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    ptsd service dogs?

    can anyone tell me about them? (Post traumatic stress)

    A recent arrest that involved a woman breaking down over her leaving her dog in the car, then later bringing the dog with her to court has me curious. Are they to accompany the patient at al times, as needed, same privileges as say, a hearing service dog, or more for therapy?
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    Re: ptsd service dogs?

    I think, but am not 100% sure, that this would fall under a category called "emotional support dogs" or something similar. I believe that they do NOT have the same exact legal privileges as service dogs but have more privileges than a pet dog.

    Here is a bit of information about the differences.

    ETA: Here is another link.

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    In order to qualify as a service dog the dog must perform three tasks for the owner. Most dogs used for mental illness related purpose are not able to perform any tasks.
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    Re: ptsd service dogs?

    It's not a subject that I know a ton on but this site has a lot of information about Psychiatric Service Dogs.

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    Thanks for the info-- as I am trying to train Sadie for a companion dog for me, hoping for her to become a therapy dog later on. Thanks for the sites, they explained a lot for me.
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    Re: ptsd service dogs?

    Quote Originally Posted by cshellenberger View Post
    In order to qualify as a service dog the dog must perform three tasks for the owner. Most dogs used for mental illness related purpose are not able to perform any tasks.
    Many don't perform tasks other than just being there. However, the two local service dog groups do train PTSD dogs to perform legitimate tasks. In fact, one of the pit bull stories out of Denver involved a veteran with PTSD whose service dog was taken away for approximately eight months while he fought the city. His dog would remind him to take meds, alert him to rooms with ceiling fans in them, alert him to very crowded rooms, etc. His dog was eventually given back to him thanks to the Americans with Disabilities Act.

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    Thanks , I wasn't sure if they only performed emotional support or actually alerted to anything. One of the guys in training had a woman he referred to me, but I don't see mals or dutchies being a breed of choice for this at all, though I really didn't discuss it much. I am pretty fast to advise against these breeds.

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    There are legit service dogs for sufferers of PTSD, yes. Psychiatric service dogs have all the rights of any other service dog, but as mentioned above, if the dog is not performed to actually DO something for the handler that is directly related to their disability, they are not a service dog.
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    Yes, PTSD Service Dogs have every right as a guide dog does, 24/7 time with their handler. My service dog is for something silimar as ptsd and she has full rights to EVERYWHERE public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xeph View Post
    There are legit service dogs for sufferers of PTSD, yes. Psychiatric service dogs have all the rights of any other service dog, but as mentioned above, if the dog is not performed to actually DO something for the handler that is directly related to their disability, they are not a service dog.
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    Re: ptsd service dogs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xeph View Post
    There are legit service dogs for sufferers of PTSD, yes. Psychiatric service dogs have all the rights of any other service dog, but as mentioned above, if the dog is not performed to actually DO something for the handler that is directly related to their disability, they are not a service dog.
    This. I have a service dog for PTSD, and if they aren't trained to do something (be it a task or "work"), they are an emotional support animal and do not have public access rights like service dogs do.

    Stay FAR away from the site linked, Psychiatric Service Dog Society. Check out http://iaadp.org/ instead. PSDS...well, I won't get into it on here, but if you want to know more, feel free to PM me.

    Carla- The 3 tasks is a guideline, but good info! My dog is trained to do over 30. Some dogs (such as medical alert dogs, for example), only provide one thing, which is the alert. They are still 100% legitimate. With PSDS, you're right, most of the members there don't train their dogs to do anything...and are known as "huggers" (people with a legitimate disability, but their dogs are not trained to do anything for that disability) or "fakers" (no disability, just like to bring their dogs places and break the law :P). PSDS aside, most Psychiatric Service Dog handlers do indeed have dogs trained to do tasks, so your statement of "Most dogs used for mental illness related purpose are not able to perform any tasks." is a little uncalled for.
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    Re: ptsd service dogs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julee and Embyr View Post
    This. I have a service dog for PTSD, and if they aren't trained to do something (be it a task or "work"), they are an emotional support animal and do not have public access rights like service dogs do.

    Stay FAR away from the site linked, Psychiatric Service Dog Society. Check out http://iaadp.org/ instead. PSDS...well, I won't get into it on here, but if you want to know more, feel free to PM me.

    Carla- The 3 tasks is a guideline, but good info! My dog is trained to do over 30. Some dogs (such as medical alert dogs, for example), only provide one thing, which is the alert. They are still 100% legitimate. With PSDS, you're right, most of the members there don't train their dogs to do anything...and are known as "huggers" (people with a legitimate disability, but their dogs are not trained to do anything for that disability) or "fakers" (no disability, just like to bring their dogs places and break the law :P). PSDS aside, most Psychiatric Service Dog handlers do indeed have dogs trained to do tasks, so your statement of "Most dogs used for mental illness related purpose are not able to perform any tasks." is a little uncalled for.
    Thank you julee. So for this purpose, do you feel an extreme high energy dog would fit the role of a dog like you would need? I wouldn't imagine so yet if it is emotional support. With a very active owner, or even to use maybe for flyball, or what have you. What type of tasks doesyour dog assist you with?

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    Re: ptsd service dogs?

    My dog, Embyr, is extremely high energy. It depends on the person. I need that high energy dog to kick my butt and get me out of bed every morning. I do agility, flyball, dock dogs, etc with my girl.

    She does a lot, I have more than one disability. PTSD related stuff includes: bringing me back from flashbacks, alerting and responding to panic attacks/mania, leading me through stores (I get disoriented easily), notifying me when someone comes up behind me, waking me from nightmares, leading me to people, exits, cars, etc...the list goes on.
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    SEK Some Like It Hot "Embyr" - PSD
    SEK Pretty Young Thing "Copper"
    SEK Shadow of a Hero "Shadow"

    Training:
    UP Two Minutes For Ruffing "Deke"
    UP Bloofish "Bloo"

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