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    2 female dogs meeting on the street, not nice!

    I was dreading that this was ever possible! Me and Dakota were going on our usual walk and seen another woman with a dog that asked if they could meet, I said sure. Well they both were pulling to greet eachother and then Dakota goes underneath this other dog to sniff and lifts her up too since Dakota is bigger, not nice doggy manners! The other dog got right defensive, which I don't blame her and I heard growling out of their mouths I have never heard before! I corrected Dakota and made her sit, she did and then they went for eachother again and I then again corrected her and made her sit then they both settled down and sniffed nicely, this other female was not going to back down either. Anyway, Dakota has never acted like that before! Then it occurred to me that she never plays with females and the two females she does know are submissive. Were they both acting like who's going to be the dominant bitch??
    We ended up walking together for about a half hour and then they played off leash for about 15 minutes and played happily. This other dog named Kodais a year old and Dakota is a year and a half.
    Anyways, did I act right in this situation? Is this more of a common thing with two females????
    I'm terribly worried that she will act that way to all female dogs

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    Re: 2 female dogs meeting on the street, not nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by dakotajo View Post
    I was dreading that this was ever possible! Me and Dakota were going on our usual walk and seen another woman with a dog that asked if they could meet, I said sure. Well they both were pulling to greet eachother and then Dakota goes underneath this other dog to sniff and lifts her up too since Dakota is bigger, not nice doggy manners! The other dog got right defensive, which I don't blame her and I heard growling out of their mouths I have never heard before! I corrected Dakota and made her sit, she did and then they went for eachother again and I then again corrected her and made her sit then they both settled down and sniffed nicely, this other female was not going to back down either. Anyway, Dakota has never acted like that before! Then it occurred to me that she never plays with females and the two females she does know are submissive. Were they both acting like who's going to be the dominant bitch??
    We ended up walking together for about a half hour and then they played off leash for about 15 minutes and played happily. This other dog named Kodais a year old and Dakota is a year and a half.
    Anyways, did I act right in this situation? Is this more of a common thing with two females????
    I'm terribly worried that she will act that way to all female dogs
    It sounds like they got along very well after a slightly stormy greeting; just be glad they didn't hold a grudge! It sounds like Koda was telling Dakota that wasn't very nice, which was good of her, so Dakota will stay "up" on her manners, etc.
    Tonight at agility my dog and another dog got to goofing off with one another (my dog is small, the other dog is big). After a few minutes, my dog started doing the "zippy" thing, between the other dogs legs, etc. The other dog got "interested" and started nose-punching him, which I didn't like, so we broke it up. They were fine afterwards. Sometimes adrenaline runs high, and after everyone has settled down things are fine. I wouldn't worry about it yet

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    Re: 2 female dogs meeting on the street, not nice!

    when they first noticed eachother from across the street both of their ears were perked up and they were anxious to see eachother. I could tell by the other dog pulling on the leash (as well as my dog) that they were both in the same state of excitement but my dog shouldn't of lifted her off the ground when sniffing her! This is how she plays with some of her buddies and they like the ride,lol. When they were playing afterwards Dakota would fall to the ground and lay there letting the other dog play all over top of her.
    Maybe I'm worrying a little more than I should. I've been working on her slow greetings since I can remember. I just want a well behaved dog and I spend so much time with her trying different things for teaching. I don't want to fail this dog

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    Re: 2 female dogs meeting on the street, not nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by dakotajo View Post
    when they first noticed eachother from across the street both of their ears were perked up and they were anxious to see eachother. I could tell by the other dog pulling on the leash (as well as my dog) that they were both in the same state of excitement but my dog shouldn't of lifted her off the ground when sniffing her! This is how she plays with some of her buddies and they like the ride,lol. When they were playing afterwards Dakota would fall to the ground and lay there letting the other dog play all over top of her.
    Maybe I'm worrying a little more than I should. I've been working on her slow greetings since I can remember. I just want a well behaved dog and I spend so much time with her trying different things for teaching. I don't want to fail this dog
    I've seen dogs take liberties with good friends of theirs that they wouldn't take with dogs they rarely know. I greet some of my friends with "What the H--- do you want?!" in a joking manner, but I wouldn't greet a new customer like that at my business I wouldn't worry, it sounds like she might have just gotten a little over excited and Koda reminded her she was being a little too forward. Sounds like they've been getting along nicely since then It doesn't sound like you're failing your dog at all, give yourself come credit!

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    Thanks for that reply You made my day. This dog is what I have now, daughter moved out awhile ago and the boyfriend is never home due to work (not that he does anything with the dog anyway) so I'm trying my hardest to raise a good mannerly dog. She's my companion. I've been working on her down/stays and she's getting there. What is your opinion on making her do a down/stay when greeting smaller dogs? I thought this way she would be less intimidating since also alot of smaller dogs want to attack her right awayeven when she's behaving

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    Re: 2 female dogs meeting on the street, not nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by dakotajo View Post
    Thanks for that reply You made my day. This dog is what I have now, daughter moved out awhile ago and the boyfriend is never home due to work (not that he does anything with the dog anyway) so I'm trying my hardest to raise a good mannerly dog. She's my companion. I've been working on her down/stays and she's getting there. What is your opinion on making her do a down/stay when greeting smaller dogs? I thought this way she would be less intimidating since also alot of smaller dogs want to attack her right awayeven when she's behaving
    Glad to make your day!
    My dogs are what I've got too, I've got family but I basically live alone for now.
    If the other dogs are attacking her, I would probably shy away from doing a down stay. I *did* teach Auz to do a down when he meets smaller dogs, but I have him lie down with a fence between he and the dog (just in case). If she can do a down stay, I would ask for it with a barrier between the two, or both dogs on leash with room to be safe. It would be hard for her to do a down stay if she felt threatened, even by a smaller dog, and downs can be vulnerable, and you don't want to compromise the training she's had (and her trust in you) by putting her in that position. Make sense?
    I have learned that Auz can read dog 1000%'s better than I (surprising? lol). If I tell him to lie down and he does, but immediately (and slowly) gets back up, I know somethings up and there's a reason he's standing back up. He's not a dog to break a down; his downs are excellent.

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    Ya I wouldn't want her to feel vulnerable. Some of those little dogs are real quick to snap. I have alot of work ahead of me but she is worth it. I think I subconciously brought her into my life to learn more patience

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    Re: 2 female dogs meeting on the street, not nice!

    Whenever I have a potentially reactive client I always do what we call a quick meet and greet. You are allowed to walk up smell eachother real quick and then keep on walking. There's not much that can happen in 3 seconds. Victoria Stilwell also uses this method. I was surprised when I saw it on her show but happy

    After you have had a few successful "pass and go's" then you can start longer interactions as these passes have also helped wear down any anxiety or elevated feelings and allowed the dog to be more themselves. Usually with a mildly reactive dog it takes about 5 passes before they can walk nicely side by side then play.

    The situation you had sounds to me more like to bitches working out their petty pecking order BS before they could get down to the business of play. I don't know that I would have insisted on your dog sitting like you mentioned making them feel vunerable, I would have taken a few paces back or done a quick circle to recenter her attention then done the quick greet.

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    Re: 2 female dogs meeting on the street, not nice!

    I made her sit after her very rude greeting because she got offended after when the other dog was mad at her for doing that, as of yet i haven't made her sit for every greeting unless it's a person (or she will jump on them) How can I say this, she's like a bull in a china shop, when she greets dogs she practically rams her head into them to sniff their butt! She doesn't act like a lady but she sure knows when it's an older more dominant dog but takes advantage of the timid or smaller dogs unless the smaller dog is very confident. She really only seems to listen to me when I'm absolutely pissed, she doesn't act scared of me (I've never hit her) she regains control and then listens. She plays head games I swear!! She's got a thick skull too. This dog has been hurt all on her own but keeps doing the same things like things don't phase her, for example; getting her paw caught between the slats of the gate and she still does it but now her paw is just too big to fit in between, being on a tie out while camping and running at something full force forgetting she's tied up and practically hangs herself and she still does it! (maybe this year she won't) getting her tail caught in the door and still puts her tail in the same spot, you get the idea
    I'm taking notes though on all advice and I'm determined to train this little **it, okay maybe not so little

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