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    Unhappy My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    I feel at fault, at least part. Her dog got spayed yesterday and died during the night. A simple and common surgery. I know a surgery is a surgery bit still, this one is so common.

    She had called me yesterday around 8:30 pm for an opinion, asking about her dog's behavior. Saying she was loopy. I told her that a number of my animals were loopy afterwards too. To just be careful, don't let her up on things. And watch her while eating and drinking. Then later, through a text she mentioned how Keira (dog) kept whining. I told her I don't remember any of mine actually crying but then didn't say much more about it.

    I got the text this morning, at 3 am, that she passed away! I was shocked and in disbelief! I should have went over to see Keira! I didn't tell her to take her to the emergency vet ... I guess because it was a spay and I let my guard down with that being such a common surgery.

    I was loved that dog and I know my friend was extremely attached to her. I feel so bad! I cried when I found out. Later I'm going to ask if she informed her vet today (which I'm sure she has). I just wish I had gone over to see Keira last night. I wish I had told her to see the E-vet for just in case.


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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    i am sorry to hear that. I had never heard of such thing. If it happened to me I would take it further. Though it will hard emotionally and physical evidence wise. A sad story!!!

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    I am so sorry. I understand your guilt , but this isn't your fault . Sorry to your friend for her loss.

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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    Don't beat yourself up over it. It is terribly sad and unfortunate... I feel awful for your friend! But it sounds like something highly unusual happened - and you couldn't have known it was as bad as it actually was. Don't bear this burden - something happened during or after the surgery to poor Keira, and the complications were too great for her body to take. All you can do now is be there for your friend. She needs you right now.

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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    As soon an I get off of work I'll be going to my friends house to be with her. Just now, on my lunch, I ran over to check on her puppy but my friend won't be off of work till later when I get off of work.

    How do we take it further? What questions should we ask the vet now that Keira is already gone? (We still have her body. But my friend and her boyfriend plan on burying Keira tonight.)

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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    You could have a different vet do autopsy but I'm sure that's an expensive program. Sorry for loss.
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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    My friend and her vet spoke on the phone. The vet said she probably had internal bleeding. (Vet didn't see her just went by what was described. Keira's belly was bloated a bit and felt squishy if you touched it.)

    Her vet also gave her a full refund for the spay. My friend tried to refuse the offer as "he did do the surgery". But the vet convinced her to take the refund and said it would make him feel better if she excepted the refund.
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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    I dont have any answers but I'm sorry for the loss of this puppy. I hope your friends heart heals

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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Keira was only 2 years old. My friend also has a 4 month old puppy named Nala. That's who I was checking on earlier today. Nala hasn't been herself since Keira has been gone.

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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    I'd be contacting the State Veterinary board and asking if the vet has any complaints/disciplinary actions or formal or informal hearings held against him. Depending upon the answer would determine my next actions. There was a vet where I used to live that killed 8 dogs through botched spay/neuters and misdiagnosis. He even did a Chryptorchid neuter and used only a paralyzing agent with no anesthetic. The dog ended up dead.
    If there were no other complaints, I would ask that vet to do a necropsy and see what happened. If there were other complaints, I would have a different vet do a necropsy, and if needed file a complaint to the State Vet board, if it shows negligence.
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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by spotted nikes View Post
    I'd be contacting the State Veterinary board and asking if the vet has any complaints/disciplinary actions or formal or informal hearings held against him. Depending upon the answer would determine my next actions. There was a vet where I used to live that killed 8 dogs through botched spay/neuters and misdiagnosis. He even did a Chryptorchid neuter and used only a paralyzing agent with no anesthetic. The dog ended up dead.
    If there were no other complaints, I would ask that vet to do a necropsy and see what happened. If there were other complaints, I would have a different vet do a necropsy, and if needed file a complaint to the State Vet board, if it shows negligence.
    I totally agree with this advice! Definitely contact the State board and go from there.
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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    I am so sorry for the loss of your friend's dog. So hard to handle, especially when it is a basic surgery that 90 percent of the time or more is successful and safe.
    It's not your fault, it's not your friend's fault and it may very well be not the vet's fault. Maybe the dog had an undiagnosed bleeding disorder or something similar.
    Sometimes, sadly, these things happen.

    Now, if it were me and my dog I would have had a necropsy done. To see if there was anything that I could watch for the next time, to find out if there was nothing that could have been done, to take the mystery out of it. A woman who lived in my building had a bouvier that developed pyometra at 3 years of age, they did an emergency spay and the dog bled out even after transfusions...turned out she had a bleeding disorder that was undiagnosed. No one could have known and being an emergency surgery time was of the essence and sadly she died. No one's fault, but knowing ahead of time that the disorder existed (like testing before surgery in routine, non emergency elective surgery, might have saved the dog.)

    I do hope though, that your friends does not let this tragedy prevent her from spaying her pup when the time comes.
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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    They've already buried Keira so I guess it's too late for any tests to be done. I'd really want an answer myself. She said her and the vet, over the phone, came to an agreement that it was enternal bleeding. And she said she likes this vet because "he's always been good with Keira, and Bear (her friends dog), and the puppy." But I think she's only had to use that vet for regular check ups and for minor skin irritation. I personally would be weary about going back to him. But, then again, my trust with a vet can be easily broken.

    I think I'm going to contact the state board myself to see if there's been any complaints, just to fond out.

    When I was with her yesterday I did tell her, "Ya know, don't let this effect you with fixing Nala. ...this really isn't a common outcome of a spay."

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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    I always leave the extra blood work and pre surgical testing up to my vet. Maybe if I spay again I will be talking a bit more to him.

    That said, I never lost a cat or a dog to post spay complications or a dog or horse or cat to post neuter (gelding) complications.. and I have had very very good veterinarians.

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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    It's not your fault hon, your friend should have been on the phone with the vet asking these questions, not you. I think people forget that ANY surgery can have serious complications even the 'simple' and 'common' ones. When in doubt, contact the doctor (vet).
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    Re: My friend's dog died yesterday! I feel so bad.

    I am sorry to hear about your friends dog. Its not your fault, and nor hers.
    Even a simple operation can have complications during or after the surgery. Thoughts and prayers for you and your friend.

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