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    Hello. We have been staying at a hotel for awhile while we are moving. In the last 2 days we have found 3 ticks. One was crawling on Brady, we found one in the bed (the dogs sleep in the bed with us), and one that had attached to Molly. I removed it and put it in a bottle and dated it. A web site I found on how to remove it said to keep it and date it incase the dog showed any signs of illness. I'm not sure what info they can get from a dead tick, but I kept it. I use Frontline plus on them and they get it the first of the month, so it has only been 11 days since they were dosed. I bought some Harts flee and tick spray tonight and put alittle on them to try and kill any more they pick up. There aren't any woods around, but the hotel is landscaped with many trees and bushes and grass. I can't do much about the hotel but what recomendations do ya'll have about protecting the dogs/us. Also we are not moving into our new house for a couple of weeks, but I will be there working on it until the movers come at the end of the month. What have any of you tried that worked to keep flees and ticks out of your yards. We have grass but no trees or plants/shrubs in the back yard. I want the most effective thing that won't hurt the dogs. I can also treat the yard and it will be a couple of weeks before they are there so if there is something that will kill any flees and ticks and then will be safe for the dogs a week or so later that would be fine. Also, what would be a good continual prevention after the dogs move in? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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    I tried frontline on Eevee and it had absolutely no affect. Have you tried K9 Advantix? I tried that oen next and it had awesome results. Also, I stay away from anything Hartz makes, as a lot of pets have had bad reactions to it, and some have even died.
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    I have not tried the K9 Avantix. I must say that with frontline I have almost never seen a flea. In 8 months no fleas at all, but this tick did not die before attaching so I don't know how well it works for ticks. There is another thread on here warning about avantix and some dogs having a bad reaction to it. I don't know if that's true or not. I was going to try it just because it's a little bit cheeper and is suposed to repel more bugs also, then I read about it killing some dogs. I don't know what to think.
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    Almost every flea product that is a pesticide is going to cause a reaction in some dogs (I've heard the same about Bio-Spot, and both Frontline and Advantage). And especially if they're not used correctly. Eevee had no problems with Advantix so it worked for us.
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    OK, here is the skinny. When you use frontline PLUS, do not apply it 2 days/before or after bathing, as it decreases the effectiveness. The tick may have attached before you applied it, and even it it gets killed, it won't detach. If your dog had ticks crawling, but not attached, this doesn't mean it isnt working, it means the medicine hadn't had a chance to kill it yet, so it was probably just picked up that day. Scotts makes a pesticide you can spray on your lawn/ shrubs to kill ticks, but it is sloww, because of the ticks' reproductive cycle. If ticks are thick (as they are here) I reapply every three weeks. Make SURE you apply it at the skin, not on the top of the fur.
    Just a note of caution, do not use frontline on collie breeds. The illness they are talking about is Lyme, and the best preventative for that is vaccination. If your dog has never been vx'ed for Lyme He will be injected, then a booster in 2-3 weeks. yearly after that.
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!
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    I should add that it is just like mosquito repellent, they may land on you but not bite you. You may still SEE ticks, but they won't bite your pet.
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!
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    I use revolution, but there aren't many ticks or anything where i live. Revolution doesn't have permethrin in it and people are recommending that over the stuff that does have permethrin, i.e. bio-spot, advantix, frontline.
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    Frontline Plus has worked best for us for ticks, while Advanix has not. Perhaps it varies from dog to dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdawgs
    Just a note of caution, do not use frontline on collie breeds.
    Just curious- why? Have never heard this before.
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    I have never heard that either. Why should you not use frontline on collie breeds?
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    thank you. I am careful not to bath them close to application of the frontline. I also think that it had just attached within a day or so. We check them out pretty regularly and where it was attached we would have seen it with her daily belly rubbin. I'm not sure if it was dead before or after I removed it. It did seem to come all the way out and not break off.
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    Maybe different products affect different dogs, because like cheetah said, about Hartz u know, well i just wanted to try it,{on my cat} and it worked, she didnt seem to have any problems and in fact, we just took her to the vet for a check up yesterday and shes fine, and we also buy frontline it seems to work on my dogs ive had, but of course 4 a little extra help, we put organice flea medicine for the yard to {just in case}
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    There is a neurotransmitter that doesn't function properly in collie breeds. It allows for a type of malabsorption of certain medications. It has produced a sensitivity to ivermectin, the main ingredient in Heartguard. This genetic defect is the reason why the regular protocol treatment for a wide range of problems will either kill a collie or make them very sick.

    We have seen some issues with revolution, so we don't carry it.

    I should have also mentioned that other tick borne diseases are tick fever and rocky mountain spotted fever.
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    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!
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    Has anyone ever used Garlic oil. I saw an ad that said it kept mosquitos and ticks away and is safe for people and pets. Anyone know anything about it?
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    sorry, I don't
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!
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