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    I think my poodle is part cat

    My standard poodle puppy, Jet, is almost 9 months old. He's a very agile dog, but I was not expecting to see him casually jump up onto the tall dining table like it was no big deal. It's about the same height as my kitchen counters, so he could now jump onto those, too, I suppose.

    I already keep surfaces clear of tasty and interesting things to prevent counter-surfing, but I'd welcome any suggestions about how to discourage him from playing intrepid explorer now that he's realized he's part mountain goat. I mean, he hopped right down when I said "#$%@! Off!" but obviously I can't have him jumping up on to the table AT ALL.

    Staying one step ahead of this little monster is an ongoing challenge. From now on I'm only getting clumsy stupid dogs.
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    Management is 98 % of the solution.

    For the the remaining 2 %, I would watch for those opportunities when the dog makes a conscious decision to NOT jump up. With close observation, you should be able to see the wheels turning in his head. Mark and reward THAT choice, and deliver the reward on the floor. Aside from the management, it's probably about all you can do.

    Through experience and repetition, he'll eventually come to understand that parkour is strictly an outdoor sport.
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    I never realized how easily Poodles can jump. Gypsy is only 3/4 Poodle but easily clears the six foot fence in their run just to get to the other side. Not trying to go anywhere. I put some wire on the top corner where she liked to jump and that has stopped it. She never tries to jump my outside fence and it is stock fencing and as she really does not want to go anywhere, she has never tried it even though it is only just over four feet high. The kennel run is about 80 feet long and about ten feet wide as it runs from the barn to the fence in my yard.
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    I would watch for those opportunities when the dog makes a conscious decision to NOT jump up. With close observation, you should be able to see the wheels turning in his head. Mark and reward THAT choice, and deliver the reward on the floor. Aside from the management, it's probably about all you can do.
    This. And never leave anything on the tables/counters that he will want. Never give him a reason to jump up there.
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jen2010 View Post
    This. And never leave anything on the tables/counters that he will want. Never give him a reason to jump up there.
    Jetty's reason for climbing things is the same as George Mallory's, lol.
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    As you've figured out Poodles are exceptionally smart dogs. Everybody thinks their dog is, of course. But Poodles learn something in one iteration. In other words, he's tested a system, it works, and he'll repeat it. For attention. Probably your shock and awe at this point, right?

    The trick here is going to be teaching him a different pattern of preferred behavior. (One) could be feeding him twice a day ON THE FLOOR. His level. If he gets up on the table, then he needs to know that some taboo circumstance will happen. Like you'll gently lead him off the table (with a Vet lead) and ostrasize him from company for awhile. "Hey, that's no fun! Not only did I NOT get the attention I wanted, now my situation is even worse" is what's he needs to learn.

    So, don't make a big deal out his mistake. At all. Just "sour" the opportunity of doing it. Make sure he has his own lovely comfortable bed or crate at food level. And that more wonderful things always happen inside of that crate. Like chewing on a Kong, filled with a frozen center (chicken or cream cheese or liverworst) inside a Kong. But everything worthwhile is going to happen on HIS level, not your's. You just have to think up a pattern of behavior that will reinforce the benefits of putting all is paws on the ground level (not acting like a Mountain Goat on your dinning room table). You have to be sure you don't openly react to unwanted behavior, because that's as good as the reward itself. Meaning your shock and awe, meaning he's successfully gained your attention. So you have to figure out a way to dampen that assumed reward in his mind. The least amount of interaction as possible, a gentle leading off of the unwanted.is his ultimate goal. You don't bad behavior happening on porperty he doesn't own.

    And so being offered an alternative that is much more fun fits perfectly into his world instead. Like a game of fetch. Or nosework.
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    I do think it's ODD that few people (meaning maybe 1 out of 25) ever acknowledge the wonderful replies seen here on the forum. The total of those "replies" represents decades of experience that owners have with all kinds of situations.

    Not sure whether people realize it can take a lot of time posting a comment. It's basically a free gift to someone. Providing experience and a recommendation that could steer an owner in the right direction.

    People are very self-centered these days. I hope some of those people are at least paying it forward!
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    You looking for a medal or something?
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    Snarkiness aside I can see you don't have anything constructive to do today, knowing that since I've joined, if any "regular" commenter was going to do that sort of thing, ....it's been you.

    However what's nice is to know whether or not replies are effective (and why). Not only does that also help other readers, but it gives the person replying a chance to adjust their assessment. After all, the goal here is to be helpful. And we all learn from one another.

    Being self-centered isn't a personalized attack on somebody who is not even known, but is just to say, folks live in a compartmentalized society. And it would be nice if we could occasionally work together.
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    It's just strange to me that you're looking for validation here. You could have just left it at your helpful post and trusted that it may have benefited someone. Yet within a few hours of commenting you feel the need to imply how people are essentially ungrateful and self centered? Did you actually respond to help someone or for validation and a virtual pat on the back? Were you implying that someone on this thread in particular was being self centered by not thanking you or anyone else on this thread?

    So yeah, my previous post was snarky. But your post was pretentious. You know what you could of written instead? "I hope my advice helps! Whatever you decide, I would love to hear what works for you!"
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    Re: I think my poodle is part cat

    "I hope my advice helps! Whatever you decide, I would love to hear what works for you!"

    Well that’s very true. I stand corrected. At the risk of being “Pretentious” instead of “Pacificsun” I will be appropriately changing my avatar.

    However, I have missed your subway station! The one where it tells people to get off. As in “it’s okay to judge me for judging someone but it’s still not okay to judge.”

    Validation never occurred to me, but civility has.
    Dang! Now my back hurts!!
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