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    My puppy once scratched my thumb with its teeth. It was just 3-4 weeks old, too young for rabies shot.Since i was a kid, i hid this thing from my elders. Now it has been 4-5 years and my pup has grown up.
    Recently i read some article regarding the incubation in humans. This has made me nervous.What can i do now? Should i get shots now? I am getting paranoid over this.

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Didn't you ask the same thing a few days ago? I gave a more detailed answer the last time, but here goes again:

    The short answer is no, it is impossible for you to have contracted rabies from your puppy. Your pup would've died by now, and you would've shown symptoms within a year of the bite. You're 100% in the clear, no need to worry.

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    I thought it was pretty thoroughly covered in this thread. http://www.dogforums.com/general-dog...d-me-long.html (Puppy nipped me a long time ago.)
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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Here, if you want to hear it directly from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/transmission/body.html

    Once the virus reaches the salivary glands (so that the rabid animal can pass the disease on), it has already reached the brain and the animal will be dead very soon. So, because your dog is still alive, that means there is absolutely NO way she could have passed rabies on to you when she was a baby.

    If you're really anxious about rabies and you live in a country that has a high rabies rate, perhaps you should get the pre-exposure rabies vaccine so you don't worry as much. It's difficult to get the vaccine in the US but I understand they're a lot more casual about it in other countries.
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    You can worry if you want to. But the dog is alive today. This means the dog was not sick with rabies at the time of the bite.

    Transmission occurs only when the dog is symptomatic. The dog will then die within a few days.

    Do you obsess about other things in your life to this degree?

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Quote Originally Posted by DaySleepers View Post
    Didn't you ask the same thing a few days ago? I gave a more detailed answer the last time, but here goes again:

    The short answer is no, it is impossible for you to have contracted rabies from your puppy. Your pup would've died by now, and you would've shown symptoms within a year of the bite. You're 100% in the clear, no need to worry.
    They did.
    I informed them and they know it is less than one year and a min of 1 week.

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Typhoid. How about typhoid? Can I get typhoid from my puppy? [Just like Eddie Haskell, sometimes I call him, Mary ... so I'm sure he won't show symptoms.]

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    Hi all. Earlier i was not so nervous. I decided to consult this matter to an online doctor. The way he talked made me real nervous. He asked to go through various tests. When i told him my dog is still fine , he argued confidently, that i can still get the disease. That is why i had to post the same question on different threads. I wanted to be sure about this. I got a bit obssessed about it and i was very nervous.

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    I'm seriously skeptical of those online doctor services, and even if they are legit, for liability reasons I imagine they have to tell you to go talk to a doctor in-person for all but the simplest issues anyway.

    But rabies flat-out doesn't work the way you're afraid it will. Rabies incubates in dogs for a few weeks to a few months. It's not contagious until it moves to the brain, shortly after which (days at most) you'll start seeing symptoms. Once it becomes symptomatic, it's 100% fatal in a number of weeks. Animals cannot and do not contract rabies and get over it, or act perfectly fine for years and years.

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    He literally freaked me out. After that i did a detailed search on the topic. Found out that its very common and normal. And almost got the same thing on dogforum and cdc.
    Will take a little time for me to get out of this.

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Quote Originally Posted by vaibhav View Post
    He literally freaked me out. After that i did a detailed search on the topic. Found out that its very common and normal. And almost got the same thing on dogforum and cdc.
    Will take a little time for me to get out of this.
    I'm a little confused - what's common and normal? Rabies is very common in some countries, but well-controlled in the US and rarely found in domestic animals anymore. Partially because most are vaccinated (and mother animals' antibodies protect their babies for the first 8-ish weeks of life, so again, if your pup's mom was vaccinated, your pup was safe as well), and partially because it's rarer and rarer for dogs to be out wandering all day where they can tangle with wild animals. No animal is 'born with rabies,' which is a common myth. The virus has to be transmitted by an infected animal, most commonly from a bite, and it'd be very unusual for a 3-4 week old puppy to be exposed to wild, potentially rabid animals that could bite them.

    Rabies can incubate for a while - up to a few months in a dog and up to a year (not more!) in humans. But then the infected animal (or human), if unvaccinated, WILL get sick and die, in the span of a few weeks. Until the animal/human is showing active signs of sickness, they cannot pass rabies onto another animal. If the animal/human is vaccinated, the virus can't affect the host, and therefore never causes symptoms or becomes contagious and everyone is safe. I don't know how to explain it any more clearly. I understand the anxiety, honestly I do, but if any part of my explanations are confusing or unclear, please let me know what, specifically, I need to address to help you understand that you are in the clear and not in danger from the virus.

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    I think you got me wrong. What i meant by common and normal was puppy bite. I meant that almost every dog breeder faces this. I got the same explanation everywhere. But because of the anxiety and the amount of time i have spent thinking(over-) about it, will take a little time for me to settle to normal.
    You gave an excellent explanation. No doubt in that.

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    Aaah, yes! That makes more sense, thank you. Yeah, almost everyone who handles puppies (and some dogs act like puppies until they're 2 or 3 years old) winds up getting an accidental scrape or bite now and then. And puppy teeth are sharp before their adult teeth come in, so it doesn't take much!

    I'm glad I helped. Just take some time to breathe, treat yourself to something fun or relaxing. I'm a science person, majored in biology, so understanding the science behind these things really helps me, but sometimes you still just have to let it sink in for a bit.

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    Hi there. I am from India. People here go for the vaccination ASAP whenever the get bitten by any pet/stray animal. But while browsing over the net, I found that in some countries, as in USA, they have a observation perios of 10-15 days. If dog survives, not need of vaccine. Is this completely true?

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    Sorry for making this thread alive again. Although i am on road to recovery, but still some days, i get anxious and browse over the net. My overthinking has reduced, but i am still a bit anxious. I feel as in i need assurance everytime.

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Quote Originally Posted by vaibhav View Post
    Hi there. I am from India. People here go for the vaccination ASAP whenever the get bitten by any pet/stray animal. But while browsing over the net, I found that in some countries, as in USA, they have a observation perios of 10-15 days. If dog survives, not need of vaccine. Is this completely true?
    Yes, this is true. However, in the USA, all pets (cats and dogs, at least) are required by law to be vaccinated against rabies, and the overall incidence of rabies among animals that come into regular contact with humans is quite low in many parts of the country. In many other countries, like the UK and New Zealand, rabies is not endemic - it does not have any natural hosts so there are no reservoirs of the virus in the wild, and many of those countries take great care to make sure that no animal that enters the country may be infected with the virus.

    The situation in India is different. There are both wild reservoirs for the rabies virus (e.g., packs of feral dogs), and the population density of India means that humans are more likely to come into contact with wildlife more frequently. Combined with the limited development in some areas, including limited access to veterinary care means that vaccination against rabies, it is a much more prevalent disease. For all of these reasons, India has among the highest incidence of humans contracting rabies in the world and it is not surprising to me that it is treated differently there than in other areas where rabies is present but controlled by public health policies that have been in place for years or decades.

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    Although I have never seen anyone in my life suffering from rabies. But the people are always very cautious about it. No Matter what type of animal it is, they will go for vaccines.

    This is why I am so anxious. I keep thinking it in a way, as I can die anytime. Plus internet added to my anxiety. I read about long incubation in humans. And I was in the overthinking loop.

    But I hope I still don't have anything to worry about. I am still unable to stop thinking about it ?

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    If you are bitten by a stray or wild animal, or one that doesn't belong to you so you can't see if it lives or dies, yes, you should go get vaccinated. Since it was your dog and you can see that she is still alive, you don't have anything to worry about.

    But if it's really bothering you, you could go to the doctor and say you were bitten/scratched by a stray or wild animal, and they would probably give you the vaccine. It's not something I would volunteer for (!) but it might be better than worrying so much.
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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Actually i did consult a doctor. He said the same thing. He shrugged it off. Nothing to worry. Told the dog would have died with 15-20 days, then they might have considered .
    But in my case, no danger at all.
    I think it is the anxiety which is not allowing me to settle. I wasted a lot of time in over-thinking. This is why I still sometimes panic. Always look for assurance from some source.

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    Re: Puppy tooth scratch drew blood a long time ago !!

    Perhaps it's time to consult a doctor about the anxiety you're having surrounding this, specifically? Stress and anxiety can be as detrimental to your physical health as any disease, and once it starts impacting your daily life and becomes a huge, overbearing presence in your mind, it may be time to turn to professional help or peer support groups in your area. Because at this point it seems like the anxiety and panic are more the root issue than the rabies scare itself. Please understand I'm saying this as someone who is seeking treatment for my own anxiety as well, and who struggles with sometimes irrational fears that make it hard for me to focus and move on.

    As for the rest, just going to reassure you that everything I said before still stands! The US has the luxury of doing an observation period for domestic animals who bite someone, mostly because rabies is so well controlled in most domestic populations and because we understand the incubation periods in domestic species very, very well. So if the dog doesn't become obviously sick and die within a couple weeks of observation, there's no chance they have the virus.

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