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    Why do they choose my couch instead of going outside?

    I have two mini schnauzers that don't know they are dogs, very spoiled, very loved. The problem- they get even with us when we leave for work or step out for a couple hours after work. And when I say get even, they decide to lift their legs. Anything from my leather couch, to the kitchen cabinets. I have bleached, disinfected and cleaned to get the scent/stains off. I have no idea which one is doing it. All I have to do notice a spot and look at them and one of them cowards down and either runs outside or hides under the bed shaking. I feel so bad, now I am at the point where I have be discreet and clean the spot or he runs and hides. It makes me feel horrible! When this first started happening I admit that I would rub noses in it and bring them outside and tell them to potty outside. I would stay outside with them until they did so- then reward them with a good boy. I don't feel like I am getting anywhere with them and am beyond frusterated. They have a doggy door, why do they choose my couch instead of the million bushes outside???

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    They choose the couch because they don't believe that you are their leader. You've admitted to spoiling your dogs...this can be the main cause for the behavior. Anytime you humanize a dog, poor behavior is not far to follow. Why? Because in nature, a dog understands the balance of the pack...a pack that has structure and a definate heirarchy. If you make your dogs your equal they will not know who to follow. So, they do as they please, and urinate on your coach. What you need to do is become more of a leader. Become more involved in your dog's life by giving them plenty of mental, physical, and social stimulation. You'll be amazed at what exercise and discipline can do for your dog. So, take them for long walks, teach them something new, and stop treating them like furry kids! Give them a dog's life. Good luck!

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    Try not to let them see you clean up the messes either. Put them in another room. It can confuse them if they see you cleaning it up all the time, and could possibly encourage them to do it again.

    Are your dogs crate trained or confined at all when you're not around? Dogs that haven't learned their boundaries should have limited access to the home until they learn, to prevent more accidents. My puppy is crated any time he's not being supervised.

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    I have a couple of questions. First, what sex are they and are the altered? if the male is not, I can almost guarantee they are both marking. If one goes, the other one will go on top of it, so you have a compound problem. 2nd, if they are cowering, it isnt because they know they did wrong and know you are mad about it. They are associating the cleaning with punishment. As curbside said, dont place human emotions on your dog. Mine all get on the furniture, etc, but none urinate or defecate inside. That is not what CSP means. You can still cuddle them, etc, but you have to do it in a way that shows YOU are the alpha.
    It may be a part of separation anxiety, or that they have not learned to amuse themselves without you.
    Make sure they get plenty of playtime both with you and with each other. When they do play with each other, resist the urge to always join in, let them learn to play without you and then you can also see if there are some dynamic between them that is playing out when you are uninvolved.
    CRATE THEM while you are not at home. Gradually give them more space as they learn that the house is thier home and not thier bathroom.
    Unless you plan on breeding, have them neutered/spayed
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    Thank you for scratching by back bigdawgs!

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    I have two males, one is 3 the other 2, both are not fixed. They are free to roam the living room & kitchen and are blocked off all other areas. Again, they have a door to run in and out as they please. When I get home from work, we have our play time and often they are taken for walks and also go to the dog park for more social time. I do allow them to play with each other without me stepping in. I have never crate-trained them, this perhaps could be my problem? They listen very well when we are home and know the basics- sit, stay, fetch & come. But again are very spoiled, maybe too much.

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    I really think that they are marking. Dogs mark to let other males know this is is their territory. beware!. The other dog marks on top of it to stake his claim. Dogs communicate with each other by smelling the urine. there is a lot of information! This is why it is so hard to get them to move from a tree or other object other dogs have urinated on. All that sniffing! They can tell the sex, health and studies suggest all other kinds of data. This is also why they sniff each others behind.. they are smelling the odors from the urine and anal sacs. They can tell if a female is in estrus this way as well. Neutering removes the testes, and with that the testosterone that drives much of the marking behavior. Because they have done it so much, it will take working with them after altering to completely stop this behavior. I have not had much trouble with this, as I have all females and only one male, so I cant give you any good suggestions on how to stop it, only what i think is causing the marking.
    By the way, can you define your idea of spoiling? If I say mine are spoiled, I mean the get premium health care, vitamins and lay on the furniture. They have rules of the house they follow, they dont chew inappropriate items, they dont potty inside they house, etc. but I consider them "spoiled".
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    schnauzers can be pretty stubborn, so it is not entirely their fault, it's a breed thing.

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    I beg to differ iamcool1109. My schnauzer is very willing to please. Have you ever owned a scnhauzer?

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    My sister owns two, and I have to agree with curbside
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    schnauzers can be pretty stubborn, so it is not entirely their fault, it's a breed thing
    I'm not a dog expert but I just read this from a book called Austrialian Terrier by Muriel P. Lee

    It is talking about obedience ring competition. It talks about challenges with aussies and terriers in general then follows with this:
    "You will see Golden Retrievers, Poodles, and Miniature Schnauzers in abundance in obedience classes, as these are breeds with which it is easy to work. Not only are they intelligent but, more importantly, they have a willingness to please their masters."

    I just thought it was interesting to read this right after reading this thread.

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