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    Border Collie owner-Help Please!

    Hi, I am new here, wondering if anyone may have some advice for me. We have a border collie/aust. shepard mix who will be a year old at the end of this month. The problems I am having with him are numerous...
    One of the biggest issues is that when he is inside with my kids (4 of them), he gets so nervouse and worked up that whenever they walk through the house, he starts drooling like crazy, and licking a chewing the floors/walls. He has chewed holes into the drywall in several rooms in me house. He has also chewed through tile flooring in my kitchen. This is when the kids just walk from one place to another. He just licks and licks and licks the floors. He plows over my youngest son when he is just walking into another room. I am concerned, because he has knocked him over pretty hard at times, and seems to have no regard for injuring him.
    We walk/run him daily, and we have a "run" outside that is 300 ft. long for him to run on, but nothing helps. When men come into the house, he nips at their feet and will not let up. He does have a crate, and when I put him in it because of the nervousness, he does calm down, but as soon as I let him out, it starts again. The house is literally soaked in drool from the floor licking.
    I did own a Border Collie before, and he was the complete opposite of this dog. He LOVED the kids, and he ran circles around them also, but you could just tell that it was the "herding" instinct in him, and he was doing it to protect them. This puppy seems almost like he is stalking prey!
    Any/all advice is really apprecated.

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    Re: Border Collie owner-Help Please!

    With a mix like that, it sounds like that dog would need a real job to do. I know that BCs can get really neurotic if they don't have any mental stimulation in life.

    Have you tried to enroll him in a training class?

    Drooling like that is a sign of severe distress. Have you taught your kids how to properly act around a dog?

    Here is more information on drooling taken from www.associatedcontent.com:

    Oh, that drool your pet has he slobbers all over the place including on you. Some dogs drool more than others because of their size and some drool because thatís just their nature and behavior. So what can you do if your dog is a big time slobber? You can follow these simple ways to decrease your dogís excessive drooling. If your dog seems to be drooling more than usual, check their mouths to see if they have any foreign objects inside. Dogs put almost anything in their mouth, so it is no big surprise that you may find anything in their mouth that is causing them to drool excessively. If you find something you canít get out of their mouth, of course take them to the vet to have it removed professionally. Donít try to remove something that is lodged you can cause damage to their mouth, teeth, or they may end up swallowing the object.

    Excessive drooling can mean your dog is nauseous so be careful what you feed your dog. Some human food will make your dog drool excessively because they have an upset stomach from eating too much of whatever scraps it is youíve been feeding them. At times my dog seems to drool a lot when she is in the car riding with me. Car rides can make some dogs nauseous causing them to drooling excessively. What you can do is not feed them a lot of food right before you take them on a ride, roll down the windows it may be too hot in the car, or you can also let your dog ride in the front seat. My dog seems to not drool as much when sheís riding shotgun. I also notice if I stop more often she will drool less, so instead of trying to make those green lights, going through the yellow lights, or traveling on the highway, try taking the long, scenic route with a bunch of lights and stop signs to help decrease your dogís excessive drooling while in the car.

    If your dog is a big time drooler, try putting a bib loosely around their neck to prevent a lot of drooling on your floors, furniture, and you. You can buy a bib or you can use a cloth, thick paper towel, or a haircloth to help decrease the drool. Meals will cause almost any dog to drool excessively just because they are excited about eating. If you feed your dog inside, make sure you put a placement mat under their food bowls to decrease the excessive slobber on your floors. If you dog is usually pretty clean but all of a sudden starts drooling excessively take them to the vet, anything could be causing the drool, including poisoning, which could be accompanied by vomiting. However, problems with their teeth are the biggest cause of excessive drooling. Things like chipped or loose teeth and gum problems are usually the main reason why a usually dry dog will start drooling excessively.

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    Re: Border Collie owner-Help Please!

    Thanks for responding so fast. I haven't enrolled him in training, but I am definitey looking into that. The kids have been around dogs their entire lives, and they really are good with him, its just that the kids serously can't do anything without this happening. If my youngest son (18 months) tries to walk anywhere or play with a truck, etc, he nips his legs or plows him over like a bulldozer. literally, the entire hardwood floor is shining with drool from him licking. He also shakes like crazy when he is inside. You can tell that he is really nervous. I have mentioned this to the vet, but he says that its just the way these dogs are. I remember my other Border Collie being energetic and high strung, but this one is off the wall. I almost think he has a health problem! I don't know what to do.
    I have always heard that these dogs are highly trainable, but this one won't listen to any commands whatsoever.When he wants attentions he will plow into you to the point of knocking you over. He like rams his entire body into you.
    Ugggh I am so frustrated. I want it to work out with him, I just don't know what to do.

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    Re: Border Collie owner-Help Please!

    I disagree with your vet that those dogs are just that way. I fostered an aussie for about five months, and yes, he was high energy, knocked down my son sometimes, and was kind of difficult (I don't think he had ever lived inside before), but he never displayed any nervous behavior like that. It sounds like OCD or something. How long have you had him? Is he ok when he's outside?I'd try a training class and maybe even consult with a dog behavior expert. Also, is there any cleaner or anything you use on the floors that he might find tasty? I ask because my my dogs lick the edges of the bath tub and I think it is because they like the smell of the bubble bath.

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    When he is outside he is pretty much the same, but rather than licking and drooling, he chews hole into the ground and digs like crazy.(we have no grass left.) He is pretty good when he isn't restrained outside, but then he leaves the yard, and has run after joggers, etc.
    I can't think of anything on the floor that he would like, and its definitely a nervouse thing, you can just see him licking and chewing on the walls or floors like he can't stop. OCD is a good way to put it, that exactly how he is. Its like he can't control him self. He just sits in front of the kids and waits for them to move, and then he follows them, like almost standing on their feet, and wherever they stop, he will sit right in front of them and lick or chew. I'll have to look into a behavior specialist for him.
    We got him last august, and he was with about 7 other dogs of the same breed, but a big thing I think, is that he was a turkey herder and he was not an inside dog. He was 4 months old when I got him, and I would have thought hat all of this time with us and being a house pet, he would have gotten used to it, but maybe not...?

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    Re: Border Collie owner-Help Please!

    Border Collies have a natural instinct for herding and if he had a"Job" before you got him he still thinks that is his job weather its turkeys or kids. It will take a lot of patience and a lot of retraining to get him to act like a "inside" dog. I would suggest that you enroll him in a obedience class He needs to learn different manners be taught a different "job" now that he is a pet. I grew up with border collies raising and training a total of 6 with the help of my parents. They take alot of time. Have you thought of doing agility training with him that would keep him stimulated as well as the obedience classes would be a great start. good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by sonnysmommy View Post
    When he is outside he is pretty much the same, but rather than licking and drooling, he chews hole into the ground and digs like crazy.(we have no grass left.) He is pretty good when he isn't restrained outside, but then he leaves the yard, and has run after joggers, etc.
    I can't think of anything on the floor that he would like, and its definitely a nervouse thing, you can just see him licking and chewing on the walls or floors like he can't stop. OCD is a good way to put it, that exactly how he is. Its like he can't control him self. He just sits in front of the kids and waits for them to move, and then he follows them, like almost standing on their feet, and wherever they stop, he will sit right in front of them and lick or chew. I'll have to look into a behavior specialist for him.
    We got him last august, and he was with about 7 other dogs of the same breed, but a big thing I think, is that he was a turkey herder and he was not an inside dog. He was 4 months old when I got him, and I would have thought hat all of this time with us and being a house pet, he would have gotten used to it, but maybe not...?
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    Re: Border Collie owner-Help Please!

    Thanks to all of you for your great advice. I feel better knowing that their may be hop for him. I think he really could be a great dog with some work!

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