies need to be fed more times throughout the day, they need extensive socialisation and training, they need to be taken out every two or three hours and pretty much require almost constant supervision. Perhaps look into an older shelter dog that will be more content to sleep the day away while alone. I think an hour of jogging would be sufficient; it is more than enough for my 9 and 11 year-old Beagles.

Lastly, please avoid purchasing a mixed breed dog from a breeder. People who deliberately breed mixes contribute to the vast overpopulation crisis (trust me, Lab mixes and Beagle mixes are a dime a dozen in shelters) and are very irresponsible. By lining their pockets, you encourage them to continue worsening the problem.
 

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With a cross breed, you'll want to list all the good and bad temperament traits of each constituent breed. Now, assume you'll get a dog with all the worst qualities of both breeds. Can you live with what you've got?

Labs and Beagles are great pets...if you are prepared for their brand of fun. If you are not, hope that you'll at least look good with prematurely gray hair.
 

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I happen to own a Beagle/Lab Mix :) Her name is Johnnie she is a year old, one minute she'll plot down on couch next to you, and then next she wants to play & go for a run! She can be high energy and knowing Labs they're puppies forever no matter what age maybe up to age 5 etc Johnnie does shed though, she howls make noises like a Beagle

Anyways like other said you must do research visit your local shelter and spend time with the dog to be sure this is kind of dog you want?
 

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With a cross breed, you'll want to list all the good and bad temperament traits of each constituent breed. Now, assume you'll get a dog with all the worst qualities of both breeds. Can you live with what you've got?

Labs and Beagles are great pets...if you are prepared for their brand of fun. If you are not, hope that you'll at least look good with prematurely gray hair.
I remember starting a thread a while back on the worst possible pet cross-breeds. I imagined a Lab-Border Collie, but now I'm trying to imagine the trainability and voice of a Beagle with the size, shedding, & frenetic energy of a Lab.

The ears would be cute, though.
 

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I was told that my pup is a beagle/lab mix. She is definitely beagle, and I can see the lab, but I can't say for certain that there is nothing else in her. She is very bouncy when she is awake, but being only 5 months she still gets tired quickly. As her stamina increases though... lol. She is not very food motivated, although I may have just not tried a treat that is exciting enough to entice her! She is a very curious and smart dog. She loves all people, and is excited about anything new. She has short, soft fur, that is a little wiry at the shoulders and the base of her tail.

We are in an apartment, but it is quite large and has a balcony and she is quite small (about 18 pounds). I'm not sure how much bigger she will get. She is quiet, only ever barks when she is out of the crate, sat directly in front of me and wants my attention. The barks are not very loud, but quite high pitched. She currently gets a 30min-1hr walk in the evening (depending on temperature, we're in southern California) and as she gets older she will also get a walk in the morning while it is cooler, probably 20-30 mins. I am also home with her all day most days, but there have been occasions where she has been left for a period of time and she has had no problem. But it is not a regular occurrence for us. If we had to leave her everyday then she would definitely need the morning walk now. She sometimes pretends not to hear me, but is generally very eager to please, enjoying the praise more than any food motivator.

None of that was probably of any use to you. Every dog is different, even within a breed, so a cross can never be guaranteed. Within her litter there were several tricolors with beagle ears and two sandy colored with smaller ears. Ruby happened to be the only one unclaimed when I went. I was very lucky, in that I got exactly the temperament of dog I wanted, in a very cute looking puppy, that is growing into a beautiful dog. But I would never say that all beagle/lab crosses will be like her... If they were then everyone would have one :D
 

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Going into another direction, I too had the same questions as you. I feel there are options for you both - determine IF your able to come home or she is during the day to take the dogs out or someone that can. If so work from there.

I agree Beagles and Labs - NOT a fit Labs are known for thier chewing abilities of couches, doors and other large things. Beagles are adorable as well but they will be loud as thats their trait - the howling etc. So when your not home - this is what they will do.

I have two poms, I did a great deal of homework before I got them. Find a great dog, that fits your lifestyle. And a few thing's to keep in mind that I AM SO GLAD I HAVE DONE.

CRATE TRAIN - While your gone, off into another room for any length of time, during the night. NEVER make it a punishment to ge there. Play around the crate and always have water and something to chew to help their teeth and boredom. I DO NOT feed other than small treats in the crate.

TRAIN EVERYDAY - This helps during your absence during the day.
WALKS - Are great -not always an option so have a place or yard big enough to play in the evenings and weekends.

POTTIE PADS - My dogs are known to be smart but difficult to train, not at all - They are 6 months and have been trained for 3 months to go outside. (We were very consistent here - up every 30 minutes, followed them as they ventured the room)

Why I'm telling you this I'M NOT a pro like many on this forum are. They are very knowledgable and I am grateful for this forum, but if you have the need for the companianship as I did, you can find the dog that fits you both BUT you will need to make some changes to do it.

Good luck!
 

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A greyhound is the perfect apartment dog. A couple of 30-45 minute brisk walks per day. The rest of the time the greyhound will find the softest, cushiest place in your apartment and make it his bed. Most of them are perfectly content to sleep the day away while you're gone. Inside the apartment they are very sweet and affectionate.

You'll want to keep a muzzle on them when they are outside or with other dogs because their instinct is to chase and bite any animal that runs. Not a good dog choice if you have rabbits :D The other concern is that they are not good cold weather dogs if you like to spend a lot of time outdoors doing winter sports, etc.

The best greyhounds are found in greyhound rescue organizations. They are usually retired racers. The people in these organizations really know the breed and they can match you up with the right individual dog for your situation.
 

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Wow, thanks to all for the great advice!

As to the shelter/breeder issue, my girlfriend and I are a bit split on this. I would prefer a shelter dog, both for ethical and financial reasons. But she grew up in a family that raised show dogs (Gordon setters), so she takes the training of a dog very seriously and would prefer to get a dog from a breeder so that she can train it from a puppy. She's worried that if we get a shelter dog we won't know what we're getting, and there could be emotional/social problems. Anyway, I don't mean to tip off a shelter/breeder debate; most of you seem to think that a shelter dog is best and I appreciate that input. We clearly have a lot to think about.

We are giving thoughts to lots of breeds, I just brought up the beagador because I love the look of it and it's my favorite so far. Aside from greyhounds, are there other breeds/mixes that anyone recommends?

Thanks again!
 

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If you want a mix, go to a shelter. If you want a purebred, you can go to a reputable breeder or shelter. I still say an adult would be best for your situation. You can go to a shelter and meet a few dogs or talk to foster parents. Pick an individual dog that will be best for you based on the dog, not the breed. Good luck!
 

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I would prefer a shelter dog, both for ethical and financial reasons. But she grew up in a family that raised show dogs (Gordon setters), so she takes the training of a dog very seriously and would prefer to get a dog from a breeder so that she can train it from a puppy. She's worried that if we get a shelter dog we won't know what we're getting, and there could be emotional/social problems.
You're both right. I prefer to get a purebred puppy from a quality breeder. That way I have a really good idea what I can expect from the dog at various milestones in his development. While I have enormous admiration for the folks who do it, there's no room in my life for rehabilitating the broken and defective units of the canine world. "You may fire at will, Gridley".

OTOH, shelter/rescue dogs are not always somebody else's behavior problems. With the rise in unemployment and foreclosures, there are many wonderful pets who are being left behind when families are forced to move. If you decide to adopt a dog, I'd suggest that you research the various shelters and rescue orgs the same way you would/should a breeder. If the GF grew up with lots of dogs she should be able to tell the difference between dogs with temperament problems and those who have just had their training neglected.
 

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Wow, thanks to all for the great advice!

As to the shelter/breeder issue, my girlfriend and I are a bit split on this. I would prefer a shelter dog, both for ethical and financial reasons. But she grew up in a family that raised show dogs (Gordon setters), so she takes the training of a dog very seriously and would prefer to get a dog from a breeder so that she can train it from a puppy. She's worried that if we get a shelter dog we won't know what we're getting, and there could be emotional/social problems. Anyway, I don't mean to tip off a shelter/breeder debate; most of you seem to think that a shelter dog is best and I appreciate that input. We clearly have a lot to think about.

We are giving thoughts to lots of breeds, I just brought up the beagador because I love the look of it and it's my favorite so far. Aside from greyhounds, are there other breeds/mixes that anyone recommends?

Thanks again!
Good input. You're so right when you're going to a shelter you have no idea of what breed or/and behavior issues you will be getting into. I got Johnnie at 12 wks of age she was pretty young! As though the older dogs or the mid age dogs are little different not only that you don't know the storyline base on their background etc etc

If you're looking into a purebred dog you won't get it at shelters which is pretty rare that many shelters has them but yet in pounds they have TONS of purebred dogs that many times people will get a dog they always dream of they never ever do the correct amount of research that goes along with finding that breed you're looking for. I'd look into the American Kennel Clubs not only that the reputable breeders that are so involved with their breeding program to make a better breed outlook they do testing for health/behaviors I urgent you to never look into petshops or/and newspapers! For an apt dog could be a small to medium size dog which beagle/lab would be a size of a mini lab they would fit anywhere. Johnnie is age 1 plus she weights about 42lbs. She does get tired quickly after a long walk, if you do not do any training or/and exercise she will become destructive gets into things that she shouldn't

Anyways stick around and talk to people who are fully knowledge about purebreds/shelters/mix-breed dogs/breeders :)
 

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One more time, to be clear: I don't think anyone is advocating shelter dogs. What we are advocating is not buying a mixed breed mutt from an unethical breeder. If you want a mutt, go the rescue route. If you want a breed, get an actual breed from an actual breeder.

Shelter and rescue dogs are far from being all broken. I have found that it is relatively easy to spot the difference between a real problem and a lack of training.
 

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We are giving thoughts to lots of breeds, I just brought up the beagador because I love the look of it and it's my favorite so far. Aside from greyhounds, are there other breeds/mixes that anyone recommends?

Thanks again!
If you want a mix, go to a shelter. If you want purebred go to a reputable breeder. You won't find mixes at a reputable breeder because it's not improving upon a breed. Beagadors are not actual breeds, they are designer dogs, which are ridiculous.
 

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One more time, to be clear: I don't think anyone is advocating shelter dogs. What we are advocating is not buying a mixed breed mutt from an unethical breeder. If you want a mutt, go the rescue route. If you want a breed, get an actual breed from an actual breeder.
Exactly. No one is saying that you HAVE to get a shelter dog... just that if you're going to get a mixed breed dog, DON'T get it from a breeder. Breeders who breed mixed breed dogs are in it purely for the money; as a result, they rarely perform health tests or temperament evaluations on their breeding stock, and you're left with pretty much the same, unlabeled mixed bag of genes that your girlfriend is wary of in shelter dogs.

If you decide on a purebred dog, you can also go to a shelter or a breed-specific rescue; or, there are many members on this forum who will be able to help you locate reputable breeders of your chosen breed in your area.
 

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One more time, to be clear: I don't think anyone is advocating shelter dogs. What we are advocating is not buying a mixed breed mutt from an unethical breeder. If you want a mutt, go the rescue route. If you want a breed, get an actual breed from an actual breeder.

Shelter and rescue dogs are far from being all broken. I have found that it is relatively easy to spot the difference between a real problem and a lack of training.
Good post and very true. Honestly, a person who's irresponsible enough to breed and sell "Beagadors" is probably going to wind up with pups who have medical problems and possibly social problems worse than you'd ever find in a shelter dog. With Labs' hips as bad as they are, I wouldn't play around with this hybrid fad. Too many crooks out there trying to make a quick buck.
 

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Exactly. No one is saying that you HAVE to get a shelter dog... just that if you're going to get a mixed breed dog, DON'T get it from a breeder. Breeders who breed mixed breed dogs are in it purely for the money; as a result, they rarely perform health tests or temperament evaluations on their breeding stock, and you're left with pretty much the same, unlabeled mixed bag of genes that your girlfriend is wary of in shelter dogs.

If you decide on a purebred dog, you can also go to a shelter or a breed-specific rescue; or, there are many members on this forum who will be able to help you locate reputable breeders of your chosen breed in your area.
Believe me, no breeder is going to intentually breed beagle/lab mixes for the money.
 
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