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    Beware K-9 Advantix

    This product is NOT safe and should be withdrawn from the market. We almost lost a 5 yr. old rat terrier last week because the vet suggested switching from Frontline Plus to Advantix. The dog got sick almost immediately...couldn't breathe, vomiting, couldn't walk, etc.
    We spoke to Bayer, whose vet opened mouth and inserted foot by saying "it could not have possibly gotten into his bloodstream". Yes, those are the symptoms of it getting into his bloodstream.
    We believe he was poisoned by OP (organophosphates) and since 43% of the ingredients are listed as "other" we can't even know the all the ingredients. And what makes the matter much, much worse is this stuff does NOT wash out like all previous types of flea and tick meds. Even the vet did not know this...she said just give him a bath it will be gone.
    People need to be aware of these dangers. Bayer is certainly not going to tell you, so we are. After bathing him twice in Dawn dish detergent, as prescribed by a Bayer Animal health consultant, he is still having problems with urgent, frequent urination. We are highly concerned about liver and kidney damage at this point.
    If any one else has had a problem with this product, please contact me, since I will be filing a complaint with the FDA.
    Also, I will update this tomorrow following his second vet visit.
    Barbdee

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    Oh lordy, thank you for posting this! I'm so sorry your doggie is sick with this. How many baths did you give him, or do they only prescribe one?

    I googled the issue and found this link. Maybe it can help you find answers to why this happened.

    http://www.elversonpuzzle.com/biospotletters.html

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    Good information - too bad it had to come with personal experience.

    Hope your dog recovers 100%.

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    Man that is just too scary, i can't believe garbage like that is out on the market.

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    Wow, I didn't know it could get into the dog's bloodstream. I use that flea drop stuff but it's a different brand. I wish your dog the best. Please keep us updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbdee
    This product is NOT safe and should be withdrawn from the market. We almost lost a 5 yr. old rat terrier last week because the vet suggested switching from Frontline Plus to Advantix. The dog got sick almost immediately...couldn't breathe, vomiting, couldn't walk, etc.
    We spoke to Bayer, whose vet opened mouth and inserted foot by saying "it could not have possibly gotten into his bloodstream". Yes, those are the symptoms of it getting into his bloodstream.
    We believe he was poisoned by OP (organophosphates) and since 43% of the ingredients are listed as "other" we can't even know the all the ingredients. And what makes the matter much, much worse is this stuff does NOT wash out like all previous types of flea and tick meds. Even the vet did not know this...she said just give him a bath it will be gone.
    People need to be aware of these dangers. Bayer is certainly not going to tell you, so we are. After bathing him twice in Dawn dish detergent, as prescribed by a Bayer Animal health consultant, he is still having problems with urgent, frequent urination. We are highly concerned about liver and kidney damage at this point.
    If any one else has had a problem with this product, please contact me, since I will be filing a complaint with the FDA.
    Also, I will update this tomorrow following his second vet visit.
    Barbdee

    i know you might be really sensitive about this as i would but do you think its allergies

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    Dog almost better

    The day after this happened, the vet thought he was allergeric and treated it as such with a cortisone shot and benedryl. But he just kept getting worse and worse. That's when we did some research and found out that this stuff does not come out like all of the other topical flea & tick preparations. Even the vet was unaware of this fact.
    A Bayer animal health consultant told us to use the dawn dish detergent (or benzyl peroxide) to neutralize it and he started to get better almost immediately afterwards.
    He was still having frequent urination and a whitish urinary discharge, so he went back to the vet today. They had to flush out his urinary tract and insert anti-bacterial ointment. She said some of the dawn might have gotten in there along with bacteria.
    So a full week now after applying that junk, he is finally starting to eat again, breathe normally and even play a little. What a nightmare.
    I do believe the FDA regulates this stuff, maybe just because it prescribed. I guess I will find out when they receive my complaint.
    Thank you for all of your good wishes and if you haven't tried this product yet, I wouldn't chance it!
    Barbdee

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    To Whirling Dervish

    That site you gave us was right on. According to them it is the Permethrin. It is also in Bio-spot, but the site is filled with people who lost dogs or who are now dying from Bayer K-9 Advantix. I guess we are very, very lucky.
    http://www.elversonpuzzle.com/biospotletters.html
    There is alot more information there than I currently have, if you would like to know more.
    Thank you, Whirling Dervish

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    I use Revolution for my dog, has anyone heard anything bad about that product?

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    try googling it, i found this link

    http://pub47.bravenet.com/forum/4004156732/show/32311

    This person has aggression problems after applying revolution.

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    Humane Society Info

    Someone sent me the following link which is quite comprehensive and describes the OP poisoning potential I mentioned in my original post.
    http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/wh...tick_products/

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    We do not sell revolution in our clinic, there are some issues with the way is works, but for the life of me I can't remember the specifics.
    I will tell you this little story. My saint and bloodhound tangled with a skunk, the day after I applied Frontline. I spoke with our manufactures rep about this, because you should not give frontline 2 days before or after bathing. SHe told me that ALL topically applied tick/flea preventer is somewhat absorbed into the skin, and if we had been using it faithfully, a bath sooner than normal would be ok, as there is residual medication that was already absorbed into the skin. before anyone goes panicking about topical meds, you need to understand that SOME breeds are more sensitive to some meds than others, and if you know this, you can select the propers meds. Almost ALL topical flea/tick treatments contain permethins.
    heartguard should not be given to collie breeds. You just need to be careful. Just like human meds..
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    ya i use frontline
    ........it's what i do best........
    ~*~*~spoiling my dog~*~*~

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    I used Advantix with no problems at all, so really I think it depends on the dog. Any time you put pesticides on your pet, you are taking a risk, no matter the brand.

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    Question Wow

    Wow thats good info, to know srry about the experince though, i use frontline though, we've never used advantix, now im glad But i wonder y it was made for dogs, it should be safe for them
    My dog's not spoiled ... I'm just well trained!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetah
    Any time you put pesticides on your pet, you are taking a risk, no matter the brand.
    Frontline and Advantage are also pesticides, and I have heard the same exact stories about both of them. >9.9<

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    Question Huh????

    WOW then what does work? I've used frontline on my past dogs and no reaction or anything, in fact, our vet prescribed it for us, and it works fine, maybe be a little pricy, but other than that it seems ok But hey different dogs, take to different things IMO
    My dog's not spoiled ... I'm just well trained!


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    Hence what I said before two posts up lol...

    If it's working for you, then there's nothing wrong with it. But people need to understand the risks involved with putting pesticides on their pets, and that some pets will react badly to them. >-.-<

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    Exclamation True

    Yeah thats true cheetah, but dont u also think if its u "cake" it on their skin a lot that might also be a problem, see we only use it once a month, but i know of some people who use it like 3 times a month And they wonder y they have skin conditions on their dog, oh well, common sense.....
    My dog's not spoiled ... I'm just well trained!


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    I used to work in a pet store where people would come in and try to buy the vials of Frontline and Advantage for 100+ lb dogs to break up and put on their 6 chihuahuas etc. And they'd get angry when I wouldn't let them have it (we kept it behind the counter for that reason). Those vials are VERY potent, and an overdose could KILL their dog. I hate when people do that. >X.x;<

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