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    Cancer Support?

    It's come to my attention that there are quite a few dogs on the board right now with cancer of various sorts.

    I don't want this to be a medical thread (that will get us shut down), but I figure we can all use someone to talk to about this crap, rather than suffering in silence and alone.

    And clearly I'm here and part of the crappy club. Jack has lymphoma.
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    I'm so sorry to hear about Jack

    I'm not dealing with it currently, but I recently lost two dogs to cancer (osteosarcoma and splenic hemangiosarcoma) within a year of one another. I could definitely have used a thread like this then, so I'm glad you've started one to allow people to support each other now.

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    I'm sorry about Jack.

    Porsche has lymphoma too. We are putting her down on monday. ;_;

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    Re: Cancer Support?

    Quote Originally Posted by CptJack View Post
    It's come to my attention that there are quite a few dogs on the board right now with cancer of various sorts.

    I don't want this to be a medical thread (that will get us shut down), but I figure we can all use someone to talk to about this crap, rather than suffering in silence and alone.

    And clearly I'm here and part of the crappy club. Jack has lymphoma.
    I've said this on FB, but I'll say it again here, I'm so very sorry to hear about Jack. I think a support thread is a great idea, and even if it is medical in nature, the only way it would get shut down is if it's used to request medical advice in place of veterinary care, which I know none of the people in this forum who have dogs suffering from cancer would do. I'd be more than happy to move it to the health forum and make it a sticky if you would like.

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    I'm sorry about Jack.

    Porsche has lymphoma too. We are putting her down on monday. ;_;

    I'm so very sorry to hear this as well. (((hugs)))
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    Thanks, guys. I hope it helps some people (me included, but not just me).

    Kuma's Mom, it would be great if you could move it and make it a sticky, and I am so sorry to hear about Porche. I hope this weekend is as kind to you both as it can be and my love and thoughts will be with you on Monday.

    Jack, right now, is pretty okay. I know it won't last, but I'm so grateful for the time we have now. He is being throughly, intensely, spoiled rotten. We're taking him to a couple of dog things this weekend where I know EVERYONE will give him absolutely all the love and he'll thoroughly enjoy himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alla View Post
    I'm sorry about Jack.

    Porsche has lymphoma too. We are putting her down on monday. ;_;
    Oh, Alla, I didn't realize it was Monday. Hope this weekend is filled with everything both of you love. You'll be in my thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by CptJack View Post
    Jack, right now, is pretty okay. I know it won't last, but I'm so grateful for the time we have now. He is being throughly, intensely, spoiled rotten. We're taking him to a couple of dog things this weekend where I know EVERYONE will give him absolutely all the love and he'll thoroughly enjoy himself.
    Give Jack lots of love from me. He's such a sweet boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alla View Post
    I'm sorry about Jack.

    Porsche has lymphoma too. We are putting her down on monday. ;_;
    So sorry to hear that Alla

    The one thing I made sure I did with Loki before putting him to rest was getting a footprint of his. Bought some black non-toxic washable paint and a big brush, then laid big sheets of paper everywhere, painted his foot and put it down and let him walk around. Rinse and repeat until I got a good one. It's hard to get a good print unless they're putting their weight on it naturally.

    I'll be turning that paw print into a tattoo someday, so I'm very glad I have it.

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    So sorry about Jack and Porsche! Cancer just sucks.

    My Maya has lymphoma, diagnosed the day after Thanksgiving...two weeks after she had her first ever dose of Nexgard. I was looking at her the night before Thanksgiving and she was just giving me this look and I went over to her and as petting her and felt her lymph nodes. I knew in my heart right then it was cancer. All her nodes are involved. I walked around in a fog for about 2 weeks. We have made it 3 months now though but dang such an emotional roller coaster ride that you so want off of but you don't want off at the same time because getting off means the end. Two weeks ago I didn't think she would be here any more but man she must be fighting this. I keep thinking maybe she can but I know that isn't reality. She is my heart and I am so devastated by this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiraeth View Post
    The one thing I made sure I did with Loki before putting him to rest was getting a footprint of his. Bought some black non-toxic washable paint and a big brush, then laid big sheets of paper everywhere, painted his foot and put it down and let him walk around. Rinse and repeat until I got a good one. It's hard to get a good print unless they're putting their weight on it naturally.

    I'll be turning that paw print into a tattoo someday, so I'm very glad I have it.
    That is a really good idea.

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    I am so, so sorry that you guys are going through this. My heart breaks for you.

    In the final weeks of my dog Sage's life, I took her to the McDonald's drive-through and got her small, unsalted French fries, a plan hamburger, and a small ice cream cone. Every day. Such a fond memory. The day she wouldn't walk to the car for our trip, I knew it was time.

    Sure thinking of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsule View Post
    That is a really good idea.
    Oh, another thing I did that I'm happy about is I took a few clippings of Loki's fur. I bought a locket and put his fur in it. I wear it every day.

    That's the kind of stuff that's hard to think about when you're in the moment and so very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptJack View Post
    Thanks, guys. I hope it helps some people (me included, but not just me).

    Kuma's Mom, it would be great if you could move it and make it a sticky, and I am so sorry to hear about Porche. I hope this weekend is as kind to you both as it can be and my love and thoughts will be with you on Monday.

    Jack, right now, is pretty okay. I know it won't last, but I'm so grateful for the time we have now. He is being throughly, intensely, spoiled rotten. We're taking him to a couple of dog things this weekend where I know EVERYONE will give him absolutely all the love and he'll thoroughly enjoy himself.
    Done and done. I'm so sorry you all are going through this, and I really hope having a support thread like this helps you.

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    Re: Cancer Support?

    Definitely a thoughtful and helpful thread.
    I've also had the heartbreak of losing two to cancer
    within 6 months of each other.

    In the winter, I take a close up of their paw prints while
    walking in snow. It shows the claw marks quite clearly.

    I have the pictures framed.

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    Jack had an appointment this morning to Discuss Things, had a happy meal for lunch, then hung out at lure coursing, then went to Petsmart and got a toy to shred and a chew. REALLY good day for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptJack View Post


    Jack had an appointment this morning to Discuss Things, had a happy meal for lunch, then hung out at lure coursing, then went to Petsmart and got a toy to shred and a chew. REALLY good day for him.
    So cute, glad he had a good day. I am so torn even though we are nearing the end and I want to give Maya whatever she wants to eat (she is starving all the time, thanks to the prednisone) I haven't been because everything says carbs feed cancer so she gets boiled chicken for treats. She likes it but it has been 3+ months of chicken. I admit to giving her a bit of pizza crust here and there but I want to make her pancakes at some point before she goes, they are one of her favorite things, but if it could make her be here longer to not give her carbs then I want to do that. Ugh!

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    So cute, glad he had a good day. I am so torn even though we are nearing the end and I want to give Maya whatever she wants to eat (she is starving all the time, thanks to the prednisone) I haven't been because everything says carbs feed cancer so she gets boiled chicken for treats. She likes it but it has been 3+ months of chicken. I admit to giving her a bit of pizza crust here and there but I want to make her pancakes at some point before she goes, they are one of her favorite things, but if it could make her be here longer to not give her carbs then I want to do that. Ugh!
    I really think it's just personal and that probably no matter what you do you're going to be conflicted and feel guilty and generally crappy. Because it's a really crappy situation.

    I also feel like I'm living with a time bomb. And feeling that way makes me feel, you guessed it, guilty.

    That said, he's gained 2lbs, and he's not even on pred yet. He's just being given whatever he wants.
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    I also want to say that having recently experienced a few vets for comparison, at this point if I had the choice between state of the art, highly competent, highly educated, but also high-volume vet hospitals, and one person who may not have all the equipment in the world, listens to me, takes me seriously, works with me, and is willing to investigate, research and say 'I don't know, but I'll find out', ...

    Well, I'll take vet 2. Nothing wrong with 1, but my comfort is with the local person.

    Every time.

    That is one thing I have seriously, seriously, come to appreciate over the last little bit. (he got a Dx Monday, but we've had Trouble since mid January).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptJack View Post
    I also want to say that having recently experienced a few vets for comparison, at this point if I had the choice between state of the art, highly competent, highly educated, but also high-volume vet hospitals, and one person who may not have all the equipment in the world, listens to me, takes me seriously, works with me, and is willing to investigate, research and say 'I don't know, but I'll find out', ...

    Well, I'll take vet 2. Nothing wrong with 1, but my comfort is with the local person.

    Every time.

    That is one thing I have seriously, seriously, come to appreciate over the last little bit. (he got a Dx Monday, but we've had Trouble since mid January).
    Yeah I would go with that one too. In my case I had no one offering suggestions. My old vet of 10yrs had left a year before Maya got cancer. I switched to a new vet and while he new what he was doing he wasn't at all like my old vet. When he called with the results of the aspirate of the lymph node he pretty much said you can do chemo which you will need to see an oncologist for (3 hours away) or you can do pred. You get longer with chemo but it will come back. I did a lot of research on my own and did change vets. My old vet that left thought I should have checked into clinical trials at the uw 3 hours away but with my job if I want to get paid I cannot take off during the week days and the number of visits required wasn't doable . So spending thousands with an oncologist and making less money really wasn't an option for us. Yes I feel guilty all the time...it just sucks no matter what you do. Even some of those that have done chemo have said they wouldn't do it again. I am lucky though that she is still here and in good spirits and eating well yet. She is slowing down though, can see that easily. Yes you just have to do what is right for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsule View Post
    Yeah I would go with that one too. In my case I had no one offering suggestions. My old vet of 10yrs had left a year before Maya got cancer. I switched to a new vet and while he new what he was doing he wasn't at all like my old vet. When he called with the results of the aspirate of the lymph node he pretty much said you can do chemo which you will need to see an oncologist for (3 hours away) or you can do pred. You get longer with chemo but it will come back. I did a lot of research on my own and did change vets. My old vet that left thought I should have checked into clinical trials at the uw 3 hours away but with my job if I want to get paid I cannot take off during the week days and the number of visits required wasn't doable . So spending thousands with an oncologist and making less money really wasn't an option for us. Yes I feel guilty all the time...it just sucks no matter what you do. Even some of those that have done chemo have said they wouldn't do it again. I am lucky though that she is still here and in good spirits and eating well yet. She is slowing down though, can see that easily. Yes you just have to do what is right for you.
    The original options I was given were that - pred or multi-agent chemo that would have taken *time* we can't afford, even if we didn't have a trip (and we do). We're trying something middle of the road, thanks to a vet willing to indulge me I guess and that's single agent chemo every 3 weeks, locally - and pred. If he tolerates it well, awesome. We get more time. If he doesn't, we stop. I want to try SOMETHING but reality is limiting and my priority is a happy dog for as long as I can have him. I'd rather have less time than have him feel horrible longer.

    It still just all sucks and is so complicated and impossible, though. I know danged well I neither want nor am able to do 21 weeks of weekly chemo, hours away from home, for a condition that is ultimately terminal. He would hate it. I would hate it. We'd be unemployed. AND YET.

    Just all the love to you and Maya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptJack View Post
    The original options I was given were that - pred or multi-agent chemo that would have taken *time* we can't afford, even if we didn't have a trip (and we do). We're trying something middle of the road, thanks to a vet willing to indulge me I guess and that's single agent chemo every 3 weeks, locally - and pred. If he tolerates it well, awesome. We get more time. If he doesn't, we stop. I want to try SOMETHING but reality is limiting and my priority is a happy dog for as long as I can have him. I'd rather have less time than have him feel horrible longer.

    It still just all sucks and is so complicated and impossible, though. I know danged well I neither want nor am able to do 21 weeks of weekly chemo, hours away from home, for a condition that is ultimately terminal. He would hate it. I would hate it. We'd be unemployed. AND YET.

    Just all the love to you and Maya.
    That is awesome that your vet offered that and that you can try that. Anything we would have been able to try would have required travel to see an oncologist to detemine type and staging and I didn't realize at the time there were other types of chemo other than the weekly ones which required vet visits. Seriously the vet I had pretty much wrote Maya off, never called after putting her on pred to see if she was doing ok on it or not. I will not go back to see him. So once we were on pred for a bit it was too late to go back and try chemo. Just trying everything we can to keep her here and comfortable.

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