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    Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    This is long, so bear with me.

    It's in the wee hours of the morning here, I've been back to my room and back to bed all night. About 24 hours ago now, my dog started to act very strangely (i.e. peeing on the floor, pooping on the floor when she's been potty trained for a very long time now, and a little bit of vomit through the house.)

    My dad and I have been joking about her being pregnant for quite sometime now, but now it seems like it's happening. She did gain weight, but we didn't pay it much attention because she had previous weight problems. Her nipples did hang a bit. So yesterday I was home alone all day with my dog who was groaning and whining all day and I didn't have a phone or anything so no way of contacting my parents. She had thrown up about maybe 28 hours ago now at first, she stopped about 24 hours ago (so threw up a number of times for four hours.) She never really complains but she's been doing it a lot this past day or so.

    My mom is a previous dog breeder of these dogs (Shetland Sheepdogs aka Shelties) and she figured last night when she came home, yeah okay she is pregnant (we have a male too we bought about a year back for this purpose exactly and two months ago or so they did try, and no we're not evil and we'd never abandon or sell to a home we didn't think was capable of it; so no even with these problems we wont be spaying/neutering them) anyway, our male is a bit on the undersized and my mom didn't think he'd be capable of impregnating a bigger dog, well now my mom is saying "Oh geez! I guess it is happening."

    But these past 12 hours we've kept her in a sort of whelping area my mom and I had set up really quickly (in my walk-in closet in my room, definitely big enough!) and we put out the newspapers, old blankets...etc. She's been having this odd behavior for 24 hours or so but she also started to let out a little bit of discharge about 12 hours ago that isn't bright red, but a watery-blood like discharge. I've been told this is normal from my mom, but I'm wondering if she's saying that just to assure me nothing is wrong (this is my dog here, and I love this girl to death.)

    We really can't afford a trip to the vet for another week or so because this was totally unexpected, don't take my words wrong here, (it isn't unwelcome) but right now it kills me to watch my baby sit in my closet moping around (I've given her vanilla ice cream every 4 hours or so and stayed up and read with her which she enjoyed and nudged me to play, so everything there seemed fine) she does keep licking "down there" and she keeps wrestling with those blankets (which I'm having to shift back into place every hour or so.)

    Well is the behavior normal, or am I overreacting about it all? Could there be a possibility she isn't pregnant even though when I feel her abdomen there's a quite obvious lump and it's hard and such which I've been reading online is another sign. Please do not bombard me with the whole "you should have spayed her! Your poor dog!" because in case you didn't notice it's a bit too late for that and I already said my mom wouldn't do it.

    To add on, she is panting a bit and I've been giving her water, it isn't possible another male could have done it and I'm 15 years old. It's been about 10 years since my mom last bred a dog, but she isn't inexperienced at all. This isn't a nightmare to me, do not get me wrong! It's just bad timing

    @ Mods: I apologize severely if this is in the wrong section!

    edit; I just went into my room to look at her, she changed positions a bit to laying down on her side, she normally sleeps like this, but I've been told that this is also the way she gives birth? Just something that may strike your importance. :P
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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    @ Mods: I apologize severely if this is in the wrong section!
    The section this is posted to is the least of the problems.

    If this is all "unexpected" and you can't afford vet care, the dog should have been spayed before any of this happened.

    Your dog needs professional care - not random advice from a bunch of strangers on an Internet forum. My every instinct is to close this thread, for your own protection, but my experience here is that people don't want protection and they don't want advice. They want affirmation.

    Good luck.
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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    ^^^ What he said.

    "Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance.
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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    Ditto for me...What Ron said. Irresponsible all around.


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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    ***I'll be nice-soley for th epossibility that this member might get the advice she needs and follow it before something bad happens to her dog***

    The dog needs to go to the vet. The vomiting-is not right. Just laying on her side-is not right. She should be panting heavily and nesting-meaning digging, turning and constantly fluffing her balnkets in her whelping area.

    If a labor starts, and lasts 12 hours with no puppy being born-that is not right.

    This dog has GOT TO go to the vet. Call the vet and tell them the situation. Take the dog, then after treatment tell them you forgot your checkbook at home. They can bill you.

    In all reality I sure hope you can get her to the vet, because Im not confident enough to tell you that this is sounding good.

    Then, have your dang dog spayed. No money for healthcare-pregnant dog or not-your family have no business breeding.

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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    they obviously bought the male with the intention of becoming irresponsible breeders and now here they are....

    we are obviously dealing with a kid here because she talks about her mom and dad in the house....

    she has good reason to be worried. They bought the male deliberately "for this purpose" as she states....

    if they don't have the money to go to a vet then they shouldn't ..... well you know.....

    the world doesn't need another irresponsible backyard breeder. they won't get any affirmation from me..... I feel badly because if this is a kid.... think of what they are learning from their parents who use dogs as a means of making money.....
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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    What we need to remember though is this situation has nothing to do with the kid. All of the decisions were her parents'. The kid is honestly concerned about her canine companion. She needs advice that is helpful not lectures. If you want to inform her about why backyard breeding is bad, inform her in a way that she is more likely to listen to. She can't do anything about her mom's breeding but you can teach her for her own future sake.

    Please get your mom to take her to a vet. Even though I don't have a lot of money when any of my kids, furry or not, need something the money comes from somewhere and I make deals with whoever it was I owed the money to. Beg your parents to find the money, for your dog's sake. Good luck.
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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    Get to the vet and if you can't afford the care then contact your local ASPCA or animal control they will take animals and see that they receive the care that is required..They will come to your home and pick them up or they can give you advice on the closest rescue/shelter/vet that can and will

    I will not even go on my rant about irresponsible breeders/animal owners..
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    Re: Shetland sheepdog, pregnant or not?

    MistRiver, you have put us all in an impossible situation.

    The 15-year-old has no responsibility for the situation? Okay, I can buy that, but that means that no advice offered here will do any good at all. The only possible advice that is useful is to get the dog to the vet ASAP.

    If that is not an option, we might as well close this thread right now because any other suggestions will only add to the damage already done.

    It is unreasonable to expect a bunch of dog-lovers to avoid expressing frustration.
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