I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(

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Rimadyl can be dangerous, yes, but her dog was already in pain and had muscular problems before even going on it. Those problems are now gone, it wasn't the rimadyl that caused them (not saying the fish oil did ether).
  • 12-02-2010, 11:26 PM
    Pai
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Those side effects don't sound like Rimadyl's, though. The most common side effects of Rimadyl affect stomach, liver, and kidneys.
  • 12-30-2010, 12:33 PM
    jboboxer
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    I give my dog two capsules of fish oil and two capsules of vitamin E (feed her twice a day), but like you mentioned I only heard about fish oil originally, but after spending time on a few forums and reading a lot it's clear that vitamin E is necessary when supplementing fish oil.

    It's a shame that google is a better vet than most out there.
  • 12-30-2010, 02:45 PM
    theyogachick
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    To piggyback on the Rimadyl thing--when Loki was sick and in pain, they put him on Rimadyl...and two days later he lost all control of his bladder function. He would literally leak uring all over the place. He had a lot of stuff going on, but it was very coincidental to me that he got that symptom after the Rimadyl. It bothered me so much that when the tried to get me to put Gracie on it, I refused--just in case.

    And to the OP--I think you have to be careful no matter what supplement you use and always talk to your vet first.
  • 12-30-2010, 08:39 PM
    mitzi
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by megan2010 View Post
    I took him to the local vet, who examined him, couldn't see anything wrong, said it was "probably just arthritis". I asked for a referral to an Orthopaedic specialist to make sure.

    The specialist couldn't see anything obviously wrong with him, and said it's most likely arthritis with him being such a large dog, and we were prescribed with Rimadyl for the pain and inflammation.

    Both the vet and the specialist said I should also supplement him with Fish Oil and Glucosamine. I mentioned Neo was already taking fish oil and had been all his life as the breeder said they were great for healthy joints and a beautiful coat, with regards to the fish oil I told them he was having 8 capsules a day (keeping in mind he's an 80kg dog, 4 each meal), both vets said this was a good amount.

    That amount of fish oil sounds outrageous to me, when DH & I took the stuff I only took 2 a day and I weigh more than Neo (130#). Were these vets even listening when you told them 8 caps a day?

    BTW, DH & I stopped taking fish oil because it raised our LDL (bad) cholesterol signifigantly even tho' we had gone one a strict low fat diet. Once we quit those 2 caps a day our LDL cholesterol went down to the low 90s.
  • 01-16-2014, 12:11 PM
    peterinwa
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mitzi View Post
    That amount of fish oil sounds outrageous to me...

    Exactly! My bottle says 2 capsules a day for a person, and that dosage was four times that.

    Too much of a good thing is always bad.
  • 01-16-2014, 12:36 PM
    trainingjunkie
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Thank you to the OP for sharing. What a well-written and balanced post. All of us have to research and think about what we put into our dog's bodies and we all have to remember that every "body" handles things a little differently.

    I am glad your dog is on the mend and am impressed by your diligence in advocating for his care.

    As for rimadyl, again, all of us have to balance the risks and the benefits and consider what is best for our individual dog(s). I had a lovely dog who was on rimadyl, tramadol, and amantadine (plus fish oil and cosequin) for 3 years. High risk? Sure. But she had no quality of life without it. All situations are different and all of us have to consider our very specific circumstances when we make treatment decisions.

    Find a vet you trust. Learn all that you can. Adjust as your dog and situation requires. Keep learning.
  • 01-16-2014, 01:29 PM
    Little Wise Owl
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    This thread is almost 4 years old...
  • 01-16-2014, 01:58 PM
    peterinwa
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Yes, and it's being quoted all over the web.
  • 01-16-2014, 02:00 PM
    Xeph
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Which is weird...no clue why it's being quoted all over now.

    I have GSDs, who are not small. They get two capsules a day, that's it. Eight is just ridiculous
  • 01-16-2014, 04:14 PM
    Iceweasel
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    I think it was a bs post. Anyone that thinks a balanced diet for a dog with plently of fuits and veggies isn't playing with a full deck. They are called carnivors for a reason.
  • 01-16-2014, 04:19 PM
    peterinwa
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    My dogs eat kibble three times a day, then get veggie snacks between meals.

    A vet once pointed out that when a carnivore kills a herbivore, the first thing it does it rip the stomach open and eat the intestines, absorbing the vitamins and nutrition from the veggies it's been eating. He said they can't get too many veggies to supplement their diet.
  • 01-16-2014, 05:44 PM
    Iceweasel
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    A good dog food is going to have the vitamin and mineral content they need. They don't have the teeth or system to break down vagetables. They have very short intestines compared to humans, which is why they can eat raw meat and not get sick. Plant matter takes much longer to break down. That's why when grass goes in, grass comes out. I can't believe they are getting any nutritional value from it. I can believe that carnivores in the wild can get nutrition from partially digested plant matter from the stomach of a fresh kill.
  • 01-16-2014, 05:51 PM
    Kayota
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Dogs evolved alongside humans eating our scraps, which included vegetable matter. They've been eating those scraps for thousands of years and I believe they get more nutritional value out of them than wolves do. Also, dogs are omnivores. And the idea that dogs never get sick from raw meat is laughable, my dog lost weight no matter how much meat I threw at her and I had to give it up.

    That aside, I only give Roxie one fish oil tablet maybe twice a month at the very most and always add an egg to balance it out.
  • 01-16-2014, 05:52 PM
    Willowy
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peterinwa View Post
    A vet once pointed out that when a carnivore kills a herbivore, the first thing it does it rip the stomach open and eat the intestines

    Except they don't :/. They go for the organs first---liver, kidney, etc. Rich and nutritious. I haven't had the opportunity to see what's left after a canine is done with an animal, but cats usually leave the stomach and intestines of whatever critter they got. The only thing left is a little pile of rabbit intestines. . .and the feet :p. Dogs can usually handle processed veggies (pureed, cooked, etc.) but if you give them whole raw veggies, you'll usually see it come out pretty much the same way it went in.
  • 01-16-2014, 06:09 PM
    Iceweasel
    Re: I almost killed my dog with fish oil tablets! :(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kayota View Post
    Dogs evolved alongside humans eating our scraps, which included vegetable matter. They've been eating those scraps for thousands of years and I believe they get more nutritional value out of them than wolves do.

    Dogs are bred to be dogs but I do not believe their basic anatomy has evolved. If you bred humans to be very short, very blond and very heavy boned, they would still be human and have the same system. Microevolution can happen fairly quickly but macroevolution is a different matter.
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