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    There really is no excuse for your dog to run at large. My dogs (I have 4) have never been in my neighbor's yards. Although trained well, I leash them even when I transfer them from the car to the house. I crate them when I am not home in a locked bedroom. That way, none of the kids can accidently let them out or make a bad decision. My dogs spend a lot of time in my fenced back yard, but NEVER unsupervised.

    If my neighbors told me that they would shoot my dogs if they saw them running at large, it would not worry me. This never happens. We have many loose dogs in our neighborhood and I deeply resent them. However, none of them are mine.

    Just do what you need to do to keep your dog safe and contained. It'sll be okay.

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    I think the one and only thing you can do to protect your dog is make sure that it never leaves your property. Even if it weren't for the issue with your neighbors you should make sure that your dog is never wandering around outside of your house/yard. In the country, many things can happen to dogs:

    --Farmers/neighbors shooting them for causing mischief

    --Hunters leaving out poisoned meat to kill dogs that they think are scaring away game

    --Getting hit by a car

    --Getting attacked by other stray dogs or wild animals

    --He could also attack someone

    It's really important that you set things up in a way that your dog can never accidentally get lose. Grab his collar or tie him up before opening the door. If you let him run in your yard unsupervised make sure that your fence is impenetrable. You got lucky this time. All it takes is one mistake to end your dog's life.

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    I had a friend who's own grandfather SHOT and KILLED BOTH of her dogs, just because they came over to play with his old dog.
    So, either tell your friends to make SURE that the door is shut behind them, or/and train your dog like everyone has suggested. THere really are people who wouldn't hesitate to shoot a dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsha=whitie View Post
    I had a friend who's own grandfather SHOT and KILLED BOTH of her dogs, just because they came over to play with his old dog.
    So, either tell your friends to make SURE that the door is shut behind them, or/and train your dog like everyone has suggested. THere really are people who wouldn't hesitate to shoot a dog.
    Ouch... off topic but did he know they were her dogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones View Post
    Ouch... off topic but did he know they were her dogs?
    yes, he did know because she had brought them over there MANY times (they're neighbors). He has dementia and alzhiemers, so maybe that had something to do with it, idk.
    It was horrible... my dad and I were coming back from breakfast, and we drove by her house. I saw her grandpa picking up her rottie/pit Jovi and throwing her limp body into the back of the truck.. that was probably the worst wake up call EVER. Her mom had let them out of the basement without telling her about it, or else the dogs would've been inside.

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    *sigh*

    my dog bolts out the door as well, does not have a reliable recall, and is fearful of strangers (but not aggressive). we do lots of training, we do use baby gates, we watch him like a hawk, he gets walked twice a day so it's not like he's desperate for adventure....and still there are times when he manages to slip out the door. you can't change a dog overnight.

    I'm sorry but I don't agree that the neighbor is acting appropriately at all. My neighbors' dogs pee on my property and dig up my flowers all the time and you don't see me running out to kick them and threaten that I'll shoot them. That's just ridiculous. He may be within his rights to do so, but it's still ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T_dog12 View Post
    We live in the country and we don't even have a dog catcher. I just called my Sheriff and he said they can kill my dog if it's on their property and there's nothing I can do about it. I told him they kicked it but he said that they really can't prosecute for animal cruelty since it's my word against theirs. The thing is that he wasn't being aggressive. I now he's aggressive but they don't. He was just marking his territory and they went overboard. He had his tail wagging.
    No, he was marking THEIR territory. Dogs with wagging tails will still bite.
    You need to train your dog and/or put up a fence or kennel.
    Crate him when people come over if you can't keep track of him.

    AND, he was digging up their flowers. Did you offer to replace what he dug up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick50 View Post
    I think your sheriff's dept. must be an Andy and Barney outfit. Try shooting someone that's come in your house for no reason and see where you land. Just because someone breaks in doesn't give the right to use lethal force unless they're threatening bodily harm or you believe your life may be in peril. This is the way the courts see it.

    In like manner, even though your boy could stand some training about coming when called and not to bolt just because someone comes in and he ceases the opportunity, your dog doesn't sound like he's the neighborhood bully who roams about seeking someone to devour but he's just doing what's natural to many dogs, marking territory and digging. For that you're going to be shot? That's BS, pure and simple whether he's on your turf or not. Unless he's spied someone in their yard and comes over to attack them, I see no grounds to shoot him. I've had more than one dog come into my yard while I was outside just to investigate and maybe pee on my Rose of Sharon tree. Most times you can tell their intentions by body language.

    I had a lumbering Basset Hound come up my driveway not long ago just to see what I was doing. He had been going from house to house checking things out. His collar was on and I figured he was just out and about being nosey and just got out. Should I have called the owner and threatened to shoot him just because he was on my property? Let's get real. Your dog wasn't being aggressive and I see no need to make a "I'll shoot your dog" call in this particular instance. Being attacked on your property by an unknown dog is one thing(I've been there) but peeing on flowers, crapping in your yard and digging is NOT grounds for murdering someone's pet.
    I guess you have never lived in farm country. Farmers can and will shoot any stray dog.

    It's not up to the neighbor to know how to "read" the dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsha=whitie View Post
    yes, he did know because she had brought them over there MANY times (they're neighbors). He has dementia and alzhiemers, so maybe that had something to do with it, idk.
    It was horrible... my dad and I were coming back from breakfast, and we drove by her house. I saw her grandpa picking up her rottie/pit Jovi and throwing her limp body into the back of the truck.. that was probably the worst wake up call EVER. Her mom had let them out of the basement without telling her about it, or else the dogs would've been inside.
    I'm thinking if someone in the household has dementia, there should not be any guns lying around.

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    It was a mistake to call law enforcement, but it's too late to do anything about that now.

    Next step is to apologize to the neighbor again. He was in no mood to hear it right after the dog tore up his yard. Tell him that you know saying you're sorry is not sufficient. Pay for all the damage. If the neighbor responds favorably, keep him informed about what you are doing to train and control your dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sablegsd View Post
    I'm thinking if someone in the household has dementia, there should not be any guns lying around.
    Yeah... needless to say, her grandma hid all of the guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick50 View Post
    I think your sheriff's dept. must be an Andy and Barney outfit. Try shooting someone that's come in your house for no reason and see where you land. Just because someone breaks in doesn't give the right to use lethal force unless they're threatening bodily harm or you believe your life may be in peril. This is the way the courts see it.

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    That is not the case in much of the country. Many states have castle doctrines (I would not live in a state did not have one.) Someone breaks in your house they are a fair and valid target. You should not have to retreat or wait until someone does something to threaten you in your own home. A forceable entry is more than enough to know they are up to no good.

    In Florida, your home, place of work, vehicle, hotel room, etc are all covered under the castle doctrine. On the street you do not have to retreat as long as the threat and potential means is there before using deadly force.

    Another good thing about Florida. If you send your dog on someone in a situation covered by the castle doctrine, the dog is protected from a bite history.
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    maybe it's different in the US.... but I for one HAVE lived in farm country, my parents grew up in farm country, and my grandparents had farms. none of them or their neighbors would kill a stray dog. even when a dog was continually coming on their property to kill chickens or livestock.
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    Maybe I am a bit "off my rocker", considering that this person had just threatened to KILL my dog, but,...I think that were I in this situation, I would try to put my anger, scaredness, & appall aside, & try going a more tactic, humanic route. I would march my bottom BACK over to the neighbors house(- the dog of course), & proceede to "kiss his bottom" so to speak. I would let them know how awful I felt about what had happened earlier, ask what kind of flowers they would like so I could replace them, give them my cell phone number, inform them that I was going into extensive training of my dog, &, beg & plead w/them that in the future, should this ever happen again to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give me a call on the phone BEFORE they shoot my beloved pet!! I would also make sure that I trained the hell out of my dog too. Whats a better "motivator" to train them KNOWING that they could possiably be shot dead w/1 bullet for being somewhere that they DIDN'T belong?
    My experience w/people consists of "sometimes you should burn bridges...other times you should help BUILD bridges"...in THIS CASE?? By all means,...BUILD A BRIDGE w/this neighbor!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveDadson View Post
    It was a mistake to call law enforcement, but it's too late to do anything about that now.

    Next step is to apologize to the neighbor again. He was in no mood to hear it right after the dog tore up his yard. Tell him that you know saying you're sorry is not sufficient. Pay for all the damage. If the neighbor responds favorably, keep him informed about what you are doing to train and control your dog.
    Why didn't you tell them just to politely ask the neighbor if they could kiss his a**!! What stupid advice. Maybe go over and shine his shoes, cut his lawn and fix his brakes after you take out his trash and offer him half your savings. The dog took a leak on the bushes or flowers maybe uprooted one or two-big deal. That ain't justification for threats like that. What are you going to do if a couple teenagers come over while you're blowing the sidewalk and bang on your mailbox-pull out your hog leg and blow them away or offer them $20 to do it again?

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    The OP's admittedly agressive dog dug up the neighbor's garden after getting loose.

    The OP has stated that she isn't sure she can keep her dog off the nieghbor's property forever.

    The OP, if she loves her dog, should mend fences. And keep her dog home.

    It was good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick50 View Post
    I think your sheriff's dept. must be an Andy and Barney outfit. Try shooting someone that's come in your house for no reason and see where you land. Just because someone breaks in doesn't give the right to use lethal force unless they're threatening bodily harm or you believe your life may be in peril. This is the way the courts see it.

    In like manner, even though your boy could stand some training about coming when called and not to bolt just because someone comes in and he ceases the opportunity, your dog doesn't sound like he's the neighborhood bully who roams about seeking someone to devour but he's just doing what's natural to many dogs, marking territory and digging. For that you're going to be shot? That's BS, pure and simple whether he's on your turf or not. Unless he's spied someone in their yard and comes over to attack them, I see no grounds to shoot him. I've had more than one dog come into my yard while I was outside just to investigate and maybe pee on my Rose of Sharon tree. Most times you can tell their intentions by body language.

    I had a lumbering Basset Hound come up my driveway not long ago just to see what I was doing. He had been going from house to house checking things out. His collar was on and I figured he was just out and about being nosey and just got out. Should I have called the owner and threatened to shoot him just because he was on my property? Let's get real. Your dog wasn't being aggressive and I see no need to make a "I'll shoot your dog" call in this particular instance. Being attacked on your property by an unknown dog is one thing(I've been there) but peeing on flowers, crapping in your yard and digging is NOT grounds for murdering someone's pet.

    You better believe that if some stranger breaks into my home, he's getting a slug in the chest. That action in itself is threatening, and I'm not taking a chance with my life or my family's. But that's just the Marine in me.
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    A few thoughts. First of all, your dog is YOUR dog. It's up to you to keep him contained in your home. If a friend let him out accidentally, that's your problem. If you must, keep your screen door locked so no one can just open it up. I know, this may seem like a pain in the butt but with a dog that has escaped, esp one who is aggressive, you need to keep control.
    I am a dog person but if I strange dog came into my yard, while I wouldn't shoot it or threaten the dog or you, if I felt threatened, I'd probably call the police and/or put out a trap to catch the dog. I have two neighborhood dogs, both labs, who are out loose and visit our yard. We know one well, the other one won't come near is but I know they mean no harm. It might be different if it was a dog I've never seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick50 View Post
    Why didn't you tell them just to politely ask the neighbor if they could kiss his a**!! What stupid advice. Maybe go over and shine his shoes, cut his lawn and fix his brakes after you take out his trash and offer him half your savings. The dog took a leak on the bushes or flowers maybe uprooted one or two-big deal. That ain't justification for threats like that. What are you going to do if a couple teenagers come over while you're blowing the sidewalk and bang on your mailbox-pull out your hog leg and blow them away or offer them $20 to do it again?
    He should be happy the neighbor just didn't shoot his dog. Because as it is clearly expressed in the thread the neighbor would have been perfectly in the right to do so- according to the law. Whether or not you agree with it. It's best to amend the situation so that if it happens again the dog isn't killed.

    Human life and dog life are just not on the same spectrum, your analogies are based on false logic. There are plenty of people where I live who have shot dogs that wandered on their property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainingjunkie View Post
    The OP's admittedly agressive dog dug up the neighbor's garden after getting loose.

    The OP has stated that she isn't sure she can keep her dog off the nieghbor's property forever.

    The OP, if she loves her dog, should mend fences. And keep her dog home.

    It was good advice.
    Getting along with neighbors, or people in general, has much to recommend it. Besides, the OP is in a bit of a bind. He or she called the police and confessed. Not good. Now the neighbor and the cop are allies. If there is another incident, the cop can testify about the confession. The OP is best advised to defuse the situation, and that begins with acting responsibly. He should pay for the damage. There's a chance that the neighbor is a reasonable person who was just upset.
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