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    Bear Attack in Florida.....

    It was bound to happen.......

    Black bear attacks cyclist going to work.
    PANAMA CITY, Fla. A Panama City man is recovering after a black bear attacked him while he was riding his bike to work.

    John Hearn said he saw something out of the corner of his eye early Thursday morning. The nearly 300-pound bear smacked him off his bicycle and then fled into some nearby woods. P***ing motorists stopped to help Hearn, who sustained minor injuries. The back tire of his bike was also ripped off.

    Hearn, who bikes to work at Tyndall Air Force Base a few times a week, said he still plans to bike to work.
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    Doesn't sound like a full attack. . .no biting, etc. I wonder if it had something to do with the bike (my dogs will chase and knock people off bikes even though they'd never knock a person down otherwise). Glad to hear the guy is OK!

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    Ok, first you tell me that gators can be found in the ocean and now you tell me black bears are knocking people off bicycles near one of my favorite places in FL. Good god, man! What's next? 8 ft armadillos?? Pterodactyls? Stop scaring me -- I need my FL vacations!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by winniec777 View Post
    Ok, first you tell me that gators can be found in the ocean and now you tell me black bears are knocking people off bicycles near one of my favorite places in FL. Good god, man! What's next? 8 ft armadillos?? Pterodactyls? Stop scaring me -- I need my FL vacations!!

    Scary?????

    A bear running down a guy on his bike is Funny
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    That is pretty funny. Aren't black bears supposed to be less likely to bother a person? I can't recall. My dad and I really enjoy that video of the hunter yelling "GET OUT OF HERE BEAR!" at a curious black bear who is merely following and calmly checking him out.

    Have you seen the video of the bear that climbed the tree stand a hunter was sitting in? The guy let it get practically to the top before he said "Hey. What are you doing?" and the bear ran like a bat out of hell.

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    That bear was obviously selling parts to bicycle chop shops.

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    Re: Bear Attack in Florida.....

    Sounds like it was "bearly" an attack...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ View Post
    Unscary only if he speaks Russian and looks like he's about to go for a ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoseWordsAtBest View Post
    That is pretty funny. Aren't black bears supposed to be less likely to bother a person? I can't recall. My dad and I really enjoy that video of the hunter yelling "GET OUT OF HERE BEAR!" at a curious black bear who is merely following and calmly checking him out.

    Have you seen the video of the bear that climbed the tree stand a hunter was sitting in? The guy let it get practically to the top before he said "Hey. What are you doing?" and the bear ran like a bat out of hell.

    Coming from someone that has spent his life in the woods with black bears and a fair amount of time in Grizzly country.... And has taken the time to become educated on bear safety.....Me.....

    Black bears attack and kill more people than Grizzlies. That is a pure numbers thing.... Humans get a WHOLE lot more exposure to Black Bears.

    Something of note.... Grizzly bear attacks are USUALLY Territorial.... or guarding cubs....

    Black bears are usually predatory....

    The rule of thumb is if a grizzly attacks you play dead.... A black bear, fight for everything you are worth because if you play dead it will just start eating you while you are still alive..



    This next thing I came up with on my own..... Black bears are curious and will often follow you. I don't allow them to follow me if I know they are back there (I have yet to meet a quiet bear) Because who knows when curiousity will turn into something else.
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    I'm really glad that I don't have to worry about bears on my bike ride to work. I would have to actually buy a helmet.

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    Black Bear Video

    HILARIOUS news report about black bears on youtube. This thread reminded me of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBandit View Post
    The rule of thumb is if a grizzly attacks you play dead.... A black bear, fight for everything you are worth because if you play dead it will just start eating you while you are still alive..
    NOT. Reassuring.

    Curious - will a black bear back off if a larger dog (say, oh, 80 lbs) is with you, barking? I'm sure it depends on circumstances, but on average, would it be a deterrent? Or does the dog just look like dinner?

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    Re: Bear Attack in Florida.....

    I knew that biking stuff wasn't as healthy as claimed.
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    If you are in bear country and take a dog to "protect you" beware. Dogs are smart about bears. Humans are dumb about bears. If the dog meets a bear he will usually run back to YOU and then get BEHIND you.. while running he has said, over his shoulder, "Follow ME bear.. I have something back here that is a LOT more tender.. heard he/she tastes like Chicken!"

    (Seriously, most dogs will not stand ground on a bear but will run back, bear hot in pursuit, and stand behind you).

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    I knew that biking stuff wasn't as healthy as claimed.
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    Curious - will a black bear back off if a larger dog (say, oh, 80 lbs) is with you, barking? I'm sure it depends on circumstances, but on average, would it be a deterrent? Or does the dog just look like dinner?
    We used to vacation in the Berkshires, at a state park where there are many black bears. We saw them every day around our cabin. Because of the campsites, and people feeding them, they were very accustomed to being around people and dogs.

    One night, a couple who had a 5 month old black lab puppy with them, let the dog out of their RV because he was barking and they thought he had to go to the bathroom. Nope. He treed a full grown black bear.

    A friend of mine had 3 large dogs with her, outside, and still the bears came into the yard behind her cabin. She made the mistake of going to park during the spring, when the bears were hungry and many more of them approached the areas where people were. We went in July and August only, when the bears were more interested in the cornfields, and were not starving.

    We got a Collie (Teddy) after the first time we vacationed there, on the theory that he would protect us from the bears. He got used to them and never considered them to be a threat. Once around noon, my kids and an adult friend were sitting around the picnic table at our cabin. They were roasting marshmallows. A bear came out of the woods and literally bellied up to the picnic table. The dog was right there, but he did not bark. My friend noticed him out of the corner of her eye and screamed bloody murder. The kids leaped up a 3' wall onto the porch and into the cabin, lickety-split. The bear left immediately.

    Another time, my friend came back to the cabin with groceries. She was standing on the porch yelling to be let in the house. On the other side of the porch, about 8' away, stood a black bear who was interested in the groceries.

    The park rangers had to kill a bear once in the 6 years we went there, because he came to the tent camping area often to scrounge for food, and he could not be scared off. Usually, the park hired a man who had "bear dogs" to chase bears back into the mountains. I don't know what kind of dogs these were -- they were big, short-haired, and ran in a large pack, barking the entire time. We saw them a few times in the mountains, and the dogs ran past us and completely ignored Teddy and me.

    Teddy and I spent a lot of time hiking in the mountains, and we never saw a bear except around campsites and cabins. There is no way I would have ever tent camped there. Too many times people went to their tents and found a bear sitting there. Usually it was because they had food in there -- a bear can open a jar of peanut butter, and they will try to break into cars. My SUV was often covered with bear paw prints in the morning because a bear thought there might be food in it (there was not). The cabins were safe because they had bear-proof screens on the windows and a bear-proof screen door, along with a regular door of course.

    My Collie was bigger than the breed standard -- he weighed 100 lbs. and was not fat. He looked bigger because of all of his fur. If a bear had threatened us, he could have scared it off by charging and barking, but none ever did. They just stood there quietly. I always kept a very sharp eye out because they are so quiet.

    In the 8 years we had Teddy (he died of cancer in February), he only had to protect me once, and that was from a park ranger. So I hope he would have, if he had felt that I was threatened by a bear. (The man was fired -- it turned out he had a long history of being a peeping Tom and stalking women who camped there. The director of the park knew about it, but did nothing because the man was his friend. I handled it.)

    When cubs were around, we stayed in the cabin with the doors and windows locked. They are awfully cute, but dangerous because their mothers are nearby and are very protective. I've seen mothers with three and four cubs ... so it is not always one cub per mother, which surprised me.

    We quit going there when the park no longer allowed dogs in the cabins, because it was too dangerous. I could have brought a rifle along, but I didn't look forward to spending my vacation with a rifle on me. There was no cell phone coverage there, and the cabins were isolated.

    If a black bear comes close, you are supposed to wave your arms around so you will look bigger, and make a lot of noise. They will flee, most of the time. Nonetheless, they are dangerous. They have snatched a baby from her stroller (NY), and an 11 year old boy from his tent (Utah), and killed them.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/20/ny...kills-her.html
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2944148.shtml

    Another interesting article: http://www.scribbyworld.com/other204.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmickle1 View Post
    Black Bear Video

    HILARIOUS news report about black bears on youtube. This thread reminded me of it
    Was that news clip seriously aired?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperFerret View Post
    Was that news clip seriously aired?
    Haha, yes! By WJW

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmickle1 View Post
    Haha, yes! By WJW
    Wow! LOL!

    And Wvasko - HA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by winniec777 View Post
    NOT. Reassuring.

    Curious - will a black bear back off if a larger dog (say, oh, 80 lbs) is with you, barking? I'm sure it depends on circumstances, but on average, would it be a deterrent? Or does the dog just look like dinner?
    Depends on the dog and the bear.... Hunters regularly use hounds to run bears. Young bears run and tree.... Older bears run until they get tired and then either tree or fight.

    Intelligent driven dogs dogs are usually safe around bears and bears will retreat. There are exceptions. If the bear really wants something....And Mother bears.
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    Re: Bear Attack in Florida.....

    Quote Originally Posted by winniec777 View Post
    NOT. Reassuring.

    Curious - will a black bear back off if a larger dog (say, oh, 80 lbs) is with you, barking? I'm sure it depends on circumstances, but on average, would it be a deterrent? Or does the dog just look like dinner?
    Black Bears are not nearly as dangerous as people like to play it up as. I bumped into several while I was on my yosemite trip, accidentally coming within 20' of one at one point (it was 5am and dark). The bear was more spooked than I was, and I just yelled and screamed at it and did the YMCA dance. It ran away. I think the YMCA dance was the trigger.

    99.9999999% of the time a black bear is going to run away from you. Them predating on humans is extraordinarily rare and statistically insignificant. Of the 0.00000001% times that a bear might attack you, it's generally defensive in nature, not aggressive.

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