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    Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Just Wondering, I've Got To Of My Own, Riley A Male Red Merle Miniature Australian Shepherd And Lilly A Female Black Tri Toy Australian Shepherd.

    I Would Love To Hear what you would have to say About yours!


    EDIT: Here's Riley's Dad ( Blue Merle ) And Mom ( Black Tri )
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Hi there. I have a female red merle miniature named Scarlett (and 2 shelties and a border collie). She's the nuttiest out of my four, tons of energy but lots of fun.
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    I love mine! We had two, but recently my 16 year old had to be put down.

    I also have a 6 year old red merle. I love Aussies sooo much.

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    There is a user here called Keechak who has three gorgeous Aussies. I think Aussies are beautiful, and I really hope to own one someday...I just don't have the time and energy for one right now!
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    We Were Planning On Breeding My Two, But Riley was to big for Lilly, And Lilly Had Some Anger Issues :l. As They can Possibly Move onto the puppies because its genetic So I've Heard from the Vet's. So We decided to not breed them and have Lilly Fixed. Now we're Hoping to get a Female Blue Merle, To breed with Riley, But My Mom doesnt want any more xD

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lillykins View Post
    Now we're Hoping to get a Female Blue Merle, To breed with Riley, But My Mom doesnt want any more xD
    DO NOT breed a merle to a merle....that is a lethal combination and you will have nothing but heartache thru a breeding like that.....i hate to sound harsh but if you don't know about the "lethal whites" from merle/merle breeding you should not even be breeding....do alot more research and studying (like yrs) and get yourself a mentor (someone who has been breeding QUALITY, either working or show and that does all the testing, etc, dogs for generations) b/4 you take this on....

    i have Border Collies....they are all bl/wh, or so i thought till i bred my 4 yr old to a merle....come to find out she is what is called a "cryptic or phantom merle", meaning she carries the merle gene....that produced this puppy (and i got lucky w/ her that she isn't worse than she is....



    she was born deaf (has gained most of her hearing), and is, i believe, to be autistic.....and who knows what else may be there.....

    mom has a barely noticeable frost area on one ear.....that says that she carries the merle gene and i had no idea (even after going thru breeders, it's that "unknown")
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    ^^Yeah, that. Breeding two merles together runs a high risk of blind pups, deaf pups, pups that are both blind and deaf, pups born without eyes....and so on...Aussie rescue is full of dogs like this. Please don't breed two merles together.
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Ohh, Thanks For Telling Me That, I Wont Be able To Breed Riley For a While Still, Thank You For That, That's One Thing I Didnt Know, The White Part , If You Breed The Two Will They Become A Really White Color for there coat?

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lillykins View Post
    We Were Planning On Breeding My Two, But Riley was to big for Lilly, And Lilly Had Some Anger Issues :l. As They can Possibly Move onto the puppies because its genetic So I've Heard from the Vet's. So We decided to not breed them and have Lilly Fixed. Now we're Hoping to get a Female Blue Merle, To breed with Riley, But My Mom doesnt want any more xD
    And I am hoping that you also have OFA certs for hips, elbows, eyes, and heart as well for Riley and plan on doing the same with any female you plan to breed? And also proof that they are worthy of being breed? I'm not trying to be harsh, but there are so many dogs in shelters and rescues and the world just doesn't need another BYB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmarie423 View Post
    And I am hoping that you also have OFA certs for hips, elbows, eyes, and heart as well for Riley and plan on doing the same with any female you plan to breed? And also proof that they are worthy of being breed? I'm not trying to be harsh, but there are so many dogs in shelters and rescues and the world just doesn't need another BYB.
    yeah, i was gonna bring that up next, but i had to get the "lethal white" factor out there....

    stuff you need to do b/4 hand....make sure Riley is OFA'd hips and elbows, CERF for eyes, BAER for hearing, heart, thyroid, and anything else the (mini) Aussie is at risk for...and make sure, as Tmarie said, that he is an excellent representative of the breed (is the mini Aussie even recognized thru major KC's)....then the female needs the same, plus you will want to have her tested to make sure she does not carry the merle gene (like my Tir does).....just b/c she is a bl/wh, tri, red, whatever, doesn't mean she isn't carrying the gene for merle which will also result in the same problem....be aware that some of these test can't be done till the dog is 2 and some need to be done yrly.....do your homework and do it w/ A+'s....that's the sort of people needed if any are going to breed....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lillykins View Post
    Ohh, Thanks For Telling Me That, I Wont Be able To Breed Riley For a While Still, Thank You For That, That's One Thing I Didnt Know, The White Part , If You Breed The Two Will They Become A Really White Color for there coat?
    it's not the coat colour that you really need to be concerned about (tho that will be an indicator of problems w/ the pup/s)....what happens is you have puppies born blind/deaf/both/no eyes/mental problems (Meghan is a "mild" case of what can happen)....this whole litter of mine, b/c of Meghan, will never go on to produce anymore pups....they have all (well as of the coming Tues when my boy is done) been s/n.....

    another thing, make sure you have excellent homes lined up for at least half the litter (this is where a breeder can also help, if you're breeding good quality stock) and all pups should go on contract ONLY.....
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Here's a quick lesson.

    Merle is dominant and 'lethal'. A normal merle like Riley is Mm, which is one normal and one merle gene. A solid colored dog like Lilly is mm. A merle times merle breeding is Mm x Mm. That means half the dogs will be merle- Mm, 1/4 will be solid- mm, and 1/4 will be double merle MM. Double merles have many issues that can come up with them. They often have hearing and vision problems and may be born with no eyes or underdeveloped eyes. The only way you get this is by breeding a merle to a merle. Some double merles are fine but some are not. It really depends on where the pigment is. In Aussies it is pretty common to find blind/deaf double merles in rescue.

    Breeding is a very complicated business. I don't know if I'll ever get to that aspect of dogs. Too many things can go wrong for my likes.
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Yes We Check The Hips Elbows And All That, We Did That With Lilly Before We Got Riley Because We Wanted To Breed Her Then. My Dad Is In a Recovery Place Right Now And I told Him About How We Can't Breed Merle To Merle. So He Know's Now. And I Wasnt Worried With The Color I Just Thought that there coat get's a very white color because I've seen Aussies like that. It would be horrible to have puppies suffer through that, thank goodness You all told be about it, I'll be doing more research on it. If theres anything else you need to tell me about Breeding then go ahead, I Havent Breed Before, And We Arnt really planning to for a while,Riley is still a little to young. So yeah, Once we Breed Riley I'll be sure to look at all the possibilities of birth and all that that could happen. And For some people who didnt know, I'm Not breeding Riley With Lilly, As We got Lilly Spayed.And We Will Have Good Haomes for about half or more of the puppies, Riley's Breeder is a Very Good Breeder, she takes care of ALL Of her dogs, And She would even be willing to take some or All.
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?



    Here is my aussie trying to 'fit in'...

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Can I ask why you want to breed your dog?

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Well, I'm Not Sure If We Will End Up Breeding Them, I Don't Think We Will End Up A Breeder , Just Possibly One Litter. But I dont Know Now. Theres A Chance We Will End Up Not Breeding Riley.

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Not breeding her is the best way to go.

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    I have one! Got mine last summer... The link below features 2 others that you may want to visit... I posted about my experience with my Aussie at first, as well as pictures of my gorgeous girl!

    I'm pleased to say she has come a looong way from the shy, anxious and nervous dog that she was. A lot of training, patience and love sure pay off! I have now completely bonded with her and love her to death!!!

    I support what everyone is saying about breeding... Please research, research, research, but I'd be tempted to say that you should leave it to others!

    Cheers!

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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    Not breeding her is the best way to go.
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    Iím bringing home a Mini Aussie on March 7th!
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    Re: Any Australian Shepherd Owners?

    i have one he is crazy but i love him dearly! he is soo smart and loving.
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