Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy
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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    Dogs aren't carnivores, though.

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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    am so out of my league here... are they taking into account any other (maybe influences) Chemicals, pesticides, poisons, that are commonly used long term monthly applications?

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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    Quote Originally Posted by parus View Post
    Dogs aren't carnivores, though.
    I disagree.. Everything from their dentition to their digestive tract tells me what it is they are designed to eat.

    Dogs thrive on eating nothing but meat, bones and organs. No veg/grains/plant matter. If they were omnivours this wouldn't be the case. Sure they will eat greens/grains, but this doesn't mean they need them to live/thrive/sustain.
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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    Your disagreement aside, dogs can and do get a significant portion of their calories and nutrition from sources other than meat, which makes them omnivorous. They were quite literally "designed" to eat our leftovers and garbage. Being omnivorous doesn't mean that meat isn't a preferable food source, but conversely, meat being a preferable food source doesn't make them true carnivores.

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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    Well now I'm concerned. I feed three different food to my guys (Fromms Classic, Wellness Health and Zignature) but my 14 year old Chocolate Lab Moose has been eating turkey Zignature for years now and has been doing so so well on it. I'm reluctant to take him off at this point.....

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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    Quote Originally Posted by christine_72 View Post
    I disagree.. Everything from their dentition to their digestive tract tells me what it is they are designed to eat.

    Dogs thrive on eating nothing but meat, bones and organs. No veg/grains/plant matter. If they were omnivours this wouldn't be the case. Sure they will eat greens/grains, but this doesn't mean they need them to live/thrive/sustain.
    Interesting study on canine domestication.... one of the very early changes in the journey from wolf to dog was the increased ability to digest carbohydrates. https://www.google.com/http://www.sc...-domestication


    Quote Originally Posted by emdh View Post
    Well now I'm concerned. I feed three different food to my guys (Fromms Classic, Wellness Health and Zignature) but my 14 year old Chocolate Lab Moose has been eating turkey Zignature for years now and has been doing so so well on it. I'm reluctant to take him off at this point.....
    Then don't, unless you have reason to believe that he has diet related DCM. Has he had abnormal holters and echoes?
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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    Quote Originally Posted by emdh View Post
    Well now I'm concerned. I feed three different food to my guys (Fromms Classic, Wellness Health and Zignature) but my 14 year old Chocolate Lab Moose has been eating turkey Zignature for years now and has been doing so so well on it. I'm reluctant to take him off at this point.....
    I would get his blood tested and heart checked for peace of mind. If all checks out fine I would not bother switching. At 14, it is unlikely the food would cause issues later down the road if he has been eating it for years and is in good health. At that age I am just happy to have a food the dog likes and does well on.

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    Re: Itís Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    I agree. I would also worry about changing his diet at this late stage. There's no reason to suspect heart issues.

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