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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

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    This is very young to be neutered. It can also cause issues if done too early. I wouldn’t recommend this, but I hope it worked out fine for you. Did it stop the humping?
    Yes it stopped. Our Vet didn’t advise against it. It’s our 1st dog, I didn’t know there were problems associated with neutering an animal.

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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

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    We had our pup neutered at 3 months. He was humping like crazy and we didn't want him pissing everywhere inside.
    Unrelated or not, our 55 lb mutt (thinking he's some sort of border collie mix, he certainly had the herding instinct down when he was younger) was neutered at 8 weeks with a rescue, and he started getting joint issues at 10 or so.

    That being said, I highly doubt that humping at 3 months has anything to do with hormones. Heck, my 18 month intact dog humps every dog he meets, but it's to initiate play, it has nothing to do with hormones.

    That being said, the marking is crazy (not in the house, thankfully, but pet stores are fair game), and I'm considering getting him neutered in 6 months or so because of it (he's 90ish lbs now, but still has some filling up to do - his dad grew until 3).

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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

    Quote Originally Posted by blujacket View Post
    Yes it stopped. Our Vet didn’t advise against it. It’s our 1st dog, I didn’t know there were problems associated with neutering an animal.
    Don't feel bad about your choice, you made the best decision at the time with the information you had from professionals . We have all been in that situation and made choices that we felt were ok or for the best for our animals at the time. Don't feel bad gain experience for the future , we have to make the hard choices for our animals and we always do it for the best for them.

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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

    Quote Originally Posted by PatriciafromCO View Post
    Don't feel bad about your choice, you made the best decision at the time with the information you had from professionals . We have all been in that situation and made choices that we felt were ok or for the best for our animals at the time. Don't feel bad gain experience for the future , we have to make the hard choices for our animals and we always do it for the best for them.
    Thanks. After reading some info online I felt bad. Lot of differing opinions though. Our pup has doubled his weight since being neutered, seems in good health for now. We'll continue to love and nourish him for the time we have, that's for certain. His mom is a Border, not sure about father(s). He's 53 lbs now at 6 months

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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

    Well, now Lila is about 11 mos. so we are still thinking here. Being a cross, it's a tough decision because a poodle would be ready for spay, but a bernese is a very large breed and there would be no rush.
    One thing i have noticed is that her nipples have come in - they are pointy, but not swollen or anything. Up until a few weeks ago they were barely detectable at all. Now they pop out.
    Does that means she is close to sexual maturity, or are we still early in the process? Does anyone remember when their puppy first showed this physical structure emerging?
    Also, is there any way to tell if the growth plates have closed? I presume not.
    Thanks all
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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

    She could be getting ready to come into season, if she hasn't already. Both of my girls who went through at least one cycle have larger nipples and vulva than the ones who were spayed before they cycled.

    The only way to determine if all her growth plates have closed is o take x-rays.
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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

    I competed with my Shih Tzu x Maltese intact with no problems. When he was retired he started marking in the house for some reason so I had him neutered at 10 years old, problem solved. Right now my 3/4 Poodle 1/4 Golden is having her second season, never have had a problem with their seasons. May get her spayed now or wait for another season. It is only a couple of months a year you have to watch them and have never had any oopsies with all the dogs I have owned, you just have to not be careless.

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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

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    She could be getting ready to come into season, if she hasn't already. Both of my girls who went through at least one cycle have larger nipples and vulva than the ones who were spayed before they cycled.

    The only way to determine if all her growth plates have closed is o take x-rays.
    Hi all - closing the loop here - I hate it when people leave things hanging because it creates a less useful resource for the community when visitors reference past threads.

    It seems our little Lila (well, not so little any more - probably almost 75 lbs now) is, in some senses, no longer a pup. She entered her first heat over the weekend. This helps to explain the swollen nipples, the upset stomach, low appetite, and general 'off' behavior - clingy one minute, distant the next.

    So far she has been extremely fastidious in keeping herself clean. So much so that we are not even sure when she actually started bleeding. A quick 'wipe test' with a kleenex proved things out though.

    In terms of spaying, we will probably visit the vet in a couple of months.

    I called around, and of course almost all vets recommended waiting at least a few weeks because the blood flow is much higher to her uterus than normal right now. There is no rush now anyways. One vet in particular was an outlier in suggesting I bring her in 'any time, not appointment necessary and we will get it done'. Prices were also very similar at the SPCA and the two vets I have visited from time to time over the last while. That outlier was the one that was different. While the SPCA and the two other vets I called came in at about 500-600 CAD, that one tried to sell me on doing it right away for 150 bucks. I was quite shocked. I have not trusted that clinic for quite some time and this sealed the deal.

    If anyone is in Vancouver BC and wants to share recommendations - or warnings - feel free to PM me.

    All the best

    Dave (and Lila)
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    Re: when to spay a large breed dog

    I am glad she is having at least one heat prior to spay. this means she will have a mature vulva which reduces issues of inversion that can happen with a juvenile vulva.

    I waited to spay my German Shepherd until she was 3 years old. I NEVER neuter a male dog unless there is a medical need to do so (such as prostate issues etc.). No need to neuter regardless. Simply don't let your dog run loose.

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    She is basically done her heat now. And is much more herself, she is being very fun and obedient, playful and in general sort of a little more grown-up then when she was menstrating and acting like a big baby.

    for anyone else that is thinking about it, I can tell you that going through a heat cycle was really not that big a deal, at least not for us. If you think it is the best thing for your dog's health, it's probably not that bad to wait it out.

    we did not even need to bother with pants or pads or anything like that. She kept herself pretty clean. From time to time we had to wipe the floor. And once she was so happy to see me she sprayed the wall a little from super excessive tail waving and bum wagging. But that was sort of flattering 🙂
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