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    Anti-Bark Devices - Do Any Work?

    Ok so I dont really have a HUGE barking issue with my dogs, the occasional bark here or there in the house during play time or when someone comes to door - no big deal, they obey to a quite command usually in these cases.

    The issue I am having is Thumper, my 7 month old, outside in the yard. He has a very high-pitched bark, and most often then not, the other dogs that continuously bark in the neighborhood set him off, and no matter what I say, he will not listen. If he's mid bark and i say "quiet!" he stops, but as soon as I go back inside he starts again.

    I do not just leave him outside to bark his head off, believe me, I do bring him in once he's done his business, but my biggest concern is the mornings, I have two young families without dogs on either side of me, and Thumper will (sometimes) start barking the second I let him out for his morning pee at 6:30 am, the nieghbors usually aren't yet up at this time and I am afraid that he could be disturbing them - although they haven't complained about it. I can hear the dogs barking down the block from my bedroom, so I can only imagine with Thumpers really loud annoying bark what they hear.

    Training methods seem to work okay inside the house, but in the yard its a different scenario and I do not want to waste any more time on subjecting my neighbors to the early morning or late evening barking, whether its consistent or not, I'm just trying to be respectful.

    Has anyone had any success with any kind of bark control devices? I've read reviews for the most part they are a waste of money. I'd prefer something that is used strictly outdoors as I do not have a barking problem in the house so much. But if a collar works better (although I'm not too fond of this idea) than the outdoor devices, I'd be willing to try as long as they aren't painful or stressful to the dog.

    Any recommendations or suggestions are greatly appreciated

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    ok, so i have a little boy with a big high-pitched voice, i swear it is from being fixed to early (LOL), so i can relate. but even more so, the not so little boy down the street has an even higher and bigger voice has a really big barking issue. i will tell you that he has a bark collar and just totally ignores it. on all settings. we had an issue with barking and got one of the bark birdhouses (petsmart) and it DID NOT WORK. in fact it just made it worse, he barked...the thing goes off...he barks at the thing. i solved the morning issue with a walk, we only have about 1 or 2 barks when first out the door at 5 in the morning, and then spent time working on the barking in the afternoons...chase game with barking and then stopping all of a sudden and getting a sit or something with a quiet.

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    Anti barking devices are cruel, electric collars hurt no matter what anyone says.
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    Be louder then them, not alittle bit louder alot louder.
    At first they will bark after the first 'quiet' but you come right back at them with another quiet.

    Barking is the way they talk, but there is 'rude' barking like the door for example.

    When interupting your dogs stand infront of them, get their full attention.

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    I used a citonella collar that has a button for a beeping tone, that you press, after you tell him "quiet", then if the dog doesn't stop barking, you press the button for the spray. I only had to spray it twice to make him stop barking just with the tone, then only had to do that a couple of times, before he stopped barking on command. I like that I can teach him to stop, just by my voice instead of the collars that just shock/spray if they bark. That doesn't seem to really teach them anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stacey101 View Post
    Anti barking devices are cruel, electric collars hurt no matter what anyone says.
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    Be louder then them, not alittle bit louder alot louder.
    At first they will bark after the first 'quiet' but you come right back at them with another quiet.

    Barking is the way they talk, but there is 'rude' barking like the door for example.

    When interupting your dogs stand infront of them, get their full attention.
    I agree with you, unfortunately, my approach here is to be "quiet" - I am already trying the interrupting approach, being louder, getting in his face, etc. so far it has not worked to the extent I want, I agree it is helping slightly, but I feel almost as if I am scaring him, and now to the point where he doesn't want to come in on command where he used to. Also, me yelling or using a higher voice than his... at 6:30 in the morning, isn't helping my neighbor situation much is it?

    I do appreciate the input though, however.. this method is not working for me. I have no problems with his barking, I do understand it is how a dog communicates. I just want to 'inhibit' it slightly especially in the early mornings and late in the evenings (when we get home from a party at 3 am and let him out and the nieghors are sleeping). I dont want to create more noise by yelling "QUIET!" every time he barks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spotted nikes View Post
    I used a citonella collar that has a button for a beeping tone, that you press, after you tell him "quiet", then if the dog doesn't stop barking, you press the button for the spray. I only had to spray it twice to make him stop barking just with the tone, then only had to do that a couple of times, before he stopped barking on command. I like that I can teach him to stop, just by my voice instead of the collars that just shock/spray if they bark. That doesn't seem to really teach them anything.
    I saw your post on another thread regarding this device and I was hoping to see more success with this one as I've heard better reviews about it from others as well.

    I just want to see what my options are.

    Thanks for the input

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    I had a zap barking collar on my girl when she was younger, she only had to have it on for a few months, and the odd reminder, she got zapped a few times and learnt quick that problem barking was not on. The collar i had did not zap straight away, it would beep a warning 1st, if she continued she got a quick zap correction, which you could set to the strength needed for that particular dog. She no longer wears the collar, its not required.

    I know the people who have her litter sister and she is an absolute horror with barking, they have had numerous complaints from the counci and neighbours. I did not want my girl to get to that stage, and thankfully she didnt. Debarking was something i wanted to avoid at all costs.

    As for the collar, i put it on myself just to see what its like, i put it on the highest setting, yep it bites, but it gives you a fright more than hurts. My kids had a lot of fun holding onto the prongs while the other 'zapped' lol, much giggles (strange kids *L*). So as for pain pain pain, yeah not so convinced its as bad as people think

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    I've had the best luck with "interrupting the behavior."
    Although I don't live in a house I do live in a very full apartment complex with a patio. On a nice day I will open the patio door and let the girls come and go as they please (there is a 4.5 ft fence). My Siberian feels the dire need to whine/bark and screech at every little thing that might even think about occurring outside.
    To stop this -
    Every time she made a noise I would give her a sharp "eh."
    If she continued it was back inside for 20 or so seconds. Then she had to sit and I would open the door again.
    Any more noise and we would repeat it.
    They now stop making noise at "eh" or don't make it at all.

    To do this for a morning potty break you would need to start earlier o you could be consistent and not be rushed for time. Neither of my girls have the personality for a shock/spray collar. I think both would cower in fear and not be able to figure out what was "attacking" them. Neither i think would be able to respond to the collar.

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    Do the neighbour dogs bark at other times during the day? What type of bark is your pup doing...an Alert bark, fear bark, just joining in bark? You can always teach the dog that the bark means go do something else...similar to training "doorbell means go get a toy so you don't bark your head off at the visitor". Changing the emotion behind the bark may reduce the responses to the neighbour dog barking. This would require for you to be out there with the pup though, at least while training is going on.

    I would personally not use a punishment based training method, especially on a seven month old dog, their temperaments are delicate and changeable especially during the first year of their lives..
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    Our ACD mix is a huge barker, she looooves to bark, she barks about everything and she has the most annoying voice on the planet. She's 13 now, and we've never been able to fix it..."interrupting" her just makes her "shout over" us. She doesn't care about a citronella collar at all, the whole yard will smell like citronella (no mosquitoes at least) and she could care less.

    I get up at 5:30am...WAY too early to let her bark outside. So, I take her out on a leash and tell her "quiet" and stay right with her, I can manage her this way and avoid waking the neighbors. It would be easier to just let her out while I start getting ready for work, but it's just not something I can do with this dog.

    Our neighbor puts her little yappers out in the yard and they bark their heads off while she's in the shower. I'm usually up before she is, but it's incredibly rude of her to do that, not all the neighbors are up that early.

    I'm so glad you are thinking of your neighbors! I don't know what to tell you though, I've never solved the problem other than accompanying Mrs. Big Mouth on her morning rounds.

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    The zap collar was on my girl from around 6months, has changed her in not one way, she is still her happy go lucky, love everyone bouncy self *LOL* She is now 3 1/2yrs, has not had to have a bark collar for ages now. Worked for my girl, every dog is different though.

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    I know a lot of people do not like the bark collars but when your dog barks when you are not there to quiet them, I see nothing wrong in using them. It is not as if they are constantly being shocked by the collar. Susie knows when the collar is on that she is not supposed to bark, whether the batteries are dead or not, she does not bark when it is on.

    I very seldom use it but we have a lot of deer around and she will bark at them during the night so if she does not want to sleep in the house, I will put it on her at night, rather than bother the neighbors as dogs are not allowed to bark at night. During the day a simple, Quiet, and she stops barking.

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    Have you used a jar with pennies? You could keep it behind your back and shake it when he barks and then praise him for being quiet. I've had one dog in my dog walking days who barked his head off because he was alone at home all the time and the owner bought a shock collar. The dog became a very fearful dog within weeks and started snapping at people who approached him. So the one experience I had with it was very negative.

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    I don't care for the spray type, I think they are unfair to the dog. Spray yourself with smelly perfume ten times, does it matter if you're sprayed again? Can't get away from the smell which would bother dogs too.

    The barking collars, if used properly, work very well, almost always within five minutes or so the dog has it figured out. The main thing to do is to make sure it's fitted well on the dog, not loose, not left on all the time. Set it on a lower setting at first and move it up if you need to (some do that anyway, but some you adjust the settings on). Do NOT put the other dogs out with the barking collar dog at first, let him figure out it isn't the other dogs doing anything to him, and don't use it off leash or anything at first.

    Storee had to have one when she was younger as she's a talker (don't call a dog 'Storee' and expect them to not tell stories), she still has her moments but is much better thanks to a week or so with the barking collar on. I liked not having to be the one to correct/distract her (she was just as happy to bark if it meant I'd call her in and give her a treat for 'no barking'), in fact I didn't have to be the 'bad guy' at all about it, she got to spend more time outside because she wasn't barking at every living thing constantly. Now if she's having a barking kinda day, I put it on, not charged or on, and she remembers to keep her thoughts to herself.

    If you put it on too high at first the dog can freak out about it, and if you or other dogs are nearby, the dog can sometimes think it's you or the other dog causing the corrections, so it's best to put them outside or whatever by themselves so they can figure it out. Also depends on the dog, if they're totally soft then it's usually not really needed anyway (if a 'HEY' from the back door works and the dog quits...).

    Storee happens to be much tougher about some things....

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    I'm not sure the citronella spray hangs around. . .I thought it only sprayed into the air? IDK. If it does linger like perfume, well, ugh.

    I know that bark collars don't always work, because there are 3 dogs on my mail route that prove that. They all have dramatic responses to the zap (one screams like a little girl, one spasms like she's being electrocuted, one growls and spins around trying to bite the collar off), but all 3 still bark their heads off ("bark, bark, bark, scream!" It's a little freaky). And there's one who is quiet when his battery is good, but I can always tell when the battery dies, LOL. But for all I know there are 20 more dogs wearing bark collars for whom they work great which is why I don't know about them .

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    Wow thanks people lots of great input and suggestions here. I'm really stuck, and yes I'm hesitant to try any kind of device on a 7 month old just yet, and its not as if I have a major problem on my hands. My neighbors seem forgiving as they haven't said anything about the barking..YET. But I'm the kind of person that wants to do whatever I can to keep peace with my neighborhood.

    This morning was really bad, I think Thumper is going through a "phase" because the barking is getting worse. Its dark, quite and no one outside at 6:30 in the morning but Thumper zips out and starts what seemed to be a very panicky type bark...I dont take him out first thing in the morning my boyfriend does, but I haven't heard him bark so profusely so early in the morning.. usually its a yap here, yap there... stop pee.. yap yap again... until he comes inside. But this morning he was definitely ranting about something. I didn't hear any other dogs barking and the nieghbors weren't out. When I put him out before I left for work, I heard the neighbor dog a few doors down crying.. it was a low but high pitched whine that I could barely hear but Thumper picked up on it immediately and started barking his head off, I "quited" him and decided to put on my jacket and slippers and stand on the deck to quite him each time he barked, but sure enough, he barked each time the dog a few doors down "whined". The dog almost sounded like he was in distress or not very pleased about being left outside in the yard in cold temps. There's a shepherd a few doors down aswell whos chained up and barks quite a bit. So really anything could be setting him off. He will bark at the neighbors kids playing in the yard, or the nieghbor leaving the house walking to the garage. Anything really. and the intensity of the barks vary.

    My older dog does not bark what so ever, occasionally, but not often but we had a situation happen to us a few months ago, my boyfriend and I were sitting in the living room on a Friday night watching a movie, both dogs curled up on the couch with us asleep, peaceful, quite, then suddenly BOOM! Our front door flies open and half a dozen partiers carrying flats of beer barge our front door open! They got the wrong party obviously, but my boyfriend and I literally screamed and jumped up, and the dogs immediately went on attack mode. I have never seen them bark so aggresively and panick like that before, and unfortunately, ever since they've both gotten a little worse with the barking. So I believe they both may be a little more on "higher alert". That combined with Thumper being still young I really can't blame him and I dont want to "punish" him for barking, but its getting noticeably worse and I really just dont want to subject my neighbors to it or get to the point where they come over and complain, they both have two young children, they're young couples and really nice people. And I know they like my dogs and probably hear me shutting him up and making an effort to keep him quite in their respect so don't say anything to me..but still.. I have to do something quickly.

    Someone here mentioned something about the jar of pennies.. well I have a big treat bag and I usually now have to resort to shaking it to get him to come inside, but that doesn't help the barking situation, he just learns that he can go outside, bark, and I will give him a treat. I really don't want to have to resort to taking him for a "walk" on the leash twice in the mornings because I get up early as it is, my mornings are time sensitive as I take a bus to work as I have a longer commute into Edmonton, and I cant' be late or I miss the bus sorta deal. Not an excuse i know.. get up earlier and try and deal with it. I might try it for a bit, but its not fun standing outside in the freezing cold interrupting him and telling him "quite" each time he barks while he's outside, and I'm creating even more noise and no doubt my neighbors can hear me yelling at the dog too. I live in one of those shoebox neighborhoods where the houses are literally 3 ft apart, I can hear the nieghbors kids screaming in their house lol.

    I dont think using the bark collar for the purpose I want it for is cruel to him at all. I would slip it on before he goes outside, and only in the early mornings and later in the evenings.. when everyone wants "peace and quiet". He wouldn't wear it all day long or in the house or on walks. I could just only hope it may "help" deter him from barking in the yard, and eventually to the point where I don't have to use it for ever. It might be worth a try and if it doesnt work, then I guess I will have to work more consistently with teaching him to obey the "quiet" command, which I would like to still do with the collar. I'd like him to associate the "zap" to my "quiet" when he barks with it on at first, so maybe he starts to obey my "quite" a bit better and I can wean off the collar. If that doesn't sound unreasonable lol. I'm just not sure which type of collar would work best for me. I went to the pet store yesterday to look at a couple, there are a few varieties but I'm definitely taking into account what people have mentioned on here about some. I like the idea of the "remote" kind though.....

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    Many years ago, I used a bark collar on a Boxer that would fence fight. It gave a warning buzz first, then a low grade "shock". It worked to a degree and we no longer had to use the collar. She'd still bark when "necessary".

    To one of the first replies who says they are cruel and painful - I used the collar on myself before putting it on the dog and IT DID NOT HURT. It sent a vibration, not an actual burning shock. It's uncomfortable and very weird, but not painfull at all. I imagine some of the collars may be, but not this one.

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    I used an anti bark collar, and it literally corrected her in ONE DAY, less than, actually. And "IMO" she seems much happier now. She was barking 200 - 300 barks per hour, and like your dog, very high pitched. The collar I used sent a warning signal at first, and got progressively stronger. Did it hurt? I don't know. But she seems much more happy now that she isn't barking all the time. And I sure as heck know that our family and neighbors are much happier. I doubt she has barked more than once or twice a day since then, except for when she is trying to convince all the deer that she is a viscous guard dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willowy View Post
    I'm not sure the citronella spray hangs around. . .I thought it only sprayed into the air? IDK. If it does linger like perfume, well, ugh.
    The store where I bought my electronic collar said that many dogs actually like the citronella and will eat it....

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    I've also heard of dogs scratching the spray collar around to the back of their neck so it doesn't hit their face, and barking away.

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