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    Puppy born without rectum.

    Well guys, my breeder recently had a litter, and me and my family went and picked out a yellow lab from her, unfortunately this little guy was born without a rectum.

    I am really torn on what to do, the vet has done 3 surgeries now and it SEEMS that the digestive system and its exit are all working properly, but there is still a chance the dog may not be able to control his movements.

    I live in an apartment and I can't afford to be cleaning up after a dog that doesn't have control over his movements, but the pup has an incredible personality and I don't want to see the breeder have to put him down if the case turns out for the worst.

    Anyone ever heard of this happen before or know more about it?

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    I have never heard of than. Poor doggie. Maybe the breeder will not put the dog down. Maybe you should ask the breeder what he would do? Maybe he will find someone willing to take care of him. How long have you had him? I do not understand how this could be possible? I did the breeder not notice this right away? I am confused I guess. I hate to sound like a goofy kid when I write this because I am not but I do not know how else to ask this.

    Where did all the poo go before this was discovered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peace36 View Post
    I have never heard of than. Poor doggie. Maybe the breeder will not put the dog down. Maybe you should ask the breeder what he would do? Maybe he will find someone willing to take care of him. How long have you had him? I do not understand how this could be possible? I did the breeder not notice this right away? I am confused I guess. I hate to sound like a goofy kid when I write this because I am not but I do not know how else to ask this.

    Where did all the poo go before this was discovered?
    It was discovered at birth and a surgery was performed, then again a few weeks later. I knew of the condition when I picked him, but he was the first to come up to me when I walked into the cage and was the most playful and got along with people the best so I picked him, then I was informed of the issue. At the time she didn't think it was going to be a problem, but now the vet has said it could turn out to be a problem in the long run but its not 100 percent.

    So I guess I'll just go along with raising the dog and see what happens. She has offered me first pick of the next litter due in April, but I just can't seem to give this little guy away, he has the best personality in the world.

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    Maybe you make some changes in your home. Before we suddenley decided to move we were going to tear up the carpet and put the fake Pergo down because the dogs running in and out of the house and dripping water off their long haired faces was really creating a hard mess to clean. Maybe something like that would work better for you too?

    Well I sure hope it will not become a problem. Sounds like you really care about this guy He is lucky to have you, that is if you keep him.

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    I have not hurd of this type of thing in dogs however there are similar problems in other animals. Horses that are Leathal White are born with an incompleet intestan and will die or have to be put down with in a day or 2 of burth.

    Cows when they twin and have a bull and a heafer the heafer will not 99% of the time have a complet repo track and they will both be sold as feeders and the heafer will not be able to be used for breeding.

    Each and every one of these have a genetic link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrhareiner View Post
    I have not hurd of this type of thing in dogs however there are similar problems in other animals. Horses that are Leathal White are born with an incompleet intestan and will die or have to be put down with in a day or 2 of burth.

    Cows when they twin and have a bull and a heafer the heafer will not 99% of the time have a complet repo track and they will both be sold as feeders and the heafer will not be able to be used for breeding.

    Each and every one of these have a genetic link.

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    In the case of this puppy everything was there except for an exit. That is all the muscles of the sphincter and anus are in place and the intestines are all there. The exit just had to be opened by way of surgery. Still not 100% chance the dog will be continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DallasMavs View Post
    It was discovered at birth and a surgery was performed, then again a few weeks later. I knew of the condition when I picked him, but he was the first to come up to me when I walked into the cage and was the most playful and got along with people the best so I picked him, then I was informed of the issue. At the time she didn't think it was going to be a problem, but now the vet has said it could turn out to be a problem in the long run but its not 100 percent.

    So I guess I'll just go along with raising the dog and see what happens. She has offered me first pick of the next litter due in April, but I just can't seem to give this little guy away, he has the best personality in the world.

    Ummm. I'm not a professional dog breeder, so take my opinion how you want. Shouldn't a breeder inform you of any issues of the puppies before you pick one? Also, I am not a vet or a doctor, but how can a breeder honestly think not having a major intestine would NOT be a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanhoe29 View Post
    Ummm. I'm not a professional dog breeder, so take my opinion how you want. Shouldn't a breeder inform you of any issues of the puppies before you pick one? Also, I am not a vet or a doctor, but how can a breeder honestly think not having a major intestine would NOT be a problem?
    Sounds like the breeder did tell him since he said it was discovered at birth.

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    I agree with Ivanhoe....

    But, if the little guy can't get control, they do make doggy dipers for incontientence, or however you spell the stink'n word. You'd just have to make sure you changed them frequently, and I'm sure that would get expensive over time....what are you going to do when he is an adult and is making BIG messes everywhere? Will he still be wearing a diaper?

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    Smile freemartin

    In cattle when you have twins born in the same sack they are called freemartin females do not reproduce it happens in goats too . But if twins are born in separate sacks that is ok they can reproduce .
    But back to this puppy you said no rectum but every thing else was good so by them making the rectum for this pup its because there is no rectum mussel that it wont have control over its bowel movements it would just come on out am I right or not or can you explain it to me . But if you feel you can take this on I will stand up and appaud you as you are a great mom to this baby .
    You have over looked perfect

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    In holstien cattle it is a bull and heafer twins that the heafer will not reproduce. If they are both Heafers then they are fine. I can not speek to every breed of cattle just holstiens as that is what I am faimilar with.

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    I learned in school recently that when cattle have twins and one is a boy and one a girl the male will over power the females hormones when it starts making testosterone in the womb and then makes the female infertile. The testosterone masks the estrogen and sometimes the females are born with absolutly no reproductive organs inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sillylilykitty View Post
    I learned in school recently that when cattle have twins and one is a boy and one a girl the male will over power the females hormones when it starts making testosterone in the womb and then makes the female infertile. The testosterone masks the estrogen and sometimes the females are born with absolutly no reproductive organs inside.
    Yep that is what happends. There are quite a few of them at the Dairy farm down the road. They have over 400 milking head (which around here is considered a small opperaion) and do all their breeding AI with Frozen semen so they use differnt drugs and techneques that result if twins more then what they would like however it is a neacasary eavil when breeding that many cow/heafers a year.

    Quite interesting to be a part of such a large scale operation. really interesting what goes into something like that.

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    I have heard of this condition. I will talk to my boss about it tomorrow. I cannot recall the name of it but I know that it is not breed or species specific. A friend of mine her cousin had twins and one of the babies was born with no urethra so he had to have a surgery to have one constructed.
    Some dogs who are paralized and use doggy wheel chairs have a colostomy bag of sorts to catch their poop. And there was a miniature horse born near me several years ago with severe deformities of her legs and hooves and she also had an unusually small small intestine and no rectum or sphincter. She ended up living to be about seven years old because she was adopted by a lady who paid for her surgeries but she passed away from laminitis (swelling of the soft tissue in the hooves that is very painful and can lead to blood poisoning and other ailments if not looked after right away. Barbaro died of this terrible condition as well). She was euthanized.
    Has the breeder had any problems like this before? Did he offer you any advice aside from get another puppy or euthanasia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peace36 View Post
    Sounds like the breeder did tell him since he said it was discovered at birth.
    They told him after they picked it out. IMO This should have been told before any type of bonding gets made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanhoe29 View Post
    They told him after they picked it out. IMO This should have been told before any type of bonding gets made.
    It sounded to me like he already knew. Maybe I just read his post wrong. But Yes I agree with you they should definatley tell him before any type of bonding is made.

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