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    Question about my german shepherd

    Hello, last year I went to a trainer and he said that my puppy was a mixed breen german shepherd / belgian melamine. I have not heard of a belgian melamine. I have attached an image of my dog, any suggestions if the type of breed is correct?
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    Quote Originally Posted by nfoman View Post
    Hello, last year I went to a trainer and he said that my puppy was a mixed breen german shepherd / belgian melamine. I have not heard of a belgian melamine. I have attached an image of my dog, any suggestions if the type of breed is correct?
    The correct breed name is Belgian Malinois.
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    HE probably said Belgian Malinois. I've never seen a brindle German Sheppard but I think that your dog is stunning

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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    the brindle colour in the GSD is a (almost) extinct colour....i don't believe it is even acceptable in the ring but being as i don't show i don't know for certain....a friend/mentor i had when i had my GSD that i did show told me of 2 pups that she had produced in 2 separate litters (same sire/different dams, 1/2 sisters) that were brindles, very much like this one...obviously from recessives in all 3 dogs....

    i found this on line:
    Rare or Possibly Extinct Colors and Patterns in the GSD
    Colors and patterns no longer existing in the breed-to my knowledge,include the blue merle and the brindle. Brindle is considered to be dominant over the agouti pattern, and if this is true, it would have been easy to eliminate the pattern from the breed, either intentionally or unintentionally. Unlike recessives, a dominant genetic color or pattern is either visible or not present at all in that individual. If anyone has photos and pedigrees of these GSDs, either historical or contemporary, please contribute the data to this research.

    and this:
    10. Brindle B&T
    I can't resist mentioning the brindle, which was one of the founding patterns of the breed and seems to have become extinct. The brindling gene affected the tan ground, so that B&T's and bicolours showed a dark striping or marbling (the same effect seen in brindle boxers) over the tan which was not at all unattractive. I wouldn't hazard to guess what a brindle marked sable would look like. Hopefully, if the pattern somehow reappeared, it would not be discarded as atypical.

    (if you want to see the pic of this one go here:
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    Quote Originally Posted by nfoman View Post
    Hello, last year I went to a trainer and he said that my puppy was a mixed breen german shepherd / belgian melamine. I have not heard of a belgian melamine. I have attached an image of my dog, any suggestions if the type of breed is correct?
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    I've seen some really really dark sables that look similiar to your dog. They're very stunning. You are lucky.


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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    Quote Originally Posted by tirluc View Post
    (if you want to see the pic of this one go here:
    http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard...&_Pigment.html
    The link isn't working for me, but here's the picture incase it's not working for others.

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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    thanx, animalcracker, i couldn't get the pic up.....
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    From what I read on various websites the Malinois does not come in brindle, but the Dutch shepherd does. Also they are different breeds and the Dutch shepherd is becoming increasingly popular especially with police units.

    Belgian Malinois

    Dutch Shepherd


    The website that tirlic linked to has lots of great info on the GSD and everything related to them, including pictures and factiods about related breeds. http://www.shawlein.com/ Even if your not into GSD's it's quite a good read thru!

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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    I have added another picture to get a better view. Thank you for the replies.
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    how about a standing pic?...got any?.....that would also help alot
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    Certainly looks like a Dutch Shepherd to me. If it is, it probably does have the brains to match the looks.

    Here are a couple pics of my dutchie for comparison, he was 5 months old in them:

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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    From the best I can tell in the photos, your dog does structurally resemble the Dutch Shepherd more than the German Shepherd. The German Shepherd is a bit longer than tall, and has more angulation front and rear than the Dutch Shepherd.

    Attached are photos of a sable brindle German Shepherd puppy, a descendant of the original brindle bicolor pictured below the sable brindle. The brindle mutation reappeared in the breed a few years ago and I was fortunate enough to have the first brindle, the bicolor brindle pictured below the sable, in my possession for a time. Due to having to relocate, not knowing if I would be able to breed GSD again, and not wanting to deprive the breed of the brindle gene, I let her breeder keep her so she could be used for breeding until I was in a situation more suited to breeding again. She has a number of brindle progeny and descendants. DNA testing confirmed that she and her progeny were definitely brindle GSDs, supposedly the first confirmed recurrence of brindle in the breed in 80 years.
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    I'd say it's a Dutchie or GSD Dutchie mix...I don't see Malinois at all.
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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    This if funny bc I'm considering adopting a dog at a shelter that they think is a dutch shepard mix. I just went and met her today and she seems like a great dog!!

    http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/dis...petid=13445962

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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    It occurs to me that a Belgian Melamine would be VERY easy to take care of!


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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    Quote Originally Posted by Toby4Life View Post
    This if funny bc I'm considering adopting a dog at a shelter that they think is a dutch shepard mix. I just went and met her today and she seems like a great dog!!

    http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/dis...petid=13445962

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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    If it was up to me, I'd probably be taking Piper home today. Unfortunately, my SO will be the one home with her all day and she would rather not get a dog that hyper. We are still discussing, but I think Cinder may be a better fit for everyone.

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    Re: Question about my german shepherd

    Quote Originally Posted by FilleBelle View Post
    It occurs to me that a Belgian Melamine would be VERY easy to take care of!
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