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    The breeder has some of the top dogs in the country (Westminster dogs) and they care for their dogs and love them very much, they just aren't worked unfortunately. However, the breeder is one of the most popular Dachshund breeders in the country.

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    I know some people claim that reputable breeders can have "kennel dogs" (meaning entirely unsocialized), but for me that would put them squarely in the disreputable category. Different definitions I suppose.

    I would get a wire playpen. I think plastic and mesh are too easily chewed.
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    30 Doxies? No training, no exercise, adult dogs aren't even house trained? Not a reputable breeder by most peoples' standards.
    Agreed. It is common for people who breed working dogs to have kennels that are sometimes used. It makes things like bitches in heat around multiple intact males and just life with many dogs easier in general, BUT The ones I know, like, and would call reputable? The dogs are still trained, still exercised, still housebroken. It's a very 'crate and rotate' scenario, where everyone gets on on one time, training, exercising, socializing and the like.

    Not just... kennel or crate. That's ridiculous.

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    I would go with this: https://www.amazon.com/MidWest-Folda...+pens+for+dogs

    The ones you listed look like they would be destroyed very easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainingjunkie View Post
    I would go with this: https://www.amazon.com/MidWest-Folda...+pens+for+dogs

    The ones you listed look like they would be destroyed very easily.
    Yeah, the cloth one is very easily chewed on. Or pushed over, or clawed up. Basically, it is for well trained dogs with a good sense of boundaries who only need a reminder of location. The plastic might last longer than cloth but is smaller and not even cheaper than the wire.

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    Yeah, the cloth one is very easily chewed on. Or pushed over, or clawed up. Basically, it is for well trained dogs with a good sense of boundaries who only need a reminder of location. The plastic might last longer than cloth but is smaller and not even cheaper than the wire.
    I am ashamed to admit that I own 5 of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainingjunkie View Post
    I am ashamed to admit that I own 5 of them...
    Five of the cloth? or plastic? Or wire?

    I like the cloth for trained dogs who aren't chewers. The plastic seems unwieldy to me and not a big step up from cloth even. The wire seems infinitely useful. I'm not a full-time crate and rotate household but during foster times, it becomes something along those lines. Mostly baby gates, doors and crates so no ex-pen direct experience.

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    5 metal. We use 4 of them when we camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainingjunkie View Post
    Love it. If I camped, I would totally have (or want!) a set-up like that. Or if I had an open plan house or well, a house larger than those ex-pens probably add up to in square footage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shell View Post
    Love it. If I camped, I would totally have (or want!) a set-up like that. Or if I had an open plan house or well, a house larger than those ex-pens probably add up to in square footage
    Ha! Every year, I get my husband to go along with "just one more." I am concerned that I will not be able to sell the "one more" thing next spring! Fortunately, my mother is on my side and says she'll get me another for Christmas. My goal is to fence a large arc around the camper. I'm almost there! It's really pretty excessive...

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    My dog isn't a chewer and usually not an escape artist, but for the safety of the cats I still want something he couldn't chew through or escape if he wanted to.

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    Your question is "can my dog live in a kennel?" Yes. Your dog can and considering the height of your dog's prey drive (certainly a desirable breed trait) and the need to keep cats, that will work.

    The reality of life is that a lot of people work. I put my dogs in outdoor kennels during the day and I go to work. One of the dogs must wear an electronic bark collar. I also have indoor kennels in the furnace room of the walk out basement for inclement weather.

    When I get home I get the dogs out, exercise them and so forth. At night they are indoors. Because I have two cats and two bitches (one intact and one spayed) I have one dog crated while indoors and the other dog loose (bitches can fight savagely and to the death and it is easier to keep them separate than to deal with a fight). Both my dogs like the cats but being dogs with good prey and hunt drive, I do not ever let them alone with the cats without me there to intervene if necessary.

    Once a dog has exhibited high genetic prey drive for any animal, you would be hard pressed to retrain the dog to be reliable around that animal. That is just the way it is. The dog is hard wired and this is a breed that uses that hard wired prey drive to dive in holes and fight with rats, badgers and the like.

    Certainly you can try all the leave it training and diversion training and even resort to an electronic collar but in the end, this won't be reliable and you will never be able to have the dog with cats.

    The out door kennel, indoor crating (if you can afford an aluminum dog box or a Gorilla Crate it would be best) with being leashed in the house it can all work.

    If the dog bays and so forth outside I have no issue with an electronic bark collar. There are many that offer a warning tone first before going to a shock and there are a few that do that and start with low stim and auto escalate the stim if the dog keeps barking. A lot of people do not like it when I suggest electronic bark collars for an outdoor kenneled dog but the practical thing is that barking is a privilege, not a right and going to work and school is part of life as are neighbors who do not need to be subjected to incessant barking regardless of the reason. That is my solution. No one need to agree.

    The one thing I will caution you on.. the photo of the all wood kennel that everyone likes would not work for an aggressive chewer or a dog that develops frustration chewing. I prefer steel and always always always put a wire top on any kennel. It is amazing how well dogs can climb. I have seen videos of dogs climbing out of kennels better than cats!

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    Thanks for the response! Could you post a picture of your outdoor and indoor kennel? I'd just like to see how it' s set up for reference.

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    If the dog bays and so forth outside I have no issue with an electronic bark collar. There are many that offer a warning tone first before going to a shock and there are a few that do that and start with low stim and auto escalate the stim if the dog keeps barking. A lot of people do not like it when I suggest electronic bark collars for an outdoor kenneled dog but the practical thing is that barking is a privilege, not a right and going to work and school is part of life as are neighbors who do not need to be subjected to incessant barking regardless of the reason. That is my solution. No one need to agree.
    That's a HELL of a life for a dachshund. If that's your "solution", I'd have to question why anyone would want to acquire a dog under circumstances like this, in the first place. Good grief. It's not much more than a life of subsistence, filled with loneliness and punishment.

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    Well I already have the dachshund, but don't worry, I don't think I'd use a bark collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GSD4IPO View Post
    The dog is hard wired and this is a breed that uses that hard wired prey drive to dive in holes and fight with rats, badgers and the like.
    Your knowledge and expertise with dachshunds is minimal at best. Anyone who recommends keeping a doxie ALONE, in a run, with a shock collar on, is glaringly deficient in not only knowledge but also compassion. I'd suggest you stick to advising on breeds you know at least *something* about. There's a VAST difference between the needs of pet dachshunds vs. working GSD's.

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    I already have the dachshund, and don't worry, I know lots about dachshunds as an owner and handler, and I would not use a shock collar. I'm still trying to work out the details and do what's best for the dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GSD4IPO View Post
    A lot of people do not like it when I suggest electronic bark collars for an outdoor kenneled dog but the practical thing is that barking is a privilege, not a right and going to work and school is part of life as are neighbors who do not need to be subjected to incessant barking regardless of the reason. That is my solution. No one need to agree.
    One more point and then I'm pretty much done. You do realize that dachshunds are "hard wired" as you say, to bark ? In their case it definitely IS a right. It's part of their genetic makeup, and for good and practical reasons, at least when considering working doxies.

    \ done.

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    Yeah, I don't really agree with that user (3GSD4IPO) either, petpeeve.

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