Finally!!! I've been waiting for this for YEARS. I've known they've been talking about it for a long time
What? That's not fair to get rid of ILP. My dog IS purebred, not a mixed breed, and she's in ILP.More food for thought...
I wonder if, as a result, they will do away with the ILP program? It would allow those dogs to compete without having people trying to pass off their mutts as purebreds.
Why "M" beside the obvious answer?-- Mixed breeds would be allowed to earn "similar titles. Basically, the same titles for purebred dogs, except the title would be followed by an "M", e.g MACH-M (Master Agility Champion Mixed Breed), OTCH-M, RAE-M.
Why the exclusion?- Mixed breeds are not allowed to participate in tracking or breed specific sports, such as earthdog and lure coursing.
And if that dog is a proven winner why not?- Dogs competing in Mixed Breed classes are not eligible for national championship and invitational events.
Even if they did, I would imagine current ILP dogs would be grandfathered in or something. However, if they don't, it should at least make getting an ILP a bit more stringent in terms of how much leeway the board gives an individual about whom they have doubts.What? That's not fair to get rid of ILP. My dog IS purebred, not a mixed breed, and she's in ILP.
I'm glad this will help you and Marge...YAYYYY
This should make Marge's (hopeful) future show career a little easier, as we don't have too much AMBOR or ASDAA (or whatever it is) stuff here. AKC and UKC are the big two in my club. Yes!!!!!!!
To denote that it's a mixed breed. They are competing in a seperate class from the current ones offered for purebreds, likewise it would make sense that the title would be different as well.Why "M" beside the obvious answer?
Because Lure coursing, earthdog trials, herding, and gundog trials are breed specific events. A great dane is not allowed to compete in an earthdog trial and like wise and Afghan isn't allowed in the herding competionWhy the exclusion?
Keep in mind at the moment clubs are only allowed to offer mixed breed classes at standalone Agility, Rally, or Obedience events. That means any Agility, Rally, or Obedience held in conjunction with a conformation show CAN NOT offer classes for mixed breeds. Keep in mind it's taken many years just to get this far. Perhaps in the future if it becomes a profitable endevor they will open it up more, but at the moment the only planed expansion is to give some AKC discounts and allow access to the AKC website. Rome wasn't built in a day.And if that dog is a proven winner why not?
Why were you disappointed to find out they're AKC events?I was originally disappointed to find that they were AKC events, but hopefully my club will be one of the clubs who opt to include a mixed breed ring at the shows.
I highly doubt they would get rid of the ILP program. Essentialy it's free money for AKC. They get a registration fee from someone who wouldn't otherwise be able to register (and pay for) thier dog. That person would typicaly then go on to pay entry fees for shows and possibly extra money on certificates and other random AKCc goodies. And shoud they ever have the case where they're unsure if a dog is purebred they can just send a letter saying "sorry your dog wasn't accepted for the ILP program, but you can register him with our mixed breed program for another $35 registration fee"More food for thought...
I wonder if, as a result, they will do away with the ILP program? It would allow those dogs to compete without having people trying to pass off their mutts as purebreds.
I don't want all of Kechara's CD NA NAJ OA OAJ AX AXJ titles to become CDM NAM NAJM OAM OAJM AXM and AXJMMore food for thought...
I wonder if, as a result, they will do away with the ILP program? It would allow those dogs to compete without having people trying to pass off their mutts as purebreds.
So are classes separated by breed? MACH-GSD, MACH-BC, MACH-Basset Hound, etc.?To denote that it's a mixed breed. They are competing in a seperate class from the current ones offered for purebreds, likewise it would make sense that the title would be different as well.
I guess that makes sense, or I may have watched Babe too many times.Because Lure coursing, earthdog trials, herding, and gundog trials are breed specific events. A great dane is not allowed to compete in an earthdog trial and like wise and Afghan isn't allowed in the herding competion
Ah yes, $$$. Forgot about that driving factor.Perhaps in the future if it becomes a profitable endevor they will open it up more, but at the moment the only planed expansion is to give some AKC discounts and allow access to the AKC website. Rome wasn't built in a day.
That's pretty much the way I took it as well. The reason it took so long was simply because they wanted the revenue that many of the alternate venues were getting as performance dog sports become more popular even with the "out" crowd, but don't want to risk making it harder for purebred dogs to rack up points or to taint the "real" titles. So they compromised...if they pay we'll let them play...over there...I don't understand the "separate but equal" classification. I don't see any reason for it in agility and other events where the dogs aren't separated in competition by breed. Seems the AKC wants the money from the mixed breed owners, but don't want to "tarnish" their titles by events by sharing them with the mixed breeds.
Not to sound like an inquisitive ten-year old, but why are those trials breed-specific in the first place? If someone manages to train an Afghan to herd as well as a BC, I want to see it!Because Lure coursing, earthdog trials, herding, and gundog trials are breed specific events. A great dane is not allowed to compete in an earthdog trial and like wise and Afghan isn't allowed in the herding competion
Form follows function. But I want to see it too.Not to sound like an inquisitive ten-year old, but why are those trials breed-specific in the first place? If someone manages to train an Afghan to herd as well as a BC, I want to see it!
Because there is no way to screen the dog before the trial to prove it might be able to do the job. An Afghan is more likly to get killed jumping around crazyly by a cow than a German Shepherd Who already has half the "know how" bred into him, and the AKC just can't be taking chances like that. Not to mention a Aussie can't fit down a Earth dog hole lol.Not to sound like an inquisitive ten-year old, but why are those trials breed-specific in the first place? If someone manages to train an Afghan to herd as well as a BC, why not let it herd?
You will find fun run days open to all breeds. As for "real" field trials...a club is limited by hours in the day, equipment, etc...For lure coursing, you'd need multiple fields to accomodate a larger entry of opening things up to all breeds...or you'd have to limit entries. It would be a shame to shut out sighthound breeds because lure coursing is the true test of their abilities...if you are a breeder, your dogs *should* be out there and able to perform in lure coursing.Not to sound like an inquisitive ten-year old, but why are those trials breed-specific in the first place? If someone manages to train an Afghan to herd as well as a BC, I want to see it!
Because then we wouldn't be able to enter... this was before I read about the new mixed breed rule.Why were you disappointed to find out they're AKC events?