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    New Chesapeak Bay Retriever HELP

    I have some questions about my puppy. She is 7 weeks old and is growing up by the minute in personality and size.



    My questions are...When we first got her she would sleep and then go outside and go to the bathroom we would play and then shw would come in side and play and then sleep. We would repeat this over and over. Lately she doesnt want to nap. She will walk around whinning looking out the door and window and just laying in the middle of the floor whinning. When we were outside for about an hour and shes the one who ran to the door to go inside. Whats the deal?



    Next should we kennel her while were home also and only let her out to eat play and use the restroom. We usually only kennel her when were not home or at night....Recently when shes been whinning i have put her in the kennel and she doesnt whine and goes to sleep. Is this good or bad or what?


    Should i go to a simple obedience school around 10 weeks?


    At what age do i begin to train her with obedience and hunting skills. Shes going to be either an antler dog or a bird do. Antler dog first and if that doesnt work she will become an antler dog.?



    I appreciate your response



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    Re: New Chesapeak Bay Retriever HELP

    Honestly, you can start simple obedience (sit, come, etc) now, without them knowing that they're being trained. You could also get some bird wings and start letting her pack them around. You really want the birdiness to start young. Chessies can get big, so putting a leash on her now wouldn't hurt, it's easier to start early and have things under control before they're big and stubborn (another glorious trait).

    My dad used to raise Chessie's and I grew up with them. I love them, but if handled carelessly, they can be a bit agressive.

    If puppy likes her crate, let her in anytime she wants. I leave the crate door open in the living room and my lab puppy will go in and lay down when he's tired, or when he wants to chew on something that he doesn't want to share with the adult dogs.
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    I have her on a leash right now. We have gone on two or three walks she does good. I have the sit command down.. The come command and down command are in the works....She is still i will say half way through the housebreaking . She will pee sometimes if we dont pick her up and take her outside. Other times she runs outside after naps and eating on her own soo i dont know if shes got the muscle command to not let herself pee yet...Im buying some retriev books for us to work but she carries a antler and a goose around all the time.

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    May I suggest "Water Dog" by Richard Wolters (or any of his others). They're really helpful.

    I might avoid "The 10-Minute Retriever" by John and Amy Dahl. Some good stuff, but also advocates a B-B gun or sling shot to keep a dog from breaking. I'm all for correction, but shooting your dog, not so much.
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    I'm no expert- I've had my dog for about two weeks but she's a Chessie and she's an energetic thing above all else. In my research on the breed, I've found she really has nothing in common with golden/lab retreivers except for the name- she's an entirely different blood line.

    Chessies by nature (and mine upholds it well) are stubborn as all get-out. You really have to make her learn that you're the leader and that's that. She also needs way more exercise than I was anticipating- i'm actually fairly certain I can quit the gym because of all the running I do with her. (That's going to be a lot less fun once winter starts..)

    They're also really smart- she'll train easily once you go to classes, and they can get bored easily because they're so smart. I would suggest leaving her out during the day so she can get used to you and play if she wants, and if she's tired I'd assume she'll go into her crate and sleep (my girl is a bit older, so I don't crate her) but she probably wants to be with you if you're available instead of inside the crate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crogers4 View Post
    I'm no expert- I've had my dog for about two weeks but she's a Chessie and she's an energetic thing above all else. In my research on the breed, I've found she really has nothing in common with golden/lab retreivers except for the name- she's an entirely different blood line.

    Chessies by nature (and mine upholds it well) are stubborn as all get-out. You really have to make her learn that you're the leader and that's that. She also needs way more exercise than I was anticipating- i'm actually fairly certain I can quit the gym because of all the running I do with her. (That's going to be a lot less fun once winter starts..)

    They're also really smart- she'll train easily once you go to classes, and they can get bored easily because they're so smart. I would suggest leaving her out during the day so she can get used to you and play if she wants, and if she's tired I'd assume she'll go into her crate and sleep (my girl is a bit older, so I don't crate her) but she probably wants to be with you if you're available instead of inside the crate.
    You are so right on so many things! Stubborn--oh my! They also can be very protective, which can be good and bad. You're also right that they're nothing like a Lab or Golden. The only thing they have in common is that they are meant to retrieve. Chessies are much more durable in cold weather than most labs, although the coat on my Chocolate tells me he'd handle any winter also.

    The Chessies I grew up with had a tendancy to be a bit aggressive around other dogs, so start socializing now. Tons of exposure may eleviate the dog aggression.

    The last Chessie we had made it to 130 lbs, so they're built much sturdier than labs too. Granted she was excessively big, not over weight, but huge. Her head was about the size of the black bear head on my dad's wall. They can get big!

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    Re: New Chesapeak Bay Retriever HELP

    Its funny you say to buy that book cause i was doing some research and bought that book before i read your reply. Thank you for the advice.

    She is very stubborn as it is. She pretty much does what she wants unless i coax her to do something. Shes a good pup. She loves to retrieve when she wants to. I take her for walks already and that seems to be helping. Shes a chewer and chews anything.

    Like i said i have the sit command down but the others we are unsure about. She jumped into a pool the other day and went to the bottom and then came up swimming. She wont jump in anymore. I got her in and she loves to swim around and a great swimmer fast little thing.

    Im going to put her in some obedience classes at 10 weeks. Here is some pics

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    There's a thread here with tips on how to post pictures

    https://www.dogforums.com/8-dog-pictu...ng-photos.html

    Don't be too worried about the basic commands yet. Obedience classes are a great idea and will help provide a really solid foundation. Honestly, I never took my dogs for classes, did home-training instead, but I regret that now. Make sure she is up to date on her shots before going.

    Kennel her only when you can't supervise. Let her explore the room, interact with objects and people, etc. All this is part of the learning process and your puppy should be exposed to as much novelty as possible during these formative stages. So whenever you can keep an eye on her, so she doesn't get into anything she shouldn't, you can leave her out of her kennel. However, if you can't supervise (if you need to do some work, if you need to go out, if you're sleeping) she should always be in her kennel. It's safest for her and for your furniture.
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    Re: New Chesapeak Bay Retriever HELP

    of course chessies have different blood lines they aren't labs or goldens

    Chessies were the only retriever that were designed to guard and they were developed to guard the storage buildings where the hunters put their days catch (Ie, ducks and geese) on the chesepeake bay.... as such they are more aloof and have guarding ability that the others do not....

    let me just add that dogs are not stubborn.... it just means that you haven't found what motivates the dog yet.

    as for hunting dog.... well you can't have a hunting dog that isn't steady... so a good obedience foundation is a must.....

    if you are going to be using guns around her... give her a bit of time and then slowly introduce the sound of a gun with the gun far off..... and moving closer over time.... you don't want to scare her....

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    Awwww. What a cutie. I love retriever puppies!
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    She is cute...Shes growing and growing. Shes doing better im just letting her be a pup right now. In about 2 weeks i hope to get her in some classes for obedience

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    Obedience classes are a great idea. Don't expect too much of her, but around now you can start introducing to her what's allowed and what's not. Praise her for desired behaviour (chewing her own toys, lying quietly, playing without nipping) and reprimand her with a "No" for undesired behaviour (chewing carpet, nipping, trying to jump up to kitchen counters).

    She is around 8 weeks old now, right?

    This is a page on the general developmental stages of a puppy that you might find an interesting read:

    http://www.diamondsintheruff.com/Dev...talStages.html

    Bear in mind that this is a critical socialisation period for your puppy and she should be exposed to as many things as possible right now to prevent her from being wary or fearful in the future.
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    She is 9 to 10 weeks right now. Shes getting more bold and daring. We have been socializing her with LOT OF DIFFERENT dogs. She still doesnt respond too much to her name. She knows NO but whe i tell her to come its about 50 percent succesful. So im unsure about if thats normal. I think its about time for obedience classes. So im going to look into that. She can sit on command and shes doing better with peeing inside. She sits at the door when she has to go out. If we fail to see her sitting there she gets impatient and pees. Which is out fault so oh well.

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    I don't know much yet about training but we are picking up our lab on Friday. The lab is going to go through hunting training in a few months (for upland birds and waterfowl).

    The breeder said that the *worst* thing to do with a hunting dog is to play tug of war with it. I forget why, but it's because you want to teach the dog to give instead of to pull away. Plus don't chase the dog if it won't bring the toy back. Practice retrieving in a hallway where the dog can't go anywhere.
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    Please make sure you know those other dogs are healthy! I assume she isn't finished up with her vaccinations yet....

    She is *A*D*O*R*A*B*L*E!

    I think it's good to suggest that she go in her kennel every 3 hours or so, to encourage napping. And of course, she should be kenneled even when you are home, any time you can't supervise her directly. It sounds like she's a lot of fun to have around, though -- I wouldn't be able to let that cuteness out of my sight easily!

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    She is cute..

    However!!
    She is being so bad. When she was smaller she couldnt do much. Now she is getting bigger and she is becooming a terror. She is in the bitting stage right now...and its horrible. We tell her no and we dont play with her and she still tries and nip or bite when we walk away. Or shell be sitting next to us and we will pet her and she will start wanting to play. I dont know. we will hold her snout sometimes when she bites and tell her no...we tried swatting her on the behind..and nothing. even things like calmly telling her no or removing her from the situation she thin ks were playing. So to the next problem she wants to get on the couch. Shell do it right infront of me and i will tell her no and she knows no cause if said it before and shell stop or shell refrain from doing something. Sometimes she thinks im playin and she barks and tries to get on the couch somemore...So i swat her in the but i pick her up and remove her i just say no...nothing works......plus does anyone know how to get cranberry juice out of carpet...my wife sucks at watching her when shes home. She gets mad but she doesnt watch her. She listens well at things like sit, and stay...come is getting better but not bad. she retrieves ok right now shes only a pup. How do i fix these issues...are they normal...how do i stop the bitting!!!

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    Here's some advice on the biting from a dog-training expert:
    http://www.dogstardaily.com/training...ite-inhibition

    It will take a while for her to learn bite inhibition. By about 12-14 weeks, she'll probably get it. In the meantime, it's important to just be consistent with her about the consequences of biting.

    I'd encourage you to think about saying more than "no". For instance, my command for the dog to get off the sofa is "off!" For a puppy, I'd say the rule has to be consistent, no couch; our dog has now learned that she has to be invited up. (She does occasionally jump up on her own when we're out of the room, though.) She also has some pillows on the floor that she knows are hers, so I'll tell her "off" and then I take her to one of her beds (whichever is closest) and tell her "down".

    I'd also *really* encourage you not to swat her. If you do it gently, that may contribute to her thinking that you want to play. If you do it hard, she may eventually become afraid of you (puppies have a fearful period at 4-5 months). It's much more powerful to isolate her, withdrawing your attention, which pack animals like dogs dislike.

    Sorry, I don't know about the cranberry juice; you might try someplace like askjeeves.com for tips on that. You might suggest to your wife that she keep the dog leashed, with the other end of the leash attached to her belt, so that the puppy can't wander out of sight.

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    Thanks I appreciate the help. I feel awful when i swat her in the butt. She stops and listens when i do though and follows commands. Im going to stop that though and just try and isolate her. The thing is that how do you isolate her and still be in constant eyesight without putting her in her crate. .,....how does that work. If we ignore her she just jumps on the couch or bites or legs or arms to get our attention.....I dont know im goin to work on it...W e bought this sour apple thing spray and she hates it. as soon as we pick that up she behaves or barks at the spray bottle. we can set the bottle down on the floor and she will go crazy barking and bitting at it....

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    Sounds like the bitter apple works!

    I used the bathroom for "time outs" for my dog when it was clear that she had really run out of self-control. You can just put your arms across your chest and turn your back on her for 15-20 seconds though, if it's a single thing she's done to break the rules.

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