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    Deciding on a second dog.

    Hi, I posted a while ago saying that my boyfriend and I were thinking about trying to adopt a corgi from a woman I work for, well, that fell through after some rather frustrating discussions.

    So we're back to the original decision. We want a second dog, and feel like we're ready to have one. We're in both in our final year of college (thankfully with extremely light course loads), and have reliable jobs and plenty of time.

    Our current dog is a male huskyxlab, who is extremely dog friendly, and loves to play with all the dogs in the neighborhood. He prefers girls to boys (not that he doesn't like guys) so we're sure we want a female dog, and we'd like to avoid the puppy stage and just get an adult dog. The decision we're making now is between a rough coated collie, and a border collie.

    We were hoping that some people with experience with either one or both of those breeds could give some insight, or make some recommendations that would help choosing one or the other.

    Thank you so much for the help!
    Pi

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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    I had a border collie growing up as a kid and it was one of the best dogs ever. She was sweet, loving and had enough evergy to keep up with us. She also was smaller (I've seen border collies in all sizes) so she was a great size for us. You could probably find whatever size you want. I vote for the border collie.

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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    What do you want in a dog? A border collie is going to be a lot more energy and work than a rough collie. They're both great breeds but BCs are pretty intense at times. If you want some good input on border collies, check out the bc boards.
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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    What we're looking for in a dog is:
    -A dog that really bonds to its people
    -A dog that gets along well with other dogs
    -A high energy dog that would do well in agility or herding
    -A dog that will do well in obedience, and is biddable
    -A dog that needs to be engaged mentally, and doesn't just want to lay around the house

    Our current day involves about 2-3 hours of outdoor running/biking with the dog, and active play. The dog we have currently is wonderful, and we love him, but he's not really mentally demanding. If he has a bone or something he likes to chew, he's okay being alone for a couple of hours. We're not unfamiliar to dog training classes, but CGC is as far as we've gone. Our dog doesn't really have any inclinations towards agility, and I fear for the sheep if we put him to herding.

    The other issue we're having in deciding, is that we really want a dog from a shelter, one because we don't want a puppy at all, and would rather have a 2-4 year old dog, and two because we feel like rescuing a dog would be a great thing to do. In our area there aren't a lot of rough coated collies in shelters (2 in a 300 mile radius), while there are an abundance of border collies. So it seems like it would be more possible for us to get a bc of the gender, age, and temperament we're looking for. My boyfriend finds rough coated collies to be more aesthetically appealing, but still thinks borders are adorable, and we both know that looks are one of the last reasons to get a dog.

    Thanks for all the input, and sorry for the text walls.
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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    I think a border collie is more what you want if you truly mean you want a demanding dog. Although a couple points... I think rough collies tend to be less reactive. Reactivity isn't uncommon in border collies. Many bcs are not dog park dogs because I find they really don't appreciate many in your face breeds. Also most bc people will recommend you do teach your dog to settle and chill for hours. You don't want a dog constantly 'on' and a working bc would need to lie around the farm much of the day. You can overwork them, many won't stop unless you really make them. Many have to be taught to settle and to calm down. Some people get into ruts by overdoing the exercise and thus create a dog that never settles and is constantly needing more and more.

    Check out the bc boards definitely for good advice. Especially if you want to get involved in stock work. Very knowledgeable people there and they are very welcome to people that are perspective owners. Heck, I've been hanging around there about a year and a half and still have no bc yet. Be aware that that board though is very strongly opinionated about many things. lol

    Have you been around many border collies? Just curious. I find the more you're around the more you can say 'okay this is for me' or realize it's not for you. They're a very unique breed. Another breed you could look into would be Aussies. They're great dogs and imo just as energetic and capable as a bc, they're just less intense. I find people are either aussie people or border collie people. I find aussies more overwhelming just because they're generally a lot barkier and bouncier, but they're nto exactly intense in the same way if that makes sense.

    Or another option would be a border collie mix. Many bc mixes are less intense than a purebred. They're about a dime a dozen too.
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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    I agree with Laurelin on the points of reactivity and teaching your potential dog what it means to "turn off."

    That said, if you know what you're getting into, have done your research and have actually seen BCs on the go AND talked to owners, then go for it! You don't sound like a person who wants a BC just because they're pretty or your friend told you how cool they are. You sound like you're serious about something and want to go ahead with new, "drivier" types of training.

    I do think a mix would be best, just so you don't wind up with a dog who has this abundance of drive and energy that you might not know what to do with, if that makes sense, lol.

    If you're open to other breed suggestions, a GSD might work for you as well.
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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    I currently have a Border Collie. I've always loved BC's, and Nell has been a great dog. If you feel you will be able to keep up with a really high-energy breed, then you would love the Border Collie. Nell does a lot with me, and we are in Agility as well. She can be really demanding as well. But overall, she's awsome. As long as she gets her exercise, she's happy. So I vote BC.

    When looking for the dog, be sure you spend some time, as there are some BC's that are complete nut-cases and bounces off all the walls. My Nell is not like this, she's a little more mellow, but is still a bit high-strung. Sonny was the complete opposite, he was a lovable teddy bear. He didn't care if you went out with him and exercised or just sat on the couch with him on your lap, lol. He just wanted to be with me. And in his new home, he's doing very well. Get's tons of exercise as well as a ton if luvin. And the best part about both him and Nell, they both love other dogs, no aggression at all. Nell's only issue is shyness of people, particularly other men. But she'd doing well. It's going to take us some time.
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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    They're actually having a good discussion about over-exercising on the boards right now and the importance of teaching an off switch. It's very interesting and good for a potential owner (imo). I can pm you the address if you want.
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    Re: Deciding on a second dog.

    The only thing I'm hesitant about is the fact that you're both still in school; even if you're already working full time, it's a much different lifestyle after you graduate. Bosses are a <I>lot</I> more willing to ask you to work extra hours now that your attention is not divided (except it's not really a request), and picking up the occasional tab at happy hour becomes a regular requirement. You don't really know what your schedules or finances will look like next year, so it might be worth waiting before adding another high-energy dog to the mix.

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