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    min pin vs. chihuahua

    Hi, i'm new and i have owned several dogs mostly herding dogs and showed them as well my question is i recently moved and decided to leave my aussie with my parents "we have livestock and 100 acres"and it wouldent be fair to him to put him in a apartment when he is used to running free "in a fenced area" so anyway i miss haveing a dog and have been researching on the internet for months and finlley narrowed it down between the min pin and the chihuahua i found a breeder " the one i'm buying the puppy from"and she seems to think they would both be good i was wondering what everyone thought about the two breeds around children?and in general thank you.
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    You haven't bought the dog, correct? And you're just looking for opinions on the breed, correct? The reason I'm asking is because I wonder if you considered a rescue. Many rescues will temperament test their dogs and predetermine whether they are suitable for children. If you're open to adoption, and you haven't made any committments to the breeder yet, you may want to explore this option. Good luck!
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    i havent purchesd yet but i have looked at alot of rescues and most of the dogs are not sutable around children or men that is what i want to do and i told the breeder that there is a possibility that within the 4 months i may find a rescue dog or shelter dog"there are way to many dogs getting killed everday i have looked every where on the internet and local i have a young son and dont want to take chances"thats the only reason i opted to get a puppy from a breeder.all of my previous dogs where pound puppies!.if anyone finds a rescue with childern sutable dogs please let me know!!!thank you.
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    Believe me, I understand you concern, and I have to trust that you've done an exhaustive search. I just wanted to throw that out there just in case because buying from a breeder can be a tricky process in itself, and finding the right breeder should be equally exhaustive. As you know, the temparament of your breeder pup will largely be determined by the breeder, and not so much the breed. So, to me, it's imperative that you find the best breeder available.

    Nurture starts at birth...not when you finally get the puppy home. By then, it may be too late. So please find the best breeder possible. Let us know if you need help qualifying your breeder. Good luck!
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    thank you i have been searching breeder shelters and rescues for 3 month's everyday and the reason i choose this particular breeder is because she also has 4 young children that handle the puppies this is really the first time i have ever delt with a breeder so maybe you guys could help me out the website is www.prairebarkkennels.com the site is under construction but maybe you could check it out and any comments would be appreciated positive or negitive thank you
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    I dont believe either breed is generally very good with children... but if they are raised with it, they may be okay.

    My personal experience with min pins wasn't a really great one... I found them (all four) to be quite snappy, incessant barking (though perhaps that could be curbed with good training), TONS of energy and just generally not the "sweet and cuddly" kind of dog that I like. However, being a bit bigger than a Chihuahua, they may be a little more hardy.

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    when i was growing up i had a chihuhua mix and that dog was so tolernt i use to dress him in baby feetie pajamas lol thank you for your response it will help me in my final decision !!! if a chihuahua falls of the couch and hits the wrong way he can break his leg true?also i have been waching the dog whisper "i love that show" and there is alot of snippy loud min pins on there. but i think with special training i can curb the barking and sniping right? i forgot to mention both parents are show dogs the dam was a pretty good one and the lady said they are both have very good tempers "her children play with them daily" will this have a impact on thier disposition?
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    I believe this is the correct web address:
    www.prairiebarkkennel.com

    The web site you gave isn't working but if you google "prairie bark kennel" you'll find it. Surprisingly(NO!) they spelled their own name wrong in the web address.

    Please don't be offended when I say this, but you need to run as fast as you can away from this breeder. Why? The list way too many breeds, which suggests it's more of a puppy mill than a reputable breeder. They also offer "designer dogs", which is another red flag for an unethical breeder. I would be very leery of this breeder.

    My suggestion would be to contact the min pin or chihuahua clubs of America (if you're in the US), as a starting point on locating a breeder. If you're new to puppy buying, there are many things to look for. Here's a start.

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    oh my gosh never noticed i must be way to neieve thats why i asked for second opinions thank you i did go to the min pin breeders club and found some in my area but they seemed really rude when i called to ask a few questions like they didnt have time i.e rushing me off the phone is that a typical breeder. why would i get offended thank you!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    forgot to ask do think the in breed?
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    As far as training a Min Pin to not be snippy or barky, I think that's only possible to an extent. You can control the behavior, but not eliminate it completely. Basically, training isn't going to turn it into a different dog that isn't prone to being snippy and barky.

    What I recommend between the two breeds you mentioned is a longhaired Chihuahua. Everything I've heard about the breed (and from owners of them) is that the longhaired ones have much more stable, laid back temperaments than the shorthaired ones. I'd get one on the slightly larger end of the standard so that it'll be a little sturdier.
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    I would be looking at shelters for a large sized chi mix or at a breeder for a larger chi. Be careful for the chi breeders who are breeding dogs smaller than most guinea pigs. Those dogs are not healthy and not good in a house with kids. However, many good breeders will have chi's that are too big for showing, or have other minor faults making them available as pet quality dogs. Seems to me that the long haired chi's are a bit bigger (or the breeders haven't "down-sized" them for Paris Hilton types yet. Also a breeder may have a dog that is a bit older (you could skip the house training phase) that just no longer fits into their program.

    I volunteer at a shelter/animal control facility and we see a bunch of strays all the time of larger chi's.

    I would go to a dog show and see what is out there in your area. Also look on the official breed website for breeders in your area. I would not contact a breeder by email. Breeders have told me that they feel the people who are serious will contact them by phone. Those that use email are cruising many breeders, sort of kicking tires, or at least that is the perception of the breeders I know.

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    I don't know why you would be offended, but sometimes I rub people the wrong way I guess, so I just wanted to be clear.

    There could be many reasons why they rushed you off. If I had to guess (and this is purely a guess), your tone or questions may have suggested that you weren't serious about finding the right pup. If you're not well informed about the breed, and aren't convinced that a min pin or chihuahua is right for you, a reputable breeder has the right to believe their pups aren't right for you. It's not about being a snob as it is about placing the pup in the right home. And an informed owner is more likely to be given the time of day. So, in short, you may not have asked the right questions.
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    i live in colorado and there isnt alot of dog shows around are area.the only questions i asked where when they expected there next litter and how much they where.i first did contact all the breeders by phone and then the lady who runs prarie bark kennels told me to email her so thats why i emailed her.thank you guys so much in your opinion do think i'm ready for a dog i have owned dogs and showed them but for some reason i m nervous owning a indoor dog "i want everything to be perfect when i bring him/her home" i want it to be a life long companion thats why i'm asking so many questions i really appreciate you guys takeing the time to help me!!! thanks
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    The questions you asked portray a person who is just interested in purchasing a dog, perhaps with no interest in the breed itself or that particular breeder's dogs. I'm not saying that is your intent, but your questions were very "ballpark."

    Do you care if they breed for temperment? Do you care if the dogs come with a health guarantee or that the breeder will take the dog back at any time during the dog's life? Are their dogs AKC registered? Who is their vet? Do you care what the current litter parents are like? Would you like to make an appt to visit their facility and spend some time with their dogs? Are they willing to provide you with references and the contact info for other people who have their dogs?

    I'm not saying that you are in it just to get any dog. But that's how you would have come across to me, if I were a breeder. What kind of dogs did you show? If you have been around shows enough you should know how breeders feel about their dogs. Think again before making another phone call to a breeder. Word gets around fast amongst them about having gotten calls from a person asking "ballpark" questions.

    On 5/18-20 there is an all breed dog show in Cortez. It might be worth your while to make the drive and make the personal acquaintance with some min pin folks.
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    Ohhh, definitely not good that the only questions you asked were basically- when are you having puppies and how much $$. That's probably THE biggest turn off for any breeder. It makes you seem like the average Joe Schmo who has done no research and is not going to be a responsible owner...
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    I'm not sure where in CO you are, but here's some cuties on petfinder:

    Chihuahuas: http://search.petfinder.com/search/s...cope=2&x=0&y=0

    Min Pin: http://search.petfinder.com/search/s...cher&preview=1
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    I have to second Curb...there's no way in hades I'd buy a pup from the Prairie Bark kennel...it just screams of a puppy mill set up and I could never in good conscience line their pockets. No way. Remember, when dealing with legit breeders, breeding is probably not their source of income so they can be busy with family and jobs, etc....I imagine with toy breeds having smaller litters, good breeders will be very selective who they place dogs with. If the primary concern seems to be cost, that may turn them off to a potential home.

    To address the original question of min pin vs chihuahua. Personally, I'd take a min pin over a chi any day of the week. I've known more foul tempered chi's than I care to count (and been bitten by a few of them). The min pins I've known - even a couple from shelters - have always been great little dogs. We board two little min pins and they are two of my all time faves. So full of personality!
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    you can also check petharbor.com for shelters in your area
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    Re: min pin vs. chihuahua

    thanks for the info lovemygreys i went to the petsmart adoption weekend and the had a ton of grey hounds they seem like such gentle giants!!! also thank you lorina i will for sure look into those orginazations!!well the reason i didnt go into asking about temperment and gaurantee is because all the breeders i called had a web page and went through all that so i felt i did not need to ask that and the first thing i told them was i had been researching the breed for aproximently 3 months and i had visted thier site and thats where i got thier number then i proceded to ask when do you expect the next litter i'm looking for a puppy in 4 months are going to have any of your dogs whelping?they said yes and thats when i asked does color vary the price because i would prefere a black and rust and i would prefer cropped ears "min pin" and asked if they had thier vet do it or if i needed to make arrangments with my vet. do i really sound uninformed about buying a puppy? be honest thank you
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