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    Breed bite measured by PSI

    My husband found this video last night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jhrxy0HKs

    It kind of blows the Pit Bulls have the strongest jaws or 1300 or 1800 PSI myth out of the water.

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    That link was posted on my thread "pit bulls have locking jaws". It was a very good video and I love to show it to people (along with wallacethepitbull), but everyone I have tryed to change their minds about pit bulls have locking jaws still believe pit bills jaws lock. They dont want to accept the truth, its way more easy to believe their jaws lock for them I guess.
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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Not a scientific test, therefore results cannot be conclusive

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    I watched a show on the Animal Planet, I'm pretty sure I tivo'd it, that was the most accurate test done. It wasn't just dogs though, they did a Rottweiler, Alligator, Wolf, some kinds of shark etc etc.

    It stated that the most PSI of ANY dog is around 350, and that's SchH and FR sport trained dogs, that do bite work, almost on a daily basis.

    The wolf actually had a higher PSI than any breed of dog tested. Somewhere around 400-450 I think...

    They used a bite plate, now there will never be a 100% sure fire way to determine PSI of any species, as we can never determine if the animal is trully biting down to their full ability, but come on people! Use your common sense!

    A DOG has the equivalent PSI of a Great White Shark? I think not LOL

    sillykitty - Sometimes I think those people are just better off, written off! You can't educate everyone, some people just don't want to believe the truth like you said. It's easier for them to just stick to pitbulls have locking jaws and they can bite as hard as Great Whites I'm pretty sure they also still believe the eart is flat!

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by MayaTheLab View Post
    Not a scientific test, therefore results cannot be conclusive
    This is true but its good enough or is it not for you? I think that at least 25 individuals of the same breeds should have been tested for more accurate results. However I fail to see how after watching this video people can actually still believe that Pit Bulls have a 1300-1800 PSI or have the PSI equivalent to crocodiles (which was about 2000+ when measured). I mean come on that is ridiculous!!!!

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    Alpha- I think I saw that show, too! And weren't most of the bites that they were getting from the wolves only like 200 because the wolf they were using didn't want to bite? They had to get a different wolf and torture THAT wolf for hours before they got a decent bite!

    I was suprised though that the wolf and the sharks were only like 100 apart! I would have figured a shark could bite harder then that O.o But then again they don't have to because of how sharp their teeth are! The parrot was my favorite, though, because compaired to his body mass he could bite HARD!! And I know that's true about parrots because MINE bites hard!

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Hardly an accurate test.
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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicy1_VV View Post
    This is true but its good enough or is it not for you?
    good enough for what?

    I don't trust pit bulls or rottweilers as far as I can throw them, makes no difference how powerful their bite is. These 2 types have been bred for certain characteristics which make them poor choices for family companionship.

    from wikipedia: These caveats notwithstanding, a CDC study detailing dog bite related fatalities in the US between 1979 and 1998 reveals that roughly one-third were caused by Pit Bull type dogs. The highest number of attacks (118) were by Pit Bull type dogs, the next highest being Rottweilers at 67. The full report can be accessed at: http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by MayaTheLab View Post
    good enough for what?

    I don't trust pit bulls or rottweilers as far as I can throw them, makes no difference how powerful their bite is. These 2 types have been bred for certain characteristics which make them poor choices for family companionship.

    from wikipedia: These caveats notwithstanding, a CDC study detailing dog bite related fatalities in the US between 1979 and 1998 reveals that roughly one-third were caused by Pit Bull type dogs. The highest number of attacks (118) were by Pit Bull type dogs, the next highest being Rottweilers at 67. The full report can be accessed at: http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

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    Thank God the over 100 Rottweilers that I have dealt with through rescue and owned myself or trained did not read that report. I would really be in trouble. As would all of the people in the Nursing homes, Hospitals, Children's centers that they have been in doing Therapy work. I am so glad that Therapy dogs international didn't hold out on registering my dogs with them. Maya, just so you know it is also a fact that the CDC does not support any Breed Specific Legislation and that many of the bites recorded were mix breed dogs that resembled the breeds in question. It is also a fact that because of the over population of Labrador Retrievers (over breeding) that Humane Societies are being flooded with them as well. How long do you think it will be before the numbers of bites by retrievers starts climbing? Oh, and I had Rotties for well over 25 years. Actually 28 if I count a mix. In all of those years with the breed and saving many of them from horrid situations. I never had the "mean one" that I keep reading about. Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe they are really great dogs and some poor individuals are just in crappy homes. Just to try to balance the scales I wonder how many Search and rescue Pits and Rotts have saved How many lives. How many lives have been touched by these breeds in a positive manner through Therapy work, or Service dogs. Also, Rottweilers were originally breed as Drovers, not drug house guards. Yup, that is right, they were used to herd cattle and pull carts to market. My dogs have all been wonderful family dogs. I can't imagine a breed more perfect for a family dog. In the right home.


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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    I don't trust pit bulls or rottweilers as far as I can throw them, makes no difference how powerful their bite is. These 2 types have been bred for certain characteristics which make them poor choices for family companionship.
    I'm sorry, but what an awful statement to make

    I hate it when people make such rash comments.. especially on a DOG FORUM, where there is clearly going to be someone, like myself, that owns a APBT as well as a mixed Rott.

    What an awful statement to make

    I think before people make such rude comments, they should do some research. In my town, Labrador Retrievers were the number one breed for biting small children of the family.

    Now, I'm not as ridiculous as to say: Labs are evil, awful dogs that I would never trust around kids. Even though the statistics are there, that prove just that.

    But MY BRAIN thinks, and it goes somewhat like this: The labs are old the kids are young. The owners get married, and get a dog. Don't train it, just what a cute puppy. THen a few years down the road they have a kid... the kid gets old enough to poke the older, grumpy dog and the dog bites them...

    My APBT is FANTASTIC with my niece and nephew. If you knew anything about the breed, you would know that they are EXCELLENT family dogs because of their high pain tolerance (kids pulling at their whiskers doesn't really bother them) and their love of people.

    Being breedist on a dog site...

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by Inga View Post
    Just to try to balance the scales I wonder how many Search and rescue Pits and Rotts have saved How many lives. How many lives have been touched by these breeds in a positive manner through Therapy work, or Service dogs.
    I saw a 9/11 book in a book store recognizing a bunch of search and rescue dogs for their great work during that time. I searched and looked through the whole book looking for a pit bull because I knew many pit bulls helped search. I couldnt find 1, not even 1! They just picked a bunch of Labradors (about 75% were) Golden Retrievers, a few Border Collies, a Doberman and a Rottweiler. I was very sad to see that.
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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Now, I'm not as ridiculous as to say: Labs are evil, awful dogs that I would never trust around kids. Even though the statistics are there, that prove just that.
    So the statistics in your town prove that labs are evil, awful dogs?

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by MayaTheLab View Post
    good enough for what?

    I don't trust pit bulls or rottweilers as far as I can throw them, makes no difference how powerful their bite is. These 2 types have been bred for certain characteristics which make them poor choices for family companionship.

    from wikipedia: These caveats notwithstanding, a CDC study detailing dog bite related fatalities in the US between 1979 and 1998 reveals that roughly one-third were caused by Pit Bull type dogs. The highest number of attacks (118) were by Pit Bull type dogs, the next highest being Rottweilers at 67. The full report can be accessed at: http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf
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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    I don't get it, why should posting FACTS either "embarass" me or construe an "awful" statement?

    FACT: Pitbull types and rottweilers cause more injuries and fatalities than any other types of dogs.

    OPINION: I don't trust either breeds.

    Why should I feel bad about forming my opinions based on facts?

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    I heard a statistic a couple years ago that more reported dog bites are caused by Golden Retrievers than any other single breed.

    Based on that information, I think Goldens should be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonE View Post
    I heard a statistic a couple years ago that more reported dog bites are caused by Golden Retrievers than any other single breed.

    Based on that information, I think Goldens should be banned.
    post the link.

    sounds like "I heard it from my cousin's brother-in-law's niece twice removed"

    and who is calling for a ban? I just don't trust em.

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    I don't get it, why should posting FACTS either "embarass" me or construe an "awful" statement?
    How is this a fact....

    I don't trust pit bulls or rottweilers as far as I can throw them, makes no difference how powerful their bite is. These 2 types have been bred for certain characteristics which make them poor choices for family companionship.
    And actually, the way APBTs were bred (culling the dogs that bit people) makes them wonderful family dogs if they are handled responsibly, and the same goes for Rotweillers. Before you go running your mouth why don't you research the history of these breeds? You sound completely ignorant to me....

    MayaTheLab, where are you getting these "facts" from.....
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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by MayaTheLab View Post
    FACT: Pitbull types and rottweilers cause more injuries and fatalities than any other types of dogs.

    OPINION: I don't trust either breeds.

    Why should I feel bad about forming my opinions based on facts?
    Actually that statement is only partially true. Rotties and "pit bull type" dogs were responsible for 60% of the fatalities from dog bites during that time. There is no way to accurately track bites, becuase there has never been any type of standard to reporting them. I don't think the CDC even tracks bites anymore. What you would probably find would be similar to what Alpha said, more lab or lab mixes involved in bites or attacks than anything. But that's to be expected considering the lab is still the most popular breed in America, and a large percentage of mixed dogs are considered lab mixes.

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    Re: Breed bite measured by PSI

    Quote Originally Posted by the-tenth View Post
    Actually that statement is only partially true. Rotties and "pit bull type" dogs were responsible for 60% of the fatalities from dog bites during that time.
    yes that is correct. In addition to the statistics I've seen, I've been around plenty of dogs of all types and just don't have a good feeling about either breed. You know what- I don't really trust small dogs either, you know- the ones with "little man syndrome". Why should I feel bad about the way I feel?

    BTW, I see a difference between a bite and a fatality. Most bites I'm sure are not the dog being aggressive, just protecting themself. However when an animal kills a person that is a different story.

    Chill out and don't take it personally, I'm sure your pits and rotts are very nice or you wouldn't have them.
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