Feeding Raw - Where to Start?
Page 5 of 18 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast
Results 81 to 100 of 344

Thread: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

  1. #81
    Senior Member abi88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    SKC, Wa, USA
    Posts
    395

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by mishypuppy View Post
    I have been reading and reading and have seen loads of pages on raw feeding. I read somewhere that if i buy fresh meats that it is important to freeze for three days before feeding. If i bought fresh chicken, do i really need to freeze it before serving? I have tried to find this answer, but am getting nowhere.

    I have four dogs ranging from 3 to 6 years, all healthy.

    Thanks so much!
    No it is not if you are getting human grade. I feed fresh from the source all the time!
    Im Abi, the VERY PROUD FurMommi to"The Boys", Rhett(2011) and Leo(2007), Breed: Border Collie and Brody(2010), Breed: Pug/x.


    Border Collie: When in doubt, do without!! There are far too many BCs looking for new homes because someone THOUGHT they were the right breed!

  2. Remove Advertisements
    DogForums.com
    Advertisements
     

  3. #82
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Grand Prairie, Texas
    Posts
    3

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Oh, good news! Thanks so much!

  4. #83
    Senior Member abi88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    SKC, Wa, USA
    Posts
    395

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by mishypuppy View Post
    Oh, good news! Thanks so much!
    No problem!

    For us in the NW, we DO have to freeze any fresh fish, that is caught up here, for at least 2 weeks-I prefer the thought of a month at least....but that is because of the things that effect fish up here in the PNW!
    Im Abi, the VERY PROUD FurMommi to"The Boys", Rhett(2011) and Leo(2007), Breed: Border Collie and Brody(2010), Breed: Pug/x.


    Border Collie: When in doubt, do without!! There are far too many BCs looking for new homes because someone THOUGHT they were the right breed!

  5. Remove Advertisements
    DogForums.com
    Advertisements
     

  6. #84
    Senior Member kelii36's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    124

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    I just started feeding my puppy raw, and am having a hard time figuring out how much to feed. He's going to be about 60 pounds when he's grown up. I don't have a scale yet, so how many chicken legs/thighs and organ meat should he be getting a day?

  7. #85
    Senior Member abi88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    SKC, Wa, USA
    Posts
    395

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by kelii36 View Post
    I just started feeding my puppy raw, and am having a hard time figuring out how much to feed. He's going to be about 60 pounds when he's grown up. I don't have a scale yet, so how many chicken legs/thighs and organ meat should he be getting a day?
    First off YAY for starting!!.

    However, don't start adding organs till your AT LEAST 4 weeks into it, our you run a huge risk of having "cannon butt"!! (and you will SLOWLY add organs even then, but right now don't even worry about them!)
    And he should get between 2 and 4% of his adult body weight, (ime start him off at 3% and then adjust up of down as he needs!)The chickens and quarters I get up here generally a leg quarter is about 1lbs.

    (oh and if you still happen to have the enhanced stuff, IMO rince it off before giving to him)

    And then as you watch his poops, if they are crumbly cut back the amount of bone an if it is super loose take the skin off for a couple days!
    Last edited by abi88; 07-09-2011 at 10:42 PM.
    Im Abi, the VERY PROUD FurMommi to"The Boys", Rhett(2011) and Leo(2007), Breed: Border Collie and Brody(2010), Breed: Pug/x.


    Border Collie: When in doubt, do without!! There are far too many BCs looking for new homes because someone THOUGHT they were the right breed!

  8. #86
    Senior Member Kathyy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    6,226

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    An easy to read digital scale is a fun kitchen tool to have around, look around for one. I was surprised that my precisely measured macaroni and cheese wasn't all that horrible a meal for instance and that Max loses 4-8 grams of fur when he gets a good grooming.

    In the meanwhile you could look at the total weight of the package of chicken bits, count up the bits within and that would be approximately the size of one of the bits. As in you bought a pack of chicken thighs weighing 7 pounds and there are 12 thighs in the pack. Each thigh would be nearly .6 of a pound or 9.3 ounces.

    A 60 pound adult dog would start raw with 2% which is 1.2 pounds or 19 ounces a day total. In time, if dog gets fluffy - feed less, if dog gets ribby - feed more.

    Bony chicken until poop is nice so the gut is used to the new diet! Take off the skin for the first couple meals just in case and don't over feed!

  9. #87
    Senior Member mom24doggies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    392

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    I would like to know if I'm giving Trev enough variety in his diet. He eats chicken (usually drumsticks, thighs, and wings), pork (ground or shoulder, along with chopped neck bones for recreational chewing.), beef (ground, but not as often, it's expensive!), ground turkey (sometimes) and canned mackerel (doesn't like raw fish, for some reason.). For his liver/organs he gets chicken liver/kidney, tripe, and beef liver. I supplement his food with calcium if he's eating mostly ground meat that meal, vitamin C for his flat feet, and a coat supplement. He also gets some vegetables/fruit and occasionally some rice.

    I don't think I missed anything! Does that sound varied enough? TIA!

  10. #88
    Senior Member abi88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    SKC, Wa, USA
    Posts
    395

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by mom24doggies View Post
    I would like to know if I'm giving Trev enough variety in his diet. He eats chicken (usually drumsticks, thighs, and wings), pork (ground or shoulder, along with chopped neck bones for recreational chewing.), beef (ground, but not as often, it's expensive!), ground turkey (sometimes) and canned mackerel (doesn't like raw fish, for some reason.). For his liver/organs he gets chicken liver/kidney, tripe, and beef liver. I supplement his food with calcium if he's eating mostly ground meat that meal, vitamin C for his flat feet, and a coat supplement. He also gets some vegetables/fruit and occasionally some rice.

    I don't think I missed anything! Does that sound varied enough? TIA!
    Why not do real meat and ditch the ground? I don't like doing ground as it doesn't allow for the ripping and tearing, and as you stated you tend to need to add bone supplements. I can get cheaper cuts of meat then I can ground! Also, IMO, ditch the rice.

    Oh and BTW, Tripe is fed as meat not organs(same as heart!)
    Im Abi, the VERY PROUD FurMommi to"The Boys", Rhett(2011) and Leo(2007), Breed: Border Collie and Brody(2010), Breed: Pug/x.


    Border Collie: When in doubt, do without!! There are far too many BCs looking for new homes because someone THOUGHT they were the right breed!

  11. #89
    Senior Member mom24doggies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    392

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by abi88 View Post
    Why not do real meat and ditch the ground? I don't like doing ground as it doesn't allow for the ripping and tearing, and as you stated you tend to need to add bone supplements. I can get cheaper cuts of meat then I can ground! Also, IMO, ditch the rice.

    Oh and BTW, Tripe is fed as meat not organs(same as heart!)
    Oh, I didn't know that about the tripe; thanks for letting me know. I feed him some ground meat because he isn't strong enough to crunch the bones of beef/pork, (sometimes the chicken bones take him awhile) but I want him to be able to eat those meats. Same with the turkey, I'm pretty sure he could eat turkey necks, but can't find them. Maybe once he matures a bit more (he's a 7.5 mo miniature poodle) he'll be able to handle pork/beef bones?
    Here where I am, ground is much cheaper than either pork/beef with bone in. I can usually get ground for at/slightly below $1/lb, while when they have bone in it's closer to $2. As for the rice, he doesn't get that often, maybe 2 or 3 times a month, but I can drop it all together, he just seems to like it. Thanks for your help!

  12. #90
    Senior Member MagicRe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    1,239

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by abi88 View Post
    Why not do real meat and ditch the ground? I don't like doing ground as it doesn't allow for the ripping and tearing, and as you stated you tend to need to add bone supplements. I can get cheaper cuts of meat then I can ground! Also, IMO, ditch the rice.

    Oh and BTW, Tripe is fed as meat not organs(same as heart!)
    i was gonna say the same thing

    if this is a new dog starting on raw, then chicken bones are the softest...try a drumstick and see what happens....

  13. #91
    Senior Member abi88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    SKC, Wa, USA
    Posts
    395

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by mom24doggies View Post
    Oh, I didn't know that about the tripe; thanks for letting me know. I feed him some ground meat because he isn't strong enough to crunch the bones of beef/pork, (sometimes the chicken bones take him awhile) but I want him to be able to eat those meats. Same with the turkey, I'm pretty sure he could eat turkey necks, but can't find them. Maybe once he matures a bit more (he's a 7.5 mo miniature poodle) he'll be able to handle pork/beef bones?
    Here where I am, ground is much cheaper than either pork/beef with bone in. I can usually get ground for at/slightly below $1/lb, while when they have bone in it's closer to $2. As for the rice, he doesn't get that often, maybe 2 or 3 times a month, but I can drop it all together, he just seems to like it. Thanks for your help!
    No problem about the tripe, I didnt know it either until I looked into it a little more! (My boys do love it though!)

    That is fine that he isnt strong enough to crunch/eat the bone, but I would still be giving him the meat for the jaw strengthening and for the fact that it gives him something more to do! I would doubt that he will ever be able to eat most of the lager prey's bones...but just the gnawing on and working at is good for them!

    That stinks about the prices! Have you looked into co-ops in your area? Farmers/ranchers/hunters? Posted wanted adds on craigslist/kijiji/feecycle? (Ive gotten over 300lbs of free meat in the past month from my looking for adds...I would be happy to share my wording, just PM me!)

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicRe View Post
    i was gonna say the same thing

    if this is a new dog starting on raw, then chicken bones are the softest...try a drumstick and see what happens....

    Well you(and a few others) HAVE taught me well!!
    Last edited by abi88; 07-11-2011 at 03:58 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    Im Abi, the VERY PROUD FurMommi to"The Boys", Rhett(2011) and Leo(2007), Breed: Border Collie and Brody(2010), Breed: Pug/x.


    Border Collie: When in doubt, do without!! There are far too many BCs looking for new homes because someone THOUGHT they were the right breed!

  14. #92
    Senior Member mom24doggies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    392

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicRe View Post
    if this is a new dog starting on raw, then chicken bones are the softest...try a drumstick and see what happens....
    Well, I don't know about new, I've had him on it for like 2 or 3 months. And he handles chicken bones ok, it just takes him a little longer.

    That is fine that he isnt strong enough to crunch/eat the bone, but I would still be giving him the meat for the jaw strengthening and for the fact that it gives him something more to do! I would doubt that he will ever be able to eat most of the lager prey's bones...but just the gnawing on and working at is good for them!

    That stinks about the prices! Have you looked into co-ops in your area? Farmers/ranchers/hunters? Posted wanted adds on craigslist/kijiji/feecycle? (Ive gotten over 300lbs of free meat in the past month from my looking for adds...I would be happy to share my wording, just PM me
    OK, maybe I can give him some bone-in beef/pork once or twice a week then. That will give him some extra chewing and won't break my bank.

    I did look into co-ops a long time ago, I guess I could look again; the one I found in my area required that I do stuff for them though, and I'm not sure I would have time. The craigslist ad is a good idea though, I would love to see how you word it! I'll PM you for sure. thanks again!

  15. #93
    Senior Member abi88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    SKC, Wa, USA
    Posts
    395

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by mom24doggies View Post
    Well, I don't know about new, I've had him on it for like 2 or 3 months. And he handles chicken bones ok, it just takes him a little longer.


    OK, maybe I can give him some bone-in beef/pork once or twice a week then. That will give him some extra chewing and won't break my bank.

    I did look into co-ops a long time ago, I guess I could look again; the one I found in my area required that I do stuff for them though, and I'm not sure I would have time. The craigslist ad is a good idea though, I would love to see how you word it! I'll PM you for sure. thanks again!
    Well believe me, if you have a co-op around, IMO, join! We are a one car house hold with husband working (I am now also, but that is only within the last 2/3 weeks) but I have picked up a couple little things and dropped/held some stuff off for mine and believe me the deals that Ive gotten have been well worth it!! (We are soon getting 35-50lbs calves for a flat $35!! That is as low as 0$.70/lbs!)
    (Where are you located?)

    Also if you have any processing plants around you can normally get their "scraps" as well. Or look into and see if you can find any restaurant suppliers around who sell to the general public!
    Im Abi, the VERY PROUD FurMommi to"The Boys", Rhett(2011) and Leo(2007), Breed: Border Collie and Brody(2010), Breed: Pug/x.


    Border Collie: When in doubt, do without!! There are far too many BCs looking for new homes because someone THOUGHT they were the right breed!

  16. #94
    Senior Member Kathyy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    6,226

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by mom24doggies View Post
    I would like to know if I'm giving Trev enough variety in his diet. He eats chicken (usually drumsticks, thighs, and wings), pork (ground or shoulder, along with chopped neck bones for recreational chewing.), beef (ground, but not as often, it's expensive!), ground turkey (sometimes) and canned mackerel (doesn't like raw fish, for some reason.). For his liver/organs he gets chicken liver/kidney, tripe, and beef liver. I supplement his food with calcium if he's eating mostly ground meat that meal, vitamin C for his flat feet, and a coat supplement. He also gets some vegetables/fruit and occasionally some rice.

    I don't think I missed anything! Does that sound varied enough? TIA!
    No chopped neck bones! See if you can buy them before they are chopped up though. See if you can find racks of BBQ beef ribs on sale this summer too, they are great big meals.

    Your organ variety is fine but tripe isn't an organ.

    Agree, use whole meats if you can afford them. Google "pink slime" if you want to know more about how an awful lot of ground meat is made these days.

    Canned fish is okay and if you must feed some rice and veggie/fruit go for it but it doesn't count as part of his 2%.

    Remember chicken is overall 30% bone, you can feed 2 boneless meals to each bony chicken meal and be providing the right amount of calcium. I doubt you need to add calcium to the boneless meals.

    I like to feed chicken for its bone content which means Max mostly gets feet, head/neck and rib sections at the moment. I like to be sure at least half the diet is red meat. I want to either feed the equivalent of a day's worth of high omega fish or fish oil capsules, not liquid. I want to use half beef liver for its copper but not all the liver should be beef.

    You are doing fine according to my guidelines. Add in an egg every so often, I generally forget but they are good stuff too.

  17. #95
    Senior Member MagicRe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    1,239

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    the more workout he gets, the better it is for you and for him....so pork ribs are great, even if it takes an hour to plow thru...

  18. #96
    Senior Member mom24doggies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    392

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathyy View Post
    No chopped neck bones! See if you can buy them before they are chopped up though. See if you can find racks of BBQ beef ribs on sale this summer too, they are great big meals.

    Your organ variety is fine but tripe isn't an organ.

    Agree, use whole meats if you can afford them. Google "pink slime" if you want to know more about how an awful lot of ground meat is made these days.

    Canned fish is okay and if you must feed some rice and veggie/fruit go for it but it doesn't count as part of his 2%.

    Remember chicken is overall 30% bone, you can feed 2 boneless meals to each bony chicken meal and be providing the right amount of calcium. I doubt you need to add calcium to the boneless meals.

    I like to feed chicken for its bone content which means Max mostly gets feet, head/neck and rib sections at the moment. I like to be sure at least half the diet is red meat. I want to either feed the equivalent of a day's worth of high omega fish or fish oil capsules, not liquid. I want to use half beef liver for its copper but not all the liver should be beef.

    You are doing fine according to my guidelines. Add in an egg every so often, I generally forget but they are good stuff too.
    Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it! And I didn't know that about chicken, glad you told me!

    Responding to spammers
    Last edited by cshellenberger; 07-12-2011 at 03:26 PM.

  19. #97
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Gillett/San Antonio TX
    Posts
    5,074

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Ewwwwwwww! I just googled pink slime... Gross! No more ground beef for mr... Or the dogs! Only whole meat from now on, or ground turkey... Unless that isn't safe anymore! *-* >

  20. #98
    Senior Member MagicRe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    1,239

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogdragoness View Post
    Ewwwwwwww! I just googled pink slime... Gross! No more ground beef for mr... Or the dogs! Only whole meat from now on, or ground turkey... Unless that isn't safe anymore! *-* >
    i know...isn't it gross....and it's the same for ground anything.....turkey necks are good

  21. #99
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Gillett/San Antonio TX
    Posts
    5,074

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    So no ground turkey, or pork... How am I supposed to make hamburger helper & chili now??? O_O. I guess I could make the chili with stew meat cut into really small chunks I guess... No wonder how many ppl are turning to vegan, vegetarian, & tofu.

  22. #100
    Senior Member abi88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    SKC, Wa, USA
    Posts
    395

    Re: Feeding Raw - Where to Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogdragoness View Post
    So no ground turkey, or pork... How am I supposed to make hamburger helper & chili now??? O_O. I guess I could make the chili with stew meat cut into really small chunks I guess... No wonder how many ppl are turning to vegan, vegetarian, & tofu.
    Stew meat is GREAT in chilly! as is Ham/Bacon!


    and Re, ya know I always knew that I didnt like the idea of mass produced ground meat, now I know why!!
    Im Abi, the VERY PROUD FurMommi to"The Boys", Rhett(2011) and Leo(2007), Breed: Border Collie and Brody(2010), Breed: Pug/x.


    Border Collie: When in doubt, do without!! There are far too many BCs looking for new homes because someone THOUGHT they were the right breed!

Page 5 of 18 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast

Quick Reply Quick Reply



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
SEO by vBSEO 3.5.2 ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.