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    NJ passes tethering bill

    So this bill was passed today:

    http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2010/Bi...00/1518_I1.PDF

    Thoughts? My most recent adoption was tethered under a tree on a 10 ft chain and choke collar for the first 3 years of his life. Somehow, once we got past the lack of socialization, lack of manners, fear of new people, lyme's disease, and collapsing trachea (have to walk him with a harness), a wonderful dog emerged from that trainwreck. I obviously can see how tying a dog out 24/7 is damaging to a dog, yet I am not sure if this will be beneficial to the dogs long-term. These tied out dogs will not be moved inside, they will go into outdoor enclosures that are most likely easily escaped (i doubt anyone who tied out a dog will make sure their kennel is escape proof) and will run at large. I'm not sure if that is any safer than being tied out.

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    Guess I won't be camping in NJ any time soon.



    (Not that I was going to be, anyway.)

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    A small snippit of the bill for viewing

    b. A person is guilty of cruelly restraining a dog if the person:
    (1) restrains a dog by means of a tethering device attached to a fixed point between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. or for a period of more than one hour between the hours of 6:01 a.m. and 9:59 p.m.;
    (2) restrains a dog by means of a running cable trolley system between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. or for a period of more than six hours between the hours of 6:01 a.m. and 9:59 p.m.;
    (3) regardless of how long a period of time, restrains a dog by means of a choke-type collar, a prong collar or by any similar device;
    (4) regardless of how long a period of time, restrains a dog by means of a tethering device that is less than 10 feet in length, that weighs more than 1/8 of the dog’s body weight, that is attached to a pulley, trolley, loop or other moveable device running on a cable less than 10 feet in length or mounted more than seven feet above the ground, or that, due to weight or any other reason, inhibits the free movement of the dog in the area within which the dog is restrained;
    (5) regardless of how long a period of time, restrains simultaneously more than one dog by means of a tethering device attached to a fixed point or a running cable trolley system; or
    (6) regardless of how long a period of time, restrains a dog in a manner that could result in injury, strangulation or entanglement of the dog with any man-made or natural object.

    First bold number 3, does this mean walking/training the dog too?
    number 5, NJ mushers beware, thats BS

    I have lots of issues with this bill! I Have Hawkeye on a tie out daily after 10:00pm

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Keechak View Post
    A small snippit of the bill for viewing




    First bold number 3, does this mean walking/training the dog too?
    number 5, NJ mushers beware, thats BS

    I have lots of issues with this bill! I Have Hawkeye on a tie out daily after 10:00pm
    If you read on they say the previous sections don't apply under a bunch of conditions, including for training purposes or if using a "hand held leash". I agree that there are a LOT of issues with the bill, especially if you are a musher or are camping or if you have an unfenced yard and you want to keep your dog with you while doing yardwork

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    How many mushers do you think live in NJ? LOL

    I doubt the law applies to having your dog tied out in the yard WITH you.

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    LOL! I'm getting the impression that there is little love for my home state in this thread! No one wants to come camping, mushers don't want to live here... Next thing you know there will be a show portraying us as tanned alcoholic meatheads. Oh wait....

    I'm leaving as soon as I can afford to.

    Also, I didn't see them say specifically that supervised tethering > 1 hr is acceptable and I wouldn't put it past our wonderful state to leave out that important detail.

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    I hardly think that any police or AC officer is going to cite someone that is gardening with their dog tied out with them. There are more important things to do, and not enough money for that kind of enforcement. I think what it WILL do, is allow someone to call AC on a person that has their dog tied out 24/7 in a snowstorm and it's barking it's head off. They can now act against that person, whereas before, if it had food/water/shelter they couldn't do anything.
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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    The penalties are so light.. a disorderly.. if you read the whole law which includes horses and other animals in part of it (the State Ag law). The penalty is a violation (no permanent record), a fine and loss of the dog.. which might be mitigated depending on circumstances.

    The law excludes professional kennels and competitions etc. but you cannot use a dog as a draft animal for business... so there goes my dream of a dog pulling a cart as I go 'round with my hat out and my harmonica and my trained house cats... at least in NJ... LOL

    I see where lawyers could have a hey day with this law (tho they won't because the light penalties just make it expensive to fight)... but I think its INTENT is to eliminate the dogs tied out to dog houses with Logging Chains.. and dogs in 4X6X6 feces filled kennels.. (tho a 150SF kennel.. just over 12X12 can quickly become a cess pool too).

    I was also going to add.. with the Catskill Forest Preserve in the Adirondack park not that much further north.. why would ANYONE camp in NJ?

    Here in NY we pick on NJ all the time.. When I drive home on Friday nights, the stream of yellow plates coming north for the Forest Preserves and for skiing is an almost continuous stream (White face, Gore, Lake Placid etc.). I always laugh and say, "See? Even the ppl in NJ want to leave even if for just the weekend!"

    That being said, if you want good Flounder Fishing the place to go is off the NJ coast... south of NY...

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    I think the purpose of this type of law is to give authorities the tools to deal with the worst offenders, not to bother with technical violations.

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    The problem is that the intent is often lost if there is someone who is over zealous.. and the law can be enforced to the letter.

    More laws typically do not follow with funds for more enforcement..
    More dog laws mean more ways to interpret how we own or keep dogs and the case law out of those laws is often decided by people who know nothing of dogs, dog owners, or dog training (either good or bad) beyond what they have seen on Disney..

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldavis View Post
    I think the purpose of this type of law is to give authorities the tools to deal with the worst offenders, not to bother with technical violations.
    Then it's a bad law. The result isn't to capture the worst offenders, but give the police something to charge you with while investigating something else according to the letter of the law. So if, say, the police come with regard to a noise or nuisance complaint, they can find something else to charge you with if they don't find evidence of something else.

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    Re: NJ passes tethering bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Willowy View Post
    How many mushers do you think live in NJ? LOL
    You'd be surprised -- there's a whole club out in the Pinelands. I'm part of it

    NJ sucks in a lot of ways -- I've lived here my WHOLE life and I'll be the first to admit that. But I also don't want to leave this state. I think people don't realize how much variety exists within our state's borders.
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    I believe there is a second club somewhere in the northwest part of the state. I bet you've enjoyed the snow we've been getting these last 2 years!

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