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    Question Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    We are thinking of getting a beagle puppy for our kids for Christmas. Right now we're trying to find a place that the puppy can stay until the 27th until we're able to give the puppy to the kids. We are flying to Florida for 1 week from the 20-27th so we aren't able to take the puppy during that time so thought it best to have someone care for the puppy until we return. I am wondering what the best way to help the puppy adjust to us would be?? Should we get him or her right away and get him/her used to us until we leave on the 20th and at that time have someone else watch him/her??? Or should we just have someone else watch him/her until the 27th? What will be the least amount of stress for this new puppy. It's a pretty new puppy...very tiny yet, but unsure how old he/she is. They are being kept outside at their current owners (in a shed) so they're scared they might freeze to death when it gets cold up here in MN so want to unload asap. Please Help!

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    Well, the best idea would be for it to stay with momma until the 27th, but since momma is stuck outside, that might not be the best solution.

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    I know ideally I wish I could do that. But will have to try and think of the next best option instead I guess.

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    Get dog from a different breeder, flexible enough for you to take it home when you are settled in your house after that 20-27 trip,in vacations, and fully commited to only the pup?

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    I would also like to suggest you do two things:

    1.) NOT buy from this breeder (they are what is known as Back Yard Breeders because a caring breeder would not have these puppies out in a shed, would not sell you a puppy for Christmas and would be asking you more questions than you are asking them.

    2.) NOT get a puppy for Christams. There is just too much going on. Kids are getting toys and the tree is up and there are wires for the lights and a LOT of things. A puppy needs your attention and with all that Christams thing going on you cannot truly give it.

    3.) Just like love.. if it is for real, waiting is not an issue. Wait and find a reputable breeder, get the puppy when he is over 8 weeks old (10 is better) and be SURE you want a breed that can be very vocal (barks and bays a LOT) and is VERY high energy requiring walking for at LEAST an hour a day (in addition to training, feeding, house breaking and the rest). With a little research you might even decide to settle on a different breed.

    When I was little, our first dog was a beagle bought from a BYB much like the one you are considering buying this puppy from. My parents knew nothing. In the end, even tho Wags lived to be 14, I have to say that a Beagle was the WRONG dog to get. The bought him because my sister had been misdiagnosed with leukemia (this was more than 50 years ago). It was the wrong thing to do.. maybe right reasons but the wrong thing to do.

    Beagle puppies are way cute. I know. I really really know this. Puppies only are puppies for about 6months and then they become dogs. Puppyhood is very very short.

    You have to do a LOT of training and be prepared to have this dog on a leash when ever you walk him and a really well fenced area for him. You need a crate and learn how to crate train your new puppy/dog so they are housebroken.

    Please back out of this deal and wait until you find a good breeder and no distractions (like Christmas) so the dog can be focused on.

    BTW How old are your children?

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    Elana55 has some great points for you. We had thought about a Christmas puppy too but thought the logistics and planning would be too much. Also, like Elana55 said, that is a pretty stressful time of year to get one. From what I read, lots of reputable breeders will make sure they don't have any puppies at that time of year. My puppy was raised in the breeders house with her parents and littermates and lots of love. They were let outside to go to the bathroom. I can really tell how much this has helped her. It has made her housetraining much easier, I think, then if she was raised in a shed. I think puppies need that loving and she definitely gives it back to us. She lays on us quite a bit.

    I remember this fall when we were camping, we went for a hike and my 2 BIL's had their dogs. One is a mini schnauzer (which is what we got) and the other is a border collie mix. We came across a beagle and it barked barked barked. He commented that is why he didn't want a beagle. They are darn cute but I wouldn't be able to handle lots of barking. So far so good with Allie. Today we went for a walk at lunch and about 4 different dogs barked at her but not a sound from her. She does bark some when she tries to get our male cat to play with her and that is fine.

    One other point, we are in KY and got our puppy before Thanksgiving. Some days it is really cold out and hard to have to go out with the puppy to go to the bathroom. Nights can be even worse. I can't imagine what it would be like in MN. You might want to think about springtime. If I had thought that part through, I might have waited but I would never go back now. Allie is so sweet.

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    I agree with everything Elana said.

    If you're set on giving your kids a puppy for Christmas, why don't you get them a stuffed Beagle toy? I'm not being a jerk here, just hear me out.

    Get them a stuffed Beagle toy and tell them that they'll actually be getting a real one. Then you can involve the kids in the whole process, and you'll have a little bit of time for all of the chaos to disperse from Christmas. You guys can all go together to breeders, the shelter, whatever, and choose a puppy together. They'll like the excitement of it, there's just something about getting your own puppy.

    If you wanted to you could really take the time to educate them about finding a good breeder--show them websites, explain why this is a good breeder or a bad breeder, etc.

    Take some time to educate them! It'll benefit them in the end.

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    How about giving your kids a "puppy basket" with a stuffed puppy, leash, goodies, etc., and then they will have the excitement of picking out a puppy.
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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    Those are both great ideas. I had forgotten that part of our thinking was we wanted the kids to be involved in picking out the puppy and be excited about it. We were worried that between the 2 we were thinking of, Allie and Callie, one daughter would pick one and one would pick the other. Surprisingly, they both picked the same one. Miracles will never cease. When I got home after driving 5 hours each way to get Allie, there was a note from my oldest saying I was the best dad and thanks for going to get Allie.

    Also, my wife found 2 miniature schnauzer stuffed animals that will be showing up at Christmas. She said they look a lot like Allie.

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    I volunteer at a shelter, have always had dogs, and foster many dogs each year. Please do not get this dog.

    As Elena has already mentioned...this breeder is all wrong. You may be paying for something that is going to cost you tons more to get healthy. A good breeder doesn't keep dogs outside in the winter. Christmas...post-Christmas and spring puppy season are the two busiest intake times at the shelter. It is an unrealistic expectation that you can give this dog the proper supervision and welcoming to your home when 1) you are going to be away most of the Christmas school break, 2) there are zillions of things around the house during the holiday times that could harm your untrained dog 3) no one in the house wants to stand outside to house train the dog every two hours 24/7. Give the gift of a gift certificate and the promise to involve the kids as you visit dog shows, meet reputable breeders, and then go to visit the breeder's facility/home to find "just the right" puppy and the right breed for your family.

    Consider that a puppy has to go outside every 2 hours 24/7, 365. Invest in a good alarm clock and buy some warm clothes for standing outside 15-20 minutes every two hours even during the night. Personally, I'd rather train a dog during the spring or summer rather than in the dead of winter in MN.

    This puppy mentioned could also cost you a lot financially. Pups whelped in outdoor conditions are likely to have respiratory illnesses, carrying parasites (that humans can contract, children especially with their hands always in their mouths), malnourished, and most likely not seen by a vet before being sold. Add this to the regular cost of the first year vet bills (Vet visits $40 each x 5-6, shots $30-50 x 4 plus rabies, spay/neuter $150-500, microchip $30-75, heartworm testing and meds, stool checks, ...) plus all the new dog supplies (bowls, bed, crate, leash/collar, quality food, treats, obedience classes, ...) easily $1000 and then some in addition to the actual cost of the dog itself.

    Also, have you done your homework on the breed? This is not a breed that is interested in being a lap dog, hanging around with you, staying by your side, jumping in the car to go to the kids' soccer game, taking along to run unleashed on a hike. This is a breed that needs an incredibly secure yard...6' fence, concrete or wire for 12" under the fence line, lots of attention and hours of training, complete supervision until it proves reliable, commitment to mental and physical exercise outside the yard a coupld of times every day (dogs escape because the yard is boring after the first couple of days) but always on a leash.

    The first two beagles I fostered... One ripped off a kitchen cabinet door and ate almost a full bag of kibble, while I went to the end of the road to retrieve our mail, not gone longer than 10 minutes. Beagles are incredibly food oriented and will do anything to eat themselves into oblivion. This little adventure cost us a vet visit and an overnight stay at the clinic for observation. The second beagle I fostered, an adult so I trusted him being out of my sight around the house, scratched a window until he could slide it open, destroyed a metal screen to get out, jumped out the window to land 8' below, and then scaled a 6' fence to escape the yard.

    Our neighbor's kids insist on a beagle. They are on their third one in 4 years. One got killed crossing the road, another was never found, and this third one is constantly roaming the neighborhood while they are gone during the day.

    Beagles are turned in routinely at our shelter because they are hounds...that means they dig uncontrollably, follow the scent with their nose for miles (across traffic highways, through fields, miles away before they realize they are lost) and don't care if you are calling them, will do anything to get to food, are master escape artists, and have a voice that is rare to most other breeds...baying, barking, and howling 24/7 in some cases. This really makes them an unsuitable breed for new owners.

    With hours of training and several 6-week obedience sessions I have seen some wonderful results. But these owners bought dogs from reputable breeders, dogs were screened for health and temperment by professionals, and the owners dedicated the time and energy EVERY DAY to training their beagles. These dogs became respectably well-behaved at about three years old. Somehow I think the kids are going to give up way before 3 years.

    Please re-think your choices.
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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    They are leaving the pups out in a shed....in MN...in WINTER?!!

    I'm in SW Michigan and the highs right now are 30 degrees...20 with the windchill. That is almost inhumane to leave a "tiny puppy" out in those temps....

    I'd probably report this "breeder" instead of supporting them.
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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    Do what the above posters said about an actual gift to open on Christmas. Sometime in mid-January, pay a visit to a local shelter. The shelters by us almost always have beagles. let your kids pick out their dog. I also do not recommend a puppy in the winter. Trust me, housetraining at 3 in the morning in the snow is no fun. Look for a pup that is 8 months to a year. You still get the puppy energy without some major training issues.

    Please report the breeder. Those pups and their mama are in danger. How would you like to be stuck outside this time of year?

    Good luck!

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    RUN, don't walk away from this very bad back-yard breeder. Good grief, leaving an adult dog out in a shed is bad enough, but tiny puppies just makes me sick. Do the dogs a favor and call the Humane Society/law enforcement to report this abuse!

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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    I agree, for the sake of Beagles everywhere, forget the idea of buying from this breeder. It's just not a good situation on the whole. I know Beagle puppies are ten different kinds of cute but they are by no means an uncommon breed. Skip this opportunity and take one from the RIGHT breeder at the RIGHT time.
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    Re: Beagle Puppy for Christmas

    If y'all will notice, the OP hasn't come back..
    Probably didn't like the suggestion to back out of the deal if at all possible....

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