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    Setback!

    Hey i think Ronin has had a major setback with his potty training. He's been going to the bathroom outside without any incidents for a little while now but this morning at 2 am he woke me up to take him outside. I opened the crate and he immediatly ran for the door i didn't even have time to leash him or anything. so i go up to follow him next thing i know he pee's on my carpet. I yell at him no and he stops, assuming hes done i go get the cleaning supplies and i come back and see that now theres another spot and he ran upstairs to my parents room. i have to go up stairs and retrieve him fairly harshly, i don't want him to go to my parents room ever, i then have to restrain him with the leash and clean up the mess. Then in the middle of the day i let him out to go to the back yard to do his business which he does, i then bring him back inside and bring him to my front door to put on my shoes and get ready to bring him for a walk and he goes on the carpeting in the front of my house. i have to clean that up too. i bring him for an approximatly 3.5 mile walk so he gets fairly tired, he pee's before going back in i eat, then feed him and let him out to pee again. And so he's laying down on my kitchen floor looking like he's going to fall asleep so i bring him to my room so i can keep an eye on him while i play some games or something. When i get to my room i put him down and he gets up and i go I M someone and turn again not even 30 seconds between looks and i now see an expanding puddle beneath him, i get really pissed this time and pick him up and bring him and lock him in his crate with the lights on, i again clean it up. I'm pretty sure he's responding to the whole pack leader thing, he generally listens, he walks behind me, i eat before him, i don't let him do anything that would make him believe he's dominant. I don't understand what the heck could have inspired him to pee on my carpeting 4 times today. I really hope this isn't the start of a new trend. I have tiled floor for his parts of the house for just these types of accidents but he didn't go on any of that today, it was pretty much as soon as he was hitting the carpeting. I'm more than certain my carpet doesn't smell like grass, and i do discipline him every time he tries to do his business inside, so anyone with any kind of ideas for me to try to stop him from going in the house. He's 4.5 months old now and i've been trying to teach him to go outside for at least 1.5 months now, when will he understand it's not ok to go inside the house? Should i try to feed him on the carpeting now or something, but mind you he has pooped and pee'd in his food bowl before. I'm really starting to lose my patience with him. I mean he was doing fine for a while every so often at night he might wet his bed, but i always cleaned that up and sprayed the de-oderizer on it. He kinda seem's like he's not learning. I would really like some help ASAP.

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    First off, if you were using the crate as punishment that last time, when you put him in it for peeing, that is a definite no-no.

    When he soiled in his food bowl, what did you use to clean it out with?

    Perhaps you could teach him to wait until you say it is okay to come out of the crate. I taught my puppy this by about 3 months. What I did was went to open the crate door. If he so much as TOUCHED it with a paw, the door slammed shut again and I made him wait a few more seconds before trying again. Lather, rinse, repeat. You could even add in a release word, such as "Okay!" meaning he can come out now. It took about a week or two for it to become reliable. But it helps things if you want to have time to put his leash on before he bursts through the door and hauls butt lmao... >^^;<

    Also, I notice the last time he peed, you were IMing somebody, which would mean you got distracted by the computer. All it takes is 20 seconds of distraction for the flood gates to open... >O_o;< If you think you'll end up being distracted by something, it's best to crate him, even if it's a 5-minute distraction. The only times my pup has ever had accidents were when I got distracted for just a minute by this darn computer lmao...

    Also, something you might try (I haven't experimented with it yet myself), is to go out and buy lavender oil. Rub some inside his crate so his crate will smell like lavender. When he sits in the crate, he'll start to smell of lavender as well. Then take an oil diffuser and heat some of the lavender oil, so that the scent of it spreads throughout your home. This is an attempt at getting the house outside of his crate to smell just like his crate and him, thus reinforcing that denning instinct. Worth a try, I'd say! >^_^<

    EDIT: I forgot to add that lavender oil has a natural calming effect as well, in case you didn't already know that. >^^;<
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    Along with Cheetah's very great advice I would say to remember that with Ronin only being 4.5 months old know he can only hold it about 5.5 hours. He could be going inside because he just hasn't learned to go outside yet. Don't ever spank, yell at him or chase him through the house when you catch him. Distract him while he is going with a shaker, clap or any loud noise. Then immediately take him outside and wait for him to go. When he does treat him. Yelling at him or rubbing his nose in the mess will only make him go in places you aren't at because all he has learned is to not do it in front of you. When you clean up the mess make sure he isn't looking. Also, use odor neutralizer and possibly puppy pads if you can't watch him all the time. I know potty training can be aggrevating but you are doing a good job. Try to hang in there!

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    Killerdrgn, you can do this! We believe in you! Your concern is a deep reflection of how much you want this. And if your continue to work hard with your dog, you will have a break through. Be persistent, and have patience. Understand what Cheetah and GSD lover wrote, it's very good advice. If I have anything else to add, I would say, increase your praise and reward when he does do his business outside...give him a jackpot of treats now and then to reinforce the good behavior. And, continue to work with him on obedience (come, sit, stay, down, etc.). It will happen Killerdrgn!

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    I don't know how long you are leaving him in the crate but if it was 2 am then it either had been along time or he has access to water way to late for a 4.5 month old puppy. My youngest is only 5 months and I'm just now getting where she makes it all night. I also go to bed late usually about mid-night to 1am and she will now make it to atleast 7, some days later now. But until she got pretty good I didn't let her have water after about 7pm, then walked her several times before bed. Also remember sometimes there is just bad days. It will get better. For example I have been leting both dogs sleep in the bed with me beause they have been doing so well making it thru the night. They did fine for a week, then out of the blue she went both 1 and 2 in the bed. I cleaned the sheets and took the comforter to the cleaners and the next night they were back in the bed, They have been fine since. I just restricted late night food and water. Good luck

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    Ah, yes. No matter how PO'd you are at the time of the accident, ALWAYS make an idiot of yourself outside praising puppy for going in the right spot LMFAO! >^_^<

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    Good point Cheetah. And the praise has to be real...your dog will know when you're faking it...at least mine does.

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    The real problem i see is that he's not totally relieving himself outside, most of these incidents happen usually right after he relieves himself once already. The 2 am thing, i don't let him have water after 8 and i let him out at 11-12. the other 3 incidents happen not so much as 5 minutes after he has already pee'd. I'll really try to keep my patience, and i might try that lavender thing, but i don't know where to get it, and i'm not sure if my parents would mind. They have allergies to pollen and such.

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    I don't think they use the pollen to make the oil.

    When he comes in from peeing, does he run around? Does he have a leash on inside or no?

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    He's usually pretty mellow after he pee's and poops. When he pee'd in my room i carried him in and into my room so there was no real activity between him pee'ing outside and then inside. And i used to let him roam the house leashless but after these incidents i don't trust him so much anymore. Oh and for some of the above posts, i don't normally use the crate as a punishment area, it was that i was just so pissed off i couldn't even look at him at the time.

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    I hate to be a harpy about taking dogs to the vet, BUT sometimes dogs revert to pottying inside the house due to a UTI. If you aren't seeing progress, you may want to check that out. The vet will want a fresh urine sample. If there is ANYTHING unusual about the color of the urine, get him to the doc ASAP. UTI's are fairly common and easy to treat.
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    i'm not sure what a uti is but he's going outside to do his business and then coming back inside to do it again. But today was better he didn't even try, i still need to work on him not putting his paws in the water and not jumping on people. But i think he's getting it i hope.

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    Killerdrgn, UTI is an acronym for urinary tract infection. Has your pup been to the vet recently?

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    He goes every 3 weeks, and his vet visit is coming up this upcoming week. I wonder if it could possibly be that since he's been watching me pee in the bathroom, that he's learning it's ok to pee on the carpet. I have a little carpeted rug in the bathroom that is right next to the toilet and he usually sniffs the carpet and looks at me while i'm pee'ing. I'm usually standing on the rug while i'm pee'ing too.

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