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    Angry Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Willow keeps getting heartworm over and over this summer and I didn't understand why...until I notice the deer poop everywhere. It was all over in the front yard so I brought her to the backyard instead to do our activities, and it was okay for a while. Then yesterday morning I found some "surprises" in the backyard, but it was too late and she already sniffed it so I think she has worms AGAIN now (her gums are getting paler, but no bloody stool yet). I keep having to give her her heartworm chew twice a month instead of once. I covered that little pile o' poo with a rock, but I still feel that no where is safe. We don't have a fence so they can just come in and out of our property as they please... Is there anything I can do to try and steer the deer (lulz) away from my property? I'll be taking Willow out on a leash from now on (I trust her off leash on my property) to try and avoid the poop... I'm SO frustrated!! My baby is constantly sick.

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Have you talked with your vet about the heartworm chew? I know that some active ingredients are more effective than others and it is possible a different brand would be more successful. You should also double-check the recommended dosage for her weight with the vet, a double dose might be too much.

    I'm a little confused though, as I thought heartworms didn't show any symptoms until they were very bad and that coughing was the first sign when they did get bad. Have the vet run a fecal test to see what she is actually picking up.

    ETA: Doh, I didn't even think about the method of transmission, just that the rest of it didn't make sense. although, repelling the deer will still be a good thing for preventing other worms and less ticks too. If you have a mosquito problem, start searching for standing water.
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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    I think heartworm is transmitted by mosquitoes so you shouldn't have to worry about the deer poop.

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Yeah, I'm a little bit confused too. How do you know she's getting heartworms and not some other worms? Has your vet told you to double dose and that she has heartworms?

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    ...I don't think heart worms is a come and go thing. Heart worms need a treatment that's about $300. (or +) and isn't something that will go away on it's own or by another chew. I was also under the impression that once a dog get's heart worm, it's really bad to give them a heart worm preventative. And yeah, heart worms come from mosquitoes. Not sure about deer poop.

    I agree, your dog might have some other type of worm.

    Sorry that Willow keeps getting sick though. Hope she gets better soon!

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    You could try looking for deer repellants at your local hardware store.


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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    do you mean something like hookworms or roundworms? Most of the heartworm preventatives also kill intestinal worms, which is why you might have been given that pill. Heartworms don't, as was said above, come and go and require lengthy treatment

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Heartworms are transmitted by infected mosquitoes..they bite infected dog, larvae sits in mosquito, mosquito bites dog and infects it. It takes up to 6 months for the larvae to migrate to the heart and become adults and produce microfilaria to start the cycle again.
    Deer poop has nothing to do with heartworms.
    As for giving two chewables a month, the "deadly dose" of the drug in the HW meds is very high so this likely hasn't hurt your dog but it is not advisable to continue this double dosing.

    Pale gums can mean many things, some caused by parasites, some not. You need to have a fecal tested for other parasites and blood drawn to test for HW, if the pale gums and diarrhea occur semi regularly I would certainly be doing other sorts of tests to ensure there is not something more serious going on.

    As for the deer feces, they are vegetarians, so most of their poop will be grass or bark..they could carry some parasites of course, but not as many as a carnivore might. I'd be suprised if the deer poo is the issue.
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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Probably hookworm, yeah. Heartworms don't come and go, they aren't transmitted in poop, and it tkes 6 months for them to grow big enough to cause symptoms. Plus you'd need a bood test to diagnose it, and I doubt you're doing blood tests twice a month!

    Are you sure Willow is actually getting worms? What are the symptoms? I don't know which worms deer have. You might want to ask your vet about some other de-wormer instead of giving her the Heartgard so often.
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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    No, you guys are right, sorry. It is hookworm, not heartworm. It was described to me by my old vet that hookworm is a type of heartworm, so now I'm in the habit of calling it that... Stupid vet.

    I know she has hookworm when her gums go pale and she has blood in her feces. I'm assuming she's getting it from smelling it or licking it off her paws. The vet told me that the chewable should kill it, and it does because I give it to her and her gums become normal again and so does her feces in a matter of a day or so. I'll be seeing my vet or at least a vet tech tomorrow for some other issue so I'll ask them about it.

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    I remember discussing with my vet that certain preventatives are more effective against hookworm. We also frequent high deer-poop areas, so it was of big concern to us. Have you tried switching the type of preventative?

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    You might have her tested for erlichia and Lyme disease, which are both tick borne diseases and can cause anemia as well as other problems.
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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Yeah. . .I know that hookworms cause anemia and all that but I would think it would take a while for the infestation to build up to that level. Definitely ask the vet. Something ain't right.
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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Heartgard is supposed to manage hookworms along with roundworms and (obviously heart-worm microfilea). Once I got a higher dose I haven't seen Bones have hookworms anymore even though he does snatch the occasional batch of catpoop that I don't see :x *pumps fists at annoying neighbors who let's their cats run loose*

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Quote Originally Posted by doginthedesert View Post
    I remember discussing with my vet that certain preventatives are more effective against hookworm. We also frequent high deer-poop areas, so it was of big concern to us. Have you tried switching the type of preventative?
    I could be wrong, but deer poop really shouldn't be an issue for hookworm either. It's possible that they could be a host, but I've never seen them listed as one. Parasitic worms are usually fairly limited in who they infect and deer have really different digestive systems than dogs...

    I don't know much about heartworm medication - so I don't know what's in these chews, but Panacur is the usual de-worming med for hookworms.

    Out of curiosity, where do you live?

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    Re: Freaking stupid deer poop and heartworm.

    Last month I had her tested for Lyme and Erlichia and it was negative. She was on Heartgard but my dad decided to go to a generic brand since it was cheaper and he said that the ingredients were the same, so I didn't question it. Her gums are pink still and there's no bloody poop so I think she's fine and I just over-exaggerated when I saw her sniffing the deer poop. XD But there have been times when she's stepped in it or sniffed it and gotten it shortly after. One time she rolled in deer poop in the backyard and got it immediately. Maybe it wasn't hookworm, maybe it was some other worm, but it was bloody poop and pale gums were the symptoms.

    I know you're not asking me, but I live in Eastern PA.

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