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One of the other posts on "giant" malamutes led me to google them. I am in no way condoning these breeders no do I plan on purchasing a puppy from them, just hoping someone can tell me what they mean by "advertising weight."

My conclusion is that the "advertising weight" is just a random number they picked to entice prospective buyers?? I'm so confused- is this something that they would (for example) use if they posted a litter on a website like puppyfind? I don't understand the purpose (if there is any). Is this a common practice in the larger (byb bred) breeds of dogs? Can anyone clarify?

*please let me know if there is a rule against posting links directly to breeders websites and I'll remove them.

http://www.hudsonsmalamutes.com/hudsons-malamutes-faq-200-pound-malamutes.html

http://lonestaralaskanmalamutes.com/kenneloperation.html
 

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Advertising Weight means "Hello I'm a BYB please don't buy from me!"

"I have the biggest Malamutes!" "I sell large malamutes!" means "Hello I'm a BYB please don't buy from me!"

Bigger dogs = Shorter lifespans, more health issues, etc. Never buy a dog for it's size.

My point is, what BYB's are trying to tell you about advertising or real weights or whatever is irrelevant. It's imaginary and they should go die in a fire. :p
 

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noooo, they feed purina puppy chow AND they keep the pedigrees a secret until you buy from them! you obviously dont know a good breeder when you see one!

/sarcasm.

How bizarre. I thought the whole "micro super tiny mini teacup" fad was (is?) strange, but faux weights listed alongside real weights might top that one.
 

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noooo, they feed purina puppy chow AND they keep the pedigrees a secret until you buy from them! you obviously dont know a good breeder when you see one!

/sarcasm.

How bizarre. I thought the whole "micro super tiny mini teacup" fad was (is?) strange, but faux weights listed alongside real weights might top that one.
Yeah frankly, it's the first time I've heard of advertising weight vs real weight. But um, there was also some person who breeds Wolfdogs that believe they evolved from Lions. Crazy is crazy. :p
 

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I may be wrong on this, but I don't think they are saying that people/breeders are giving 2 different weights for a particular dog, let alone side-by-side, but that there is a difference between saying "I have the largest malamute because he's 200 pounds and a complete overweight fatty" and "I have the largest malamute carrying a healthy, in-shape weight at 160 pounds."

I'm going to use an absurd example here, so bear with me...

But 10 of us have the only 10 Chihuahuas in existence. Well, I have the largest Chi and he's 30 pounds. But he's a complete roll of lard at an unhealthy, fatty weight. Does that really count? My ADVERTISED weight is 30 pounds. However, if he were healthy, he may only be a 10 pound Chi.

8 of the others all average 5 pounds, except the last one. He weighs a healthy 15 pounds and looks good, just ended up with some genetics somewhere that made him a big-boned guy. Looks just as he should, but larger in every way. His owner claims that his Chi is the largest at a REAL weight of 15 pounds.

That's what I got out of it. Like the author of the article in the first link believes he has the largest REAL weight Malamute at a healthy 160ish, though he's seen people claiming 200 pounders, but his belief is that anything approaching that weight is fat, overweight, and simply an ADVERTISED 200 pounds because at a REAL weight they'd be significantly slimmer.

It very well could be used in regards to breeders. "Oh, my litters make the largest Poodles" when that's based off of a bunch of fatties that have been over fed and under exercised. So sure, they're the "heaviest" but are they really the largest, natural, healthy Poodles?

And of course, there's also the simple "These dogs LOOK like they weigh that much, so I can claim it and people won't question it because it LOOKS believable and they'd love to believe they're getting something particularly special because it's the supposedly LARGEST" and that's just pure false advertising and lying to people to turn a buck.

THAT is what I get out of this.
 

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I don't think it's that they fatten their dogs up so they can say they are 200 pounds. I think they just say their dog is 200 pounds no matter how much their dog weighs.
 

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You don't see anybody selling their dogs on Body Conditioning Scores. Owners brag about how big in pounds their big dogs are, and how little their toy breeds are. You look at their dogs and you see a different picture. A big overly obese dog and a tiny frail dog that you wonder about a liver shunt. Not the picture of health in my eyes. Imagine seeing an ad whose breeder states all their dogs have a BCS of 4-5 BCS out of a 1-9 score.

Weight should not be the focus on why you want to buy from that person.
 

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^^^Exactly. I don't think that anyone (or very very very few anyway) actually just fattens up a dog to reach xxx weight simply to make such a claim, but the idea anyway of "this dog IS such-and-such weight" when really, sure it is, but it is that weight in an unhealthy way, but it too small or too large. While others simply are naturally big-boned or simply larger dogs of the same breed even. Just as you may have a runt of a litter, you've got that one that may just be oddly larger than the rest and will always be, and aren't fat in being such size.

But hey, wrong or right, if it appeals to someone...There's someone that will produce it or claim it. Not condoning any of such, but that's the reality that we live in.
 

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Doesn't really matter, neither kennel is one I'd suggest to anyone or support. On the first link there's a sire who looks like he might have Tibetian mastiff in him. Might just be me but he looks very much like that....
 

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I may be wrong on this, but I don't think they are saying that people/breeders are giving 2 different weights for a particular dog, let alone side-by-side, but that there is a difference between saying "I have the largest malamute because he's 200 pounds and a complete overweight fatty" and "I have the largest malamute carrying a healthy, in-shape weight at 160 pounds."

I'm going to use an absurd example here, so bear with me...

But 10 of us have the only 10 Chihuahuas in existence. Well, I have the largest Chi and he's 30 pounds. But he's a complete roll of lard at an unhealthy, fatty weight. Does that really count? My ADVERTISED weight is 30 pounds. However, if he were healthy, he may only be a 10 pound Chi.

8 of the others all average 5 pounds, except the last one. He weighs a healthy 15 pounds and looks good, just ended up with some genetics somewhere that made him a big-boned guy. Looks just as he should, but larger in every way. His owner claims that his Chi is the largest at a REAL weight of 15 pounds.

That's what I got out of it. Like the author of the article in the first link believes he has the largest REAL weight Malamute at a healthy 160ish, though he's seen people claiming 200 pounders, but his belief is that anything approaching that weight is fat, overweight, and simply an ADVERTISED 200 pounds because at a REAL weight they'd be significantly slimmer.

It very well could be used in regards to breeders. "Oh, my litters make the largest Poodles" when that's based off of a bunch of fatties that have been over fed and under exercised. So sure, they're the "heaviest" but are they really the largest, natural, healthy Poodles?

And of course, there's also the simple "These dogs LOOK like they weigh that much, so I can claim it and people won't question it because it LOOKS believable and they'd love to believe they're getting something particularly special because it's the supposedly LARGEST" and that's just pure false advertising and lying to people to turn a buck.

THAT is what I get out of this.
That is a big malamute! Sorry that cracked me up. lol
 
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