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    Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    My wife and I are thinking about owning our first dog together. We have pretty much made up our minds that we are going with the teddy bear puppies at Dirty Paws TeddyBears, which are sire Shih Tzus crossed with dam Bischon Frise and Poodles.

    Does anyone have any experience with this breeder? If so, what was it like?

    Also, does anyone know the pros and cons of owning this type of dog, besides the fact that it is an expensive mixed breed dog?

    And LASTLY, if you choose to respond, please...answer the questions I am asking. I am not asking about a shelter or rescue. Or am I asking about why a purebred is better than a mixed. I am asking about this particular breeder and the characteritics of this mix of dog....that is all.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    There is no such thing as a reputable or trustworthy breeder of mixed breed dogs. Period.

    I'm sure you could get a sweet mixed breed dog for almost free at any local shelter or rescue. Why pay $950 to $1,500 for a mutt?
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    I know people are very opinionated about mixed breed dogs...so please if you could give me something a little more helpful than they are expensive mutts, which I already know, I would appreciate it. My question is regarding this particular breeder and any helpful information about the teddy bear dog's characteristics.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Go to the shelter, find a fuzzy little mix, bring him/her to the groomer and ask for a "round teddy bear face"
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    You have to understand, there is no such thing as a teddy bear dog. She is taking three dogs and breeding them. What their characteristics are is anyone's guess. That's why some people stick with purebreds where they get what they expect and others go with mutts and take whatever they get.

    Anyone can breed two dogs of a different breed together, give them a fancy name and sell them for a fortune. It doesn't make it a breed OR a predictable dog with for sure characteristics.

    Honestly, you are being very misled even considering paying such a fortune for a mixed breed mutt. There are many sweet mixed breed mutts in shelters everywhere who would love to have a new home.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Quote Originally Posted by jatom View Post
    My wife and I are thinking about owning our first dog together. We really like the teddy bear puppies at Dirty Paws TeddyBears, which are sire Shih Tzus crossed with dam Bischon Frise and Poodles.

    Does anyone have any experience with this breeder? If so, what was it like? Do you recommend someone else?

    Also, does anyone know the pros and cons of owning this type of dog, besides the fact that it is an expensive mixed breed dog?
    there is no such thing as a responsible breeder of designer crossbreeds...period..


    Mixes are a dime a dozen in shelters across the country..dying.
    Buying from this type of person only adds to that.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Do you have any experience with the Dirty Paws TeddyBears breeder? If so, what was it like?

    Also, do you have any insight into the characteristics of this type of mixed breed?

    Do you have any experience with the Dirty Paws TeddyBears breeder? If so, what was it like?

    Also, do you have any insight into the characteristics of this type of mixed breed?
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Quote Originally Posted by jatom View Post
    Do you have any experience with the Dirty Paws TeddyBears breeder? If so, what was it like?

    Also, do you have any insight into the characteristics of this type of mixed breed?

    Do you have any experience with the Dirty Paws TeddyBears breeder? If so, what was it like?

    Also, do you have any insight into the characteristics of this type of mixed breed?
    1- No. I would never ever use my hard earned money to support a BYB.

    2- Find the characteristics of a shih, a bichon, and a toy poodle - the "teddy bear" could have ANY or ALL of them.

    MinPin - my feeling exactly
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

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    Do you have any experience with the Dirty Paws TeddyBears breeder? If so, what was it like?
    no...I wouldn't be caught dead buying a dog from such a breeder.

    Quote Originally Posted by jatom View Post
    Also, do you have any insight into the characteristics of this type of mixed breed?
    there is no insight to be had...its a mix...meaning no way to predict which traits will come from which parents and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar and needs to study basic genetics..

    jatom do you know what *breed* means?
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Quote Originally Posted by myminpins View Post
    Ditto what you said. BRICK WALL!
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

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    Do you have any experience with the Dirty Paws TeddyBears breeder? If so, what was it like?

    Also, do you have any insight into the characteristics of this type of mixed breed?
    This is an impossible question to answer. No two dogs bred from her will be the same. They are mixing 3 different breeds of dogs and trying to guarantee a temperment. You wont even come across a lot of purebred breeders doing that.

    The reason to stay away from them is simply because she is doing it for the money, not for the dogs. Purebred breeders breed for the quality of the breed, something mixed breeders cannot do. They are not making any specific breed better, they are charging huge amounts of money for UN tested UNpredictible dogs.

    The specific questions you are asking cannot be easily answered. No I have not had any experience with this breeder, but I know MANY people who have bought a mixed breed dog only to find out it's not what they were promised. If you're wanting to take a chance, go to the shelter, save a life. Instead of spending 1,000.00 on a dog that is only being bred to make the breeder wealthy.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    You have to understand, there is no such thing as a teddy bear dog. She is taking three dogs and breeding them. What their characteristics are is anyone's guess. That's why some people stick with purebreds where they get what they expect and others go with mutts and take whatever they get.

    Anyone can breed two dogs of a different breed together, give them a fancy name and sell them for a fortune. It doesn't make it a breed OR a predictable dog with for sure characteristics.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    The problem with "breeders" of designer crossbreeds is that their motivation is almost always profit. They are not looking to improve the breed, as reputable breeders are. They are generally greedy and looking to cash in on the current trend of designer dogs.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Most people who ask this sort of question already have their minds made up anyway.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Quote Originally Posted by GroovyGroomer777 View Post
    Most people who ask this sort of question already have their minds made up anyway.
    Very true. Unfortunately.

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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Quote Originally Posted by myminpins View Post
    Very true. Unfortunately.

    Yup that is why the little gifs you posted are very perfect in this thread. It is a brick wall that we are facing here.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    don't get us wrong, here, jatom....nobody has any problems w/ the mutts...they make awesome pets and everything.....the problem we have w/ mutts is the people that intentionally breed them, stamp "designer" names on them and ask exhorbant prices on them.....and then there are the people that "buy" into it (and i'm not saying that you are being gullible and thinking you are getting a purebred dog, but there are some out there that are convinced that they are indeed a new breed).....w/ a mix of anything, it's any ones guess as to what you will get in the characteristics.....they could go Shih Tzu, Bichon or Poodle (altho, i was always told that the "Teddy Bear" was a cross between only Shih and Bichon).....

    but, if you check out the HS or rescues, i'm sure you would find a "Teddy Bear" that is in need of a home just as bad....at a fraction of the cost and you're not lining someones pocketbook all b/c they see the "almighty dollar" in these babies.....

    that said, i know 2 and they are as different in personalities as night and day....and neither one is one i would want to own....(probably the owners fault there)
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Everyone in this thread already summed up how I feel.

    You have to ask yourself, jatom, what is this breeder trying to do with her dogs? The mark of a good breeder is one who is trying to improve the breed in some way. Conforming to the breed standard AND producing dogs who are not only of exceptional lines, but are also proven in some area. A breeder who is crossing three breeds is doing none of those things. They are creating a dog who essentially has no new or unique purpose.

    I have been in the business of grooming, boarding and breeding small dogs for 25+ years.
    Anyone could say this. Nowhere are there titles listed or special accomplishments. A puppymiller could say the same thing.

    Many times I have heard people say the same things over and over. "All we want is a little dog that doesn't shed, is not hyper, has a brain (trainable), is lower maintenance than the longhair toys, not so yippy, not so one personish, doesn't pee when you reach for it, not a digger or chewer, good with children, etc".
    That already exists, for the most part, in a pug. Even a well trained Westie fits that bill.

    Another breeder may attempt to do this, but all my breeding boys and girls are hand picked and raised to produce the cutest, the smartest, the flirtiest, the most baby faced, etc.
    That's all she's producing for.. looks. Not the mark of a good breeder in my opinion. If everyone bred dogs that they thought were cute, we'd have an overpopulation problem. ... oh wait, we already do.

    Nowhere on the website do I see names or pictures of the parents of the puppies. I do not see anything about health and/or temperament testing. I do not see any titles on any dogs.

    I know you're dead set on this but hey, you asked about the breeder, nowhere did I mention a shelter or rescue. If you want to buy from a breeder, buy from one who works with one breed, one who flaunts the fact that they test their dogs for various things, one who has no problem showing you the parents and most of all one who insists you give the dog back to them if something should go wrong.
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    Re: Teddy Bear Dog Breeder Question

    Quote Originally Posted by jatom View Post
    Also, do you have any insight into the characteristics of this type of mixed breed?
    Breeding dogs isn't like mixing paint, where you know that so much red and so much white makes pink. Dealing with mixes of 3 breeds is like taking 3 colors and throwing them together at random. There is no consistency on what you will end up with.

    She seems like a very personable person who knows how to market herself. But being nice and a good businesswoman doesn't make you responsible.

    If you want to spend big money on a puppy that is a total genetic crapshoot and is no better quality and has no more guarantee of health and good temperament than any other small mix you can get for under $100 at a shelter, well, it's your money.
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