That being said, I highly doubt that humping at 3 months has anything to do with hormones. Heck, my 18 month intact dog humps every dog he meets, but it's to initiate play, it has nothing to do with hormones.
That being said, the marking is crazy (not in the house, thankfully, but pet stores are fair game), and I'm considering getting him neutered in 6 months or so because of it (he's 90ish lbs now, but still has some filling up to do - his dad grew until 3).
Well, now Lila is about 11 mos. so we are still thinking here. Being a cross, it's a tough decision because a poodle would be ready for spay, but a bernese is a very large breed and there would be no rush.
One thing i have noticed is that her nipples have come in - they are pointy, but not swollen or anything. Up until a few weeks ago they were barely detectable at all. Now they pop out.
Does that means she is close to sexual maturity, or are we still early in the process? Does anyone remember when their puppy first showed this physical structure emerging?
Also, is there any way to tell if the growth plates have closed? I presume not.
Last edited by dalans; 04-04-2019 at 09:28 PM.
She could be getting ready to come into season, if she hasn't already. Both of my girls who went through at least one cycle have larger nipples and vulva than the ones who were spayed before they cycled.
The only way to determine if all her growth plates have closed is o take x-rays.
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I competed with my Shih Tzu x Maltese intact with no problems. When he was retired he started marking in the house for some reason so I had him neutered at 10 years old, problem solved. Right now my 3/4 Poodle 1/4 Golden is having her second season, never have had a problem with their seasons. May get her spayed now or wait for another season. It is only a couple of months a year you have to watch them and have never had any oopsies with all the dogs I have owned, you just have to not be careless.
It seems our little Lila (well, not so little any more - probably almost 75 lbs now) is, in some senses, no longer a pup. She entered her first heat over the weekend. This helps to explain the swollen nipples, the upset stomach, low appetite, and general 'off' behavior - clingy one minute, distant the next.
So far she has been extremely fastidious in keeping herself clean. So much so that we are not even sure when she actually started bleeding. A quick 'wipe test' with a kleenex proved things out though.
In terms of spaying, we will probably visit the vet in a couple of months.
I called around, and of course almost all vets recommended waiting at least a few weeks because the blood flow is much higher to her uterus than normal right now. There is no rush now anyways. One vet in particular was an outlier in suggesting I bring her in 'any time, not appointment necessary and we will get it done'. Prices were also very similar at the SPCA and the two vets I have visited from time to time over the last while. That outlier was the one that was different. While the SPCA and the two other vets I called came in at about 500-600 CAD, that one tried to sell me on doing it right away for 150 bucks. I was quite shocked. I have not trusted that clinic for quite some time and this sealed the deal.
If anyone is in Vancouver BC and wants to share recommendations - or warnings - feel free to PM me.
All the best
Dave (and Lila)
Last edited by dalans; 04-08-2019 at 03:39 PM.
I am glad she is having at least one heat prior to spay. this means she will have a mature vulva which reduces issues of inversion that can happen with a juvenile vulva.
I waited to spay my German Shepherd until she was 3 years old. I NEVER neuter a male dog unless there is a medical need to do so (such as prostate issues etc.). No need to neuter regardless. Simply don't let your dog run loose.
She is basically done her heat now. And is much more herself, she is being very fun and obedient, playful and in general sort of a little more grown-up then when she was menstrating and acting like a big baby.
for anyone else that is thinking about it, I can tell you that going through a heat cycle was really not that big a deal, at least not for us. If you think it is the best thing for your dog's health, it's probably not that bad to wait it out.
we did not even need to bother with pants or pads or anything like that. She kept herself pretty clean. From time to time we had to wipe the floor. And once she was so happy to see me she sprayed the wall a little from super excessive tail waving and bum wagging. But that was sort of flattering 🙂
Last edited by dalans; 04-23-2019 at 01:22 AM.