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    I am trying to build up a supply and figure out exactly what to feed. I picked up some pork neck bones with meat on them. Is that okay?
    All the pork neck bones I have seen are exactly that. Lotsa bone and little meat. I would feed some boneless meals just before or just after a meal of pork necks.

    Also my neighbor said he would save me any waist muscle meat that they won't eat from the dear they get. . . for example the areas around where the bullet goes in. Is that okay?
    I't great. Anything from the dear except blatter and intestines is some of the best food you can feed. Even the head is great.

    I also picked up some fryer chickens, chicken necks, and ground beef. I am going to start with the chicken necks and then work from there.
    The fryers are great, necks only so-so depending on the size of your dog. Ground beef is good too. It would be good to feed with the pork necks or the meal before or after.

    Checkout http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm. It will give you guidance on how to begin a raw diet. If you have questions after reading it, please ask. You need to feed chicken only for a couple of weeks. THen add something else, I suggest pork for a week, then somehting else the next week. Hopefully the page will explain it to you.

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    My local meat market can get me chicken necks and backs mixed for 79cents a pound or turkey necks for 89 cents a pound for 40 lbs. My dogs are both about 50 lbs. Do you suggest one or the other or neither. Would it be better sticking to whole fryers and quarters. I read so much about necks and backs being great when I started reading but now I am reading different things. Thanks for all your help. It has been wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmommyheaven View Post
    My local meat market can get me chicken necks and backs mixed for 79cents a pound or turkey necks for 89 cents a pound for 40 lbs. My dogs are both about 50 lbs. Do you suggest one or the other or neither. Would it be better sticking to whole fryers and quarters. I read so much about necks and backs being great when I started reading but now I am reading different things. Thanks for all your help. It has been wonderful.
    Some places sell backs and necks still attached to each other. Those are good. Some places will habe backs and necks in the same box but seperated. The probem with chicken necks is that for dogs your size, they are much too small. They can be swallowed whole and become a choking hazzard. For my Great Danes, the swallow pieces much larger than a chicken neck regularly but they won't chew chicken necks. BTW: I pay 13.5 cents a pound for chicken backs.

    Turkey necks would make a good size meal for your dogs. They would be good. I get m ine for anywhere between 50 and 80 cents a pound. The price varies greatly throughout the year.

    Whole birds and quarters are also good for your dogs.

    The only thing you are asking about that I don't like are chicken necks. If you have cats, you could feed the necks to them.

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    Okay before anyone starts this Raw food diet you need to research your dogs diet and nutrition to avoid health issues resulting from improper nutrition needs. Also speak to your vet to see what they recommend.

    For Example Read this article on Golden Retriever Diets and Nutrition. : http://home.att.net/~wdcusick/GoldenRetriever.html
    Last edited by wrigleyroo; 10-19-2008 at 08:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrigleyroo View Post
    Okay before anyone starts this Raw food diet you need to research your dogs diet and nutrition to avoid health issues resulting from improper nutrition needs. Also speak to your vet to see what they recommend.
    That's what everyone is doing - that's the point of this and many other 'raw' threads. I like my vet - but he sells Medi-Cal and suggests I feed it to Molly. I've converted to raw and I'm going to start questioning my vet regarding all the chemicals being pumped into her with all the immunizations and deworming.

    For Example Read this article on Golden Retriever Diets and Nutrition.

    Is this a sales pitch?
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    Sales pitch? No. My friends website where you can see what is recommended to feed a certain breed. I am not trying to sell anything here...

    What I am really trying to say that didn't come out very well in my last post is that majority dogs can handle certain foods, but there are high maintenance breeds out there that are sensitive to certain foods, proteins, etc.

    Like Labradors: It is recommended to not feed your lab Beef as it was not in its natural diet.

    My neighbor has a poodle and started feeding the same raw diet as her next door neighbor with a malamute and he got horrible skin issues because she wasn't adjusting the diet to her dogs certain food needs.

    So long story short I just want people to know that you should be careful when preparing the menu for your dog, don't just feed what everyone else is feeding.
    Last edited by wrigleyroo; 10-19-2008 at 09:02 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrigleyroo View Post
    Sales pitch? No. My friends website where you can see what is recommended to feed a certain breed. I am not trying to sell anything here...

    What I am really trying to say that didn't come out very well in my last post is that majority dogs can handle certain foods, but there are high maintenance breeds out there that are sensitive to certain foods, proteins, etc.

    Like Labradors: It is recommended to not feed your lab Beef as it was not in its natural diet.

    My neighbor has a poodle and started feeding the same raw diet as her next door neighbor with a malamute and he got horrible skin issues because she wasn't adjusting the diet to her dogs certain food needs.

    So long story short I just want people to know that you should be careful when preparing the menu for your dog, don't just feed what everyone else is feeding.

    There is very little actual information on that website other than "your friend" peddling his book and diet plan......

    BTW.. I feed my Lab beef a couple times a week and he looks GREAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrigleyroo View Post
    Okay before anyone starts this Raw food diet you need to research your dogs diet and nutrition to avoid health issues resulting from improper nutrition needs. Also speak to your vet to see what they recommend.
    Ohhhhhhh, not Bill Cusick. Is he still pushing that silly breed specific diet garbage? And yes his page is nothing but an advertisement for his useless fictional book. You can't take anything he says seriously.

    There is no breed specific dietary need. It's merely a ploy to sell books and of course his $100 recipes. LOL

    Bill also put out web pages that tried to scare people away from raw diets. He presented a number of "facts" that were all baseless fiction. For example, one of these "facts" was that dogs can't digest bones. I and many thousands of others have been feeding dogs bones every day for years. The bones didn't come out in their stools, so where did they go if they were not digsted? Are they still in the dogs? The dogs would have to be as big as a full size car or bigger if they are still in there.

    THis is not a person who should be listened to. Oh and there are probably not 10 vets in the country who can give good dietary advice about dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrigleyroo View Post
    Sales pitch? No. My friends website where you can see what is recommended to feed a certain breed. I am not trying to sell anything here...

    What I am really trying to say that didn't come out very well in my last post is that majority dogs can handle certain foods, but there are high maintenance breeds out there that are sensitive to certain foods, proteins, etc.

    Like Labradors: It is recommended to not feed your lab Beef as it was not in its natural diet.

    My neighbor has a poodle and started feeding the same raw diet as her next door neighbor with a malamute and he got horrible skin issues because she wasn't adjusting the diet to her dogs certain food needs.

    So long story short I just want people to know that you should be careful when preparing the menu for your dog, don't just feed what everyone else is feeding.
    What are mutts supposed to eat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Dog View Post
    What are mutts supposed to eat?
    I bet his friend will sell you a diet specifically designed with mutts in mind for a mere 100 bucks.

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    okay guys.. enough I made a mistake by posting something that was stupid so please stop feeding me to the wolves. I apologize and take back what I posted. IGNORE IT.
    Just please stop. I am sorry for posting false information. I am new to the raw diet and my friend referred the site and honestly I didn't read the whole thing I just looked at the suggestions. MY BAD... I AM SORRY JUST DROP IT.

    Thank you.

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    Hey no harm done. Welcome to the forum. I just started feeding raw a couple of weeks ago after months of reading the info provided on the forum. Lots of good people who want to make sure the info is correct and therefor are quick to respond when they see inaccurate info being spread. Nothing personal. We all make mistakes - you realized it and corrected - that says a lot about you in my opinion. Stick around.

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    Thank you C.D That makes me feel better about my error.


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    Re: Raw Feeders: Please post typical weekly menu

    I feed my masstiff pup this a couple times a week


    Beef and Rice Moochies


    This is a nutritious treat for your puppy.

    Ingredients

    2 jars of Gerber beef and vegetable baby food

    5 cups flour, all-purpose

    2-cups whole-wheat flour

    2-cups rice

    2 packages unflavored gelatin

    2 whole eggs

    4 tablespoons vegetable oil

    2 cups powdered milk

    2-packages yeast

    1/2 cup warm water

    2 beef bouillon cube

    Recipe

    Dissolve yeast in warm water.

    Combine all dry ingredients in large bowl.

    Add yeast, egg, oil, baby food and dissolved beef bouillon.

    Mix well.

    Mixture will be very dry, knead with hands until it forms a ball. Roll out on floured surface to 1/4 inch thickness.

    Use cookie cutters to cut shapes.

    Bake on non-greased cookie sheet 30 minutes at 300 degrees.





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    I use the recipes from Dr. Pitcairn's book, (NOT a plug, just recommended to me by by clinical nutritionist, who uses it for his two collies)
    SO much easier than trying to figure out how much of this/that. Right now, my four schnauzers are enjoying a dog loaf made of ground chuck, boneless beef, milk, eggs, veggies (zucchini, yellow summer squash and carrots were on hand), whole wheat bread, soy sauce
    and supplements (calcium, vitamin E, and healthy powder).
    We use the healthy powder supplement, also from his book, which has brewer's yeast, lecithin, kelp and other things I can't remember right now.
    It takes a bit of time once a week to make up this concoction, but is well worth it.
    They also get beef liver when I can find it, usually from a butcher/meat packer, which goes into their daily food, and chicken wings, & other bones.
    Nothing cooked!
    Two of our dogs are older, 10 & 12, and were fed commercial dog food until a few months ago, when we got the two pups. The older ones have lost quite a few teeth. We find that they can handle chicken wings best, or backs, but all of them love the big beef rib and knuckle bones. They get these bony treats 2 or 3 times a week.

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    we're having some difficulties in sourcing here in the US---we were able to buy raw food for the dogs in pet stores in the UK, but its not so easy here! this is what we're feeding at the moment:

    our 13y old with chronic kidney failure gets 3 parts veggies/fruit (anything on the clearance table really) to one part protein plus chicken necks 1-3 times a week; he has been raw fed for 8 years

    our younger girl gets exclusively RMB and meat/fish; she has been raw fed since 8 weeks old

    --chicken gizzards
    --chicken necks
    --canned sardines
    --eggs
    --ground turkey
    --ground beef
    --'kennel mix' from our local butcher: a very rich mix of a variety of meats and organs, off-cuts from the primary cuts of meat...can't give them much of this because it gives them the runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anandel View Post
    we're having some difficulties in sourcing here in the US---we were able to buy raw food for the dogs in pet stores in the UK, but its not so easy here! this is what we're feeding at the moment:
    Where are you looking for your food? Have you checked out Yahoo's raw feeding groups as well as their carnivore feed supplier list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxMeIn21 View Post
    Where are you looking for your food? Have you checked out Yahoo's raw feeding groups as well as their carnivore feed supplier list?
    i confess i haven't checked them out yet (since we moved from the UK i've been dealing with alot of health problems)...mostly we've tried places near home (grocery stores, butchers, pet stores)

    do you have any links or any in particular i should look for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anandel View Post
    i confess i haven't checked them out yet (since we moved from the UK i've been dealing with alot of health problems)...mostly we've tried places near home (grocery stores, butchers, pet stores)

    do you have any links or any in particular i should look for?
    Here you go:

    http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/c...feed-supplier/

    There is a database full of raw food supplier throughout the US.

    And here's another good raw feeding resource:

    http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/r...guid=274985796
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    thanks very much for the info! my memberships are pending

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