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    Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    I should start by saying that this whole train of thought is just me in the very early planning stage. In the future, I would love to be involved in showing and breeding, even if it's only me and one dog (I don't think I could handle having a dozen adult dogs like some breeders can). This won't be happening in the next five, or probably even ten years, so you don't need to lecture me or anything. I just want to get as much information as I can, as early as I can.

    Boxers are really my heart breed. My SO owns two, and my family was considering getting one for a long time before Bear came into our lives. I've met and known many in my lifetime, and I don't think I've ever met one who I didn't immediately fall in love with. They're so smart, so loving, and probably most importantly, so fun. It's impossible not to have a smile on your face when a Boxer is in the room, they're just always doing something goofy and silly and having a great time. They're just my definition of a perfect dog.

    However, for a plethora of reasons I won't get into here, I do not wish to get into showing/breeding Boxers in the foreseeable future. When some things change, possibly, but for now, we'll be sticking to rescue boys. So what I'm looking for is a breed that is similar to a Boxer in the ways described above - smart (which I know is not the same as and often the exact opposite of trainable, so don't worry about that), loving (I'm not really much of an "independent" dog person), and again, most importantly, fun. I have no patience for super-serious or super-mellow dogs. Things like size and coat type aren't really important, I'll look into that kind of stuff when I read about the breed.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    There are a ton of boxers in rescue where I am and a ton more boxer mixes. If you are looking for a dog like a boxer that is available as a rescue dog, what is stopping you from getting a boxer? If your local shelter doesn't tend to get boxers in very often, some breed rescues will transport or you can make a little weekend vacation road-trip to a breed specific rescue to pick one out.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    We have two rescue Boxers, and we'll ALWAYS have rescue Boxers until they put me in the ground. This is for in the future when I want to be involved in showing. If my intention wasn't the show ring, then even THAT dog would be a rescue.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    So why not get a show quality boxer?

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Bullies. And Bull and Terriers.

    total goofballs.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Well, I do wonder what the reasons preventing you from showing a boxer are that wouldn't prevent you from showing a similar dog... but if you don't care to share them, then one suggestion is a bully breed like ABPT or a Staffordshire Terrier. They are smart, people loving dogs that tend to be high energy and playful.

    Edit: Ha, Zim and I posted the same thing at the same time.

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    I think you should just go to a dog show and watch/meet some different breeds. I had researched German Pinschers a bit online and didn't think I liked them much, but then I went to a show, met a bunch and fell in love with them. I'll probably have one someday. You can do all kinds of research into breed characteristics and whatnot, but there's no substitute for getting out there and actually meeting some breeds. I find a lot of handlers will be very honest about temperament, as well, whereas online many people will talk up their preferred breeds.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    I'll mention it just because you're curious - the main reason I don't want to show Boxers at this point is because I don't personally like cropping/docking, and an undocked tail on a Boxer is severely penalized under the current standard. I didn't mention it because I don't want the thread to to turn into a big pro/anti docking debate and be locked, so let's just leave that at that.

    I'll definitely have to look more into the bully breeds. It's funny that you should mention Bull Terriers, because it wasn't so long ago that my SO was trying to convince me that she wants our first non-Boxer dog to be a Bullie so he can be her sidekick. Do they tend to be as DA as some sites let on? I know a lot of it is training/socialization too, but the sites I've read about Bullies basically said they couldn't be around other dogs, at all. That seems like a bit of an overstatement to me, 'cause they say the same thing about APBTs, but I've known several who loved (or were at least tolerant of) other dogs.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TorachiKatashi View Post
    I'll definitely have to look more into the bully breeds. It's funny that you should mention Bull Terriers, because it wasn't so long ago that my SO was trying to convince me that she wants our first non-Boxer dog to be a Bullie so he can be her sidekick. Do they tend to be as DA as some sites let on? I know a lot of it is training/socialization too, but the sites I've read about Bullies basically said they couldn't be around other dogs, at all. That seems like a bit of an overstatement to me, 'cause they say the same thing about APBTs, but I've known several who loved (or were at least tolerant of) other dogs.

    It varies much as anything else..there are a lot of factors. APBT are..well..my aggressively DA pit gets along with select dogs after a bit of thoughtful training. I wouldnt leave her ALONE with another dog...but she can be around dogs. just not in the happy fun playtime sense..more of a haughty "Im ignoring you" posture. But then a human shows up and suddenly she wants to play with the human AND the dog..Bullies are very much people dogs.

    human attention brings out the showoff in them.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mCi0Cn1d8

    more typical bully
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/off...d.to.death.cnn

    i should also add..though i hope it was apparent from the vids..that being high energy people dogs means that a good chunk of the bully breeds can be a handful..but you've had boxers and seem to be knowledgable in training...you can turn it to your advantage in training easily if you keep up and know what you're doing.
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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Standard poodles are fun, active, VERY loving (you'll never go to the bathroom alone again), and smart smart smart. Tails are typically docked, and continental show coat is a bitch to upkeep, but you could show in UKC with a full tail and different clips. They're super awesome dogs, play hard and could definitely keep up with a boxer.
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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Smart, friendly, silly...sounds like a Lab to me. I know a great deal more about Labs than I do about Boxers, but I've met enough to say that their personalities have always struck me as very similar.


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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Yeah, I know all about that. My boy Bear is great with little dogs but hates large dogs (he was attacked by our BYB neighbour's incredibly DA and HA Rottie when he was a year old). He's at a point now where he'll tolerate them, more-or-less. He won't go near them and he still gives them the stink eye if we pass one on our walk, but he doesn't lunge and snarl at the end of the leash like he used to, which I'm happy with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    Standard poodles are fun, active, VERY loving (you'll never go to the bathroom alone again), and smart smart smart. Tails are typically docked, and continental show coat is a bitch to upkeep, but you could show in UKC with a full tail and different clips. They're super awesome dogs, play hard and could definitely keep up with a boxer.
    Oh wow... You have no idea how much I'd love that. But my SO has this... Weird random hatred for everything Poodle. I'm not even allowed to ask if we can get one anymore. I love her, but she's strange sometimes. Maybe I should spend the next however many years compiling reasons why we should get one. xD

    As far as the bathroom, believe me, my cat already has that covered. Heaven forbid I should go to take a shower without bringing him in with me, he'll sit outside the door and scream the whole time. He doesn't actually want to come in, he'll run away if I open the door. He's just a jerk I think. But that's just part of having a deaf pet, I suppose. He can't hear me, so he always wants to be able to see me.

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    What a shame about your SO! Has she ever met a standard poodle in person? I bet they would win her over, although I've met quite a few poodles with crap temperaments unfortunately. If you ever do try to convince her that poodles are awesome dogs, meet with a good breeder or go to an obedience or agility venue. I hate how poodles are perceived so negatively by public They really are super super dogs.
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    I love standard poodles, they really do have a great temperament.

    And I understand where you are coming from with the docking/cropping, I am not a fan and if I was to choose a breed to get involved with it would not be an altered breed.

    American bulldog was the first dog that came to my mind, but there are so many.

    Standard poodles are a docked breed are they not? or am I just confused.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TorachiKatashi View Post
    Oh wow... You have no idea how much I'd love that. But my SO has this... Weird random hatred for everything Poodle. I'm not even allowed to ask if we can get one anymore. I love her, but she's strange sometimes. Maybe I should spend the next however many years compiling reasons why we should get one. xD
    Is it the haircut? Show her one in a German Trim, that's what made me completely revise my opinion of them (looks-wise). If I ever got a Poodle, I'd keep it in that style.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Boston terriers, the ones I know are like mini boxers as far as temperment.

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    Poodles are docked, but quite a few breeders will leave a natural tail if you ask. The only problem with that is you have to pick your pup when it's only a couple days old. You could import a pup from Europe (they have GORGEOUS lines over there) and they do not dock. I would love a Euro pup...beautiful coats and heads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pai View Post
    Is it the haircut? Show her one in a German Trim, that's what made me completely revise my opinion of them (looks-wise). If I ever got a Poodle, I'd keep it in that style.
    That's Paris! I'm not crazy about the german, but Paris really rocks it.
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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Oh man, you're all getting me excited to go out and get a Poodle. I'm really big into Obedience (not currently competing, but I can't wait!) and I've seen so many brilliant Obed. Poodles. I don't think I'd have one for show (the Poodle ring is seriously hardcore), but I'd so love to have one anyways...

    I don't think it's the hair, it's more that she's just got this image of a snooty, saucy little ankle biter stuck in her head as soon as she hears the word "Poodle," no matter how much I assure her that Standards (and even any properly trained Mini or Toy) are nothing like that. I think I'll definitely have to drag her off to places to see some Poodles and try to change her mind.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pai View Post
    Is it the haircut? Show her one in a German Trim, that's what made me completely revise my opinion of them (looks-wise). If I ever got a Poodle, I'd keep it in that style.
    Do you know which countries/registries allow you to show in the German Trim? Neither the AKC, UKC, or CKC allow the German Trim. They all allow the Puppy, English saddle, and Continental. UKC also allows the Sporting clip, and the AKC allows the Sporting clip for Stud dog & Brood Bitch classes and non-competitive parade of champions.

    OP-There's lots of breeds that fit into your smart, loving & fun requirements. Here's a few that might interest you Bull Terrier, Curly coat Retriever, Dalmatian, Flat-coat Retriever, German Shorthaired Pointer, Schnauzer, Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever, Pointer, Samoyed, Swedish Vallhund, & Vizsla.

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    Re: Breeds Similar to Boxers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TorachiKatashi View Post
    Oh man, you're all getting me excited to go out and get a Poodle. I'm really big into Obedience (not currently competing, but I can't wait!) and I've seen so many brilliant Obed. Poodles. I don't think I'd have one for show (the Poodle ring is seriously hardcore), but I'd so love to have one anyways...

    I don't think it's the hair, it's more that she's just got this image of a snooty, saucy little ankle biter stuck in her head as soon as she hears the word "Poodle," no matter how much I assure her that Standards (and even any properly trained Mini or Toy) are nothing like that. I think I'll definitely have to drag her off to places to see some Poodles and try to change her mind.
    could be anything. Im well aware that Poodles arent horrible dogs...i just dont really like their general temperament..and that's not saying its BAD temperament...Ive met many happy, friendly Poodles....however there are certain aspects of their temperament that clash horribly with my own...and honestly..i couldnt tell you specifically what they are...just that sooner or later..if its a Poodle...it starts to get annoying...i wouldnt turn down one in need if i could help it..but i will never own one permanently.

    i guess what im saying is if you really want one...try to approach it more like a question than "NO..you're just being silly, Poodles are great!"....because while of course there are silly reasons to not like a dog...there are also legitimate reasons...

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