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    Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    I have began to suspect that my supposed Beagle/Lab mix is in fact a Beagle/BC mix, the mother was on site when i got her but the father was no where to be found, perhaps the people i got her from just assumed that it was neighbors lab, she seems to have the markings of a BC and the features of a beagle. here is some comparison.

    here is a Border collie


    Here is Shiloh


    Border Collie


    Shiloh


    Anyone think i am onto something or am i just fooled by the colors?

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    That neck wattle just screams "Lab!" to me. Unless Beagles have them, too? I'm not Beagle saavy.


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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    im unsure of what neck wattle is

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    "Wattle" refers to the dangling flesh found under the chins of many animals (including older humans!).


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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    ahhh, i think that is a beagle trait and also because my dog is slightly over weight.

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    It could be either. BCs don't have an official physical conformation standard, so they can really look like anything, but Shiloh's body looks too stout for a breed that is usually a marathon runner. The coat is common in Border Collies, but lots of dogs have the same color pattern.

    I believe the black/white coloration was a trait of the St. John's water dog, from which all the modern retrievers are descended. I'm not an expert, but it could be just a long-dormant coat pattern in Labs that got expressed from crossing with a Beagle; the face definitely carries Lab & Beagle elements.

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Independent George View Post
    It could be either. BCs don't have an official physical conformation standard, so they can really look like anything, but Shiloh's body looks too stout for a breed that is usually a marathon runner. The coat is common in Border Collies, but lots of dogs have the same color pattern.

    I believe the black/white coloration was a trait of the St. John's water dog, from which all the modern retrievers are descended. I'm not an expert, but it could be just a long-dormant coat pattern in Labs that got expressed from crossing with a Beagle; the face definitely carries Lab & Beagle elements.
    The coat is the main thing that makes me wonder, its very soft and the spots around the nose is something i have seen in many BCs

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    1) Wait, so the Beagle was the mother?

    2) Is it possible that there's both Lab AND BC in there? There's Beagle in her, no doubt... but the blocky head and the stout frame looks kind of Labby. At the same time I'm not sure where the black/white colouring could have come from. I want to say BC, but black and white runs in Beagles too, albeit uncommonly.
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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    Lots of Beagles are spotted, including around the nose. Check out the rescues on this page, especially Bucky, Annie, and Oreo.


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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    The mother was a pure beagle, perhaps the father was a Lab/BC cross, that would explain a few things, as far as the father goes, all i know is what they told me in the 5 minutes that i talked to them. (they said half lab and half beagle)

    btw, i have heard of the very rare black and white beagle before, that would be something else to own one.

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    Not really, I'm sure it would be just like owning any other Beagle, haha
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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    Quote Originally Posted by rosemaryninja View Post
    Not really, I'm sure it would be just like owning any other Beagle, haha
    yes, but a pure breed black and white one

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    I don't see any BC in her. I have seen black and white beagle mixes before and remember a LOT of breeds have those markings, not just BCs. Spaniels like springers often are marked like that.
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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    Lots of Beagles are spotty! Just ask Doug!



    Some beagles also get the neck thing as well.

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    My friend's dog looks just like Shiloh, and he's supposed to be a Lab/Springer Spaniel mix. I guess you can't dispute the Beagle part if that was her mom, but I doubt Dad was a purebred Lab.

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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?



    These fella's are brothers...Lab and Springer. They all look different. There is no specific confirmation in a mixed breed dog. Best ya can do is guess and have fun with it
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    Re: Beagle/Lab OR Beagle/border collie?

    It is possible for the mother to have breed with several dogs and have littlers such as this. I have BC's, and what your dogs looks like is a BC. Since you stated that the mother is beagle, I think you have a BC(coloring, face)/beagle( ears, neck) ears

    Quote Originally Posted by Cesare Borgia View Post
    The mother was a pure beagle, perhaps the father was a Lab/BC cross, that would explain a few things, as far as the father goes, all i know is what they told me in the 5 minutes that i talked to them. (they said half lab and half beagle)

    btw, i have heard of the very rare black and white beagle before, that would be something else to own one.

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