I just purchased an APRI shiba puppy. She's registered with America's Pet Registry, Inc. Both of her parents come from a champion bloodlines. Can I get her registered with AKC. What's a difference between the 2? Is AKC more reputable?
first off, we're talking about 2 different breeds of horses......you want to run your Quarter horse against a Thoroughbred....go right ahead.....this would be like putting your Labrador into a herding trial w/ all the BC's.....i don't know for sure, as i don't do horse showing, but isn't there shows for all breeds of horses to compete in (Dressage, Western/English Showmanship, Jump, cutting comp.,etc)....i don't think these are open to ONLY specific breeds of horses....Well I am sure you have hear of THe Kentucky Derby and the other triple crown races. Well those are only for TB horses that are 3yo. and registed with the Jocky Club.
Does that make the AQHA less of a registry? They can not run at any of the Triple crown races so by what you are saying is that one is better then the other b/c one has some big show/race on TV and everyone knows about it and the other does not.
i can't think of any registry that is based on colour......and the performance events are not based on any breed of dog, it's usually put up by a breed/dog club for that event (agility, flyball, obedience, rally-o, etc)To the same there are registry who only register based on Color, some associations/registries are bases solly on a given performance event. Some of these events are offered in several differnt registries yet one is considered more lagit then others. Does this make the other less of a registry b/c the particapants do not like it or think much of it?
and APHA was started b/c the Paint is a different breed entirely (colour breed) from the QH.....yes the QH can be a Paint and be dual reg. (APHA and AQHA) same as the Arab can't be reg as a QH but can be dual reg as APHA and Arab (if it is a Paint), nor the Morgan, etc. but, and all you horse people out there correct me if i'm wrong, but most of these can be dual reg. in both colour and breed registries.....am i right?APHA was started b/c AQHA would not register AHQA horses with too much white. Does this make APHA a fake registry and no good? Does this make APHA registerd horses junk?
The APRI registry has been known to be the registry of choice for puppy millers and back yard breeders. And APRI does not lists standards for their animals. Therefore, the quality of their animals is below what anyone knowledgeable would consider quality, and deserving to be bred. What you may be missing is this...unless the dog is an excellent example of the standard (the AKC standard), it should not be bred, because you are not breeding for the betterment of the breed. Why produce sub-quality dogs? Furthermore, there are way too many dogs sitting in shelters without homes, and you do not want to add to, or take away homes from these deserving animals. Therefore, it's my opinion that it would be in your best interest, for both you and the dog, to have her spayed. But, love her like she was the greatest dog on earth...she really doesn't care what papers she has, she just cares for your love.Hi I am new to the forum so I am hoping to learn something
So...I just learned that our new puppy Cookie our Miniature Schnauzer has APRI papers and not AKC- I was mislead and feel awful about that. Our puppy is just adorable though and the vet says she is in perfect health so I have to wonder about all the postings on this forum. Some said have a dog spayed because she is not AKC? I am confused about that statement. She can't/shouldn't ever have a litter because she doesn't belong to the better of the two organizations? If we don't plan to have a show dog (and are okay with that)and assume her puppies won't be show dogs (and are okay with that too) then why would we have her spayed? Am I missing something?
Elsa is a product of a puppy mill. She's now almost 2, healthy, and spayed. There's no way for me or even someone with a health guarantee for their dog to be able to predict if she will be sick tomorrow or later in the future. This is something every dog owner must consider when getting a dog regardless. Therefore, if your dog is healthy now, be happy, and love her regardless of what her future may hold. I would hope, and you should too, that your dog will live a happy and healthy life for no other reason than because you're there. So enjoy this dog as you would any loved pet.How will I be able to tell if she is going to be a sickly pup? Are they any signs I should be watching for? She doesn't have a cough or anything obvious now.
http://www.akc.org/about/depts/investigations.cfmAKC doesn't really check.They just count on the integrity of the breeder.
No, I actually think the "breeder" is not reputable. But in it's current state, the AKC does not have the power to verify all breeders are reputable. So if you're point is that you should know that a breeder who calls their boxers "white boxers" isn't a reputable breeder, I would agree with you. But to point fingers at the AKC, I would say is not the appropriate place to point fingers. You would be closer to the target by pointing fingers at the individual/specific breed clubs, but the responsibility still remains on the breeders...where it should be. It would be nice if the AKC could act as a governing agency to control breeding practices, but I don't see that happening anytime soon, although they are making efforts to organize information better. Regardless, AKC papers mean nothing without all the other checks necessary in finding a pup...to that point I agree. However, to claim they are entirely worthless based on one anecdotal example, I'd say is hasty. As a registry of registries, The AKC is the best we have here in the states, with very few exceptions, and APRI is definitely not an exception.I will reiterate from my initial post, AKC never should have allowed a white boxer to be registered...yet, I had a boxer with AKC registration and his pedigree named a WHITE boxer in his ancestry. Anyone who knows Boxers, knows that all white boxers are disqualifications for AKC registration. Had they done their homework instead of just issuing papers, they'd have realized they registered a boxer that never should have been. What then? You still think they are reputable?? I surely don't.
Care to give any anecdotal evidence on how you're perfect? Or do you have a plan on how the AKC can give guarantees, or how and why they should interfere in the customer/breeder transaction? Because if you're point is that the AKC is "phoney" because of one obvious anecdotal example of an error without proof of intention, I still contend that's hasty, and will remain as such.Hogwash! They WERE responsible for allowing papers on a dog that was clearly written on the pedigree as WHITE, a disqualification. The breeder was very irresponsible, I agree, but AKC was just as irresponsible for allowing these papers to go through. If they don't regulate, they are just as phoney as the other pet registries that are being dis-counted. That was my point and will remain as such.
I can agree with these points..."IF" they handled every registration with an intention this way it would be a problem. Regardless, the reponsibility still remains between the breeder/customer...period. And I whole heartedly agree that everyone should proceed with caution when buying any dog. As it always seems to come down to this: Where good dogs come from. - Dog Forums - all breed dog forum.You have no way of ever knowing that this is just ONE error. How many dogs do they register each day, week, month...or year??!! If they handle them all the way they handled this one, god help us all. We'll all have been had. LMAO!!!
Proceed with caution when purchasing a pet from ANYWHERE and proceed with caution when papering your dog...AKC or otherwise!