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    New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    Hi, I just got a French Bulldog puppy from a reputable breeder. He was the runt of the litter so it is to be expected he is a little behind in his development. He is by far the smallest puppy in the litter.

    My main concern comes from the breeder yesterday letting me know I am welcome to select a different puppy because she is mildly worried about my little guys walk. He walks like he is drunk, crosses his legs and falls a fair amount but gets right back up and keeps walking. It appear his legs are longer than a normal Frenchie and he is still growing into them. I have included a few videos to give everyone a sense of what his walk looks like.

    Is there anyone else who has experienced a puppy, especially a runt taking a little extra time to learn to walk and run. She has had the vet check him out and said everything was normal and was told he will eventually get the hang of it. I would like a second opinion to be reassured that this is not a internal issue or something I will have to be worried about long term (future disabilities and vet bills).

    Any and all help is welcome as I just want to make sure I will not have problems down the road and do not mind being extra patient with his development as long as I know it is only temporary.

    I have ruled out bow legged and Wobblers syndrome but could be wrong. He is currently 9 weeks and I take him home in a week. The breeder said 4 weeks ago he could barely even walk and had to do a little physical thearpy to bring his front legs in from going way out to going straight under his body.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ry86...ature=youtu.be
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iXnT...ature=youtu.be
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFJGl...ature=youtu.be

    also here is a photo of him sitting with his legs out instead of directly under him. http://imgur.com/pBYaqOa

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    You should take him to the vet. I'm amazed the breeder didn't.
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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    The pup is only 9 weeks old, so I don't think there is anything to be worried about yet. Give him a little time. To me, he just looks like a very tiny little guy who is still getting used to getting his legs working for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayota View Post
    You should take him to the vet. I'm amazed the breeder didn't.
    The OP said the vet checked him out and said everything is fine. The pup is a runt, so I wouldn't be too surprised that he takes longer than his littermates to get the mechanics down.
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    Thanks for the quick responses. I am planning on getting my own vet to check him out before I finalize the sale. The breeder said he is a normal pup. The bigger ones pick on him when in the playpen. He watches tv, is very passive and polite about food. He even picks on the klef lip puppy from another little since this is the only puppy smaller than him. So really besides the goofy little walk and timidness from being the little guy he seems completely normal.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    I thought I read the post thoroughly but I guess not.. Sorry!
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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    Hm, so he's still at the breeder's house? And the breeder has said that you could take a different puppy instead?

    Honestly, in your place I would probably take the breeder up on the offer of a different puppy, just in case. If you haven't taken this little guy home yet, you haven't had time to really bond with him. Frenchies are so prone to health issues in the first place that I'd want to go with the healthiest, most problem-free pup I could find.

    If you're set on this guy, though, wait a week (or even longer if you can), and also get your own vet to give a second opinion, like you're planning to. Who knows, there may be a big difference between weeks nine and 10.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    Ehhhhhh that makes me nervous.
    Runt or not, pup or not, that's some pretty intense wobbling
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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    I have been in touch with the breeder for 3 weeks now. I have been back to visit since leaving my deposit and have spent I'd say 10-15 hours with him. He has the exact personality I was looking for when I first began looking for a pup.

    Are there any vets on here who could take a look at the video and sitting stance.

    So say I take him to my own vet how much can they really tell?
    If they give me the answer of he seems normal just needs a little extra time learning to walk. Do I have to just assume that a professional opinion is probably 90% accurate and hope for the best.

    Now I don't care if my pup isn't the fastest or most coordinated I just want to make sure this is something that will likely work itself out and not cause me a lifetime of vet visits.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    Are there any vets on here who could take a look at the video and sitting stance.

    So say I take him to my own vet how much can they really tell?
    Much more than the vets here at DF, who can't observe the puppy in person and actually put their hands on him.

    If you're genuinely worried about a lifetime of vet visits, it's usually not the best idea to get a runt with problems in the first place, especially one of a breed that's not the healthiest breed around anyway.

    I don't mean to discourage you! I understand falling in love with a specific puppy. If I were in your position and REALLY wanted that pup, I'd probably ask the breeder to hold it for a few more weeks, and get it seen by my vet then.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crantastic View Post
    Much more than the vets here at DF, who can't observe the puppy in person and actually put their hands on him.

    If you're genuinely worried about a lifetime of vet visits, it's usually not the best idea to get a runt with problems in the first place, especially one of a breed that's not the healthiest breed around anyway.

    I don't mean to discourage you! I understand falling in love with a specific puppy. If I were in your position and REALLY wanted that pup, I'd probably ask the breeder to hold it for a few more weeks, and get it seen by my vet then.

    I was planning on picking it up at week 10. If I were to get another pup I would ask to wait for the next litter as I did not care for the personality of remaining guys esp when everytime I have gone the random people who have passed by on the way to the breeders art gallery has always commented on my little guy making me want him even more.

    So far from everyones response I am at about the same position as I was when I came here. For now it seems like it is what it is.

    I guess I was mostly looking for another dog owner and or vet who has seen this in a runt/or normal puppy where all they needed was a few extra weeks to figure things out. Compared to the other frechie puppies his legs are def longer and according to the breeder he couldn't quite walk until week 4 which is behind schedule from what I understand. So it appears hes getting there just at his own pace which makes me love him even more. I walked around with him yesterday and while I had his attention to walk in my direction he didn't seem to have any limitations besides a few wipe outs.

    Again much thanks to anyone who has taken the time to look at the videos.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    taking the opposite side here
    Manna was a runt as well and wobbled like that (sometimes worse) till ~15 weeks but the vet cleared her from day 1 and still clears her (x-rays) long after she found her feet.

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    Runts usually have more health issues and that breed is more prone to issues. I don't recommend getting a runt or a breed prone to serious issues unless you are confident that you will have enough for all the expensive medical bills and be emotionally stable enough for a possible shorter life.
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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming View Post
    taking the opposite side here
    Manna was a runt as well and wobbled like that (sometimes worse) till ~15 weeks but the vet cleared her from day 1 and still clears her (x-rays) long after she found her feet.

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    Runts usually have more health issues and that breed is more prone to issues. I don't recommend getting a runt or a breed prone to serious issues unless you are confident that you will have enough for all the expensive medical bills and be emotionally stable enough for a possible shorter life.
    Thank you Flaming for your insight.

    I've done a decent amount of research and a healthy runt has just as much of a chance to live a long and healthy life as the rest of the little depending on the reason it is a runt. The dog uterus is in a Y shape and 1 puppy had 1 side all to himself as the rest were on the other side with my guy at the bottom. I have read that if this is the case it will likely lead a healthy life and that it just needs some time to catch up.

    I currently live with a 3 year old boxer who was the runt of his litter and he ended up being the biggest and is amazing in every other way. Best personality on a dog I have come across....besides his obsession with finding new ways into the garbage no matter what we do.

    I went the route of paying more for a Frenchie to avoid future health issues as this comes from a great breeder with a line of healthy frenchies. We originally agreed on $4,000. The others in the litter are 5.000-8,000. I chose to do this over paying 2,000 from a lesser breeder esp since a friend of mine paid 1800 and has had a decent amount of genetic issues. With this one I was able to see past generations as well as the mom and dad. Does anyone think it is out of the question to ask for a 1,000 dollar or more discount to compensate any vet visits I may have to make or is it not typical to negotiate with the breeder (i have been present when others have tried to pick my guy first however). My plan is to get pet insurance which is $40 a month which I am glad to do to stay away from having to drop 5,000 if any issues arise and being stuck in a bad spot.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    What health testing did the breeder do on the parents? Does the breeder show the dogs? Also, what is the contract like? How long is the health guarantee, and does it cover a variety of issues? If you ran into big problems, would you be compensated and get to keep the puppy, or would you have to return it for a replacement or refund? (Contracts vary a lot, which is why I'm asking.)

    It does sound good of the breeder to discount the price for you. If you think they would be amenable to knocking a bit more off the price, it's worth asking!

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    I was hanging out with my pup and a few others and the breeders husband and he said they showed one of the other mothers recently and she won and they retired her 1-0 as the aren't into the whole politics and antics of showing which I get. The whole showing scene is a little absurd to me. Also went on to say they are dedicated to breeding frenchies with longer leaner bodies with tails that can wag and not an extension of the spine.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    All dog tails are an extension of the spine. Do you just mean a longer tail? Frenchies aren't a docked breed or anything.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    The dog cones with a 1 year genetic health guarantee which would offer a refund and take the dog back which would be tough to do. Also if I am unable to care for the dog I would have to offer the dog back to the breeder first . Besides that I don't believe there is anything out of the normal besides being required to use their brand name on the dogs registration.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    It was my understanding that frenchies tails are fused to their spine and could not do anything with it. These puppies are able to raise and move their tail around a bit which is also not typical for a frenchie.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    Hm, one-year guarantees are considered pretty useless because most major issues show up after the dog is an adult. Most good breeders offer a two-year or preferably a three-year guarantee (some even longer). I'm also not fond of contracts that insist you return the dog to get any compensation, because who wants to return a dog they have bonded with?

    If you are set on this pup, I agree that pet insurance is a very good idea. If the breeder is breeding for a look they like, they may be subject to kennel blindness, or be unknowingly breeding structural issues into the dogs. Even something as simple as trying to change leg length or tail length on a short-bodied dog can result in all kinds of other changes, some of which might not be good. I'm not saying that the Frenchie show standard is the be all and end all; the breed has a lot of issues caused by its structure. Breeders just have to be very careful when they mess with structure. It's a good idea to cover your bases and make sure you're ready for possible high vet bills.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    http://www.foreveryoungfrenchbulldogs.com/ this is the link to the vetenarian that my breeder works with and got her like from. On the surface seems very legitimate.

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    Re: New puppy still has awkward wobbly puppy walk at week 9.

    That is the vet's site, not your breeder's? The one big red flag I see is that she is breeding "rare" colors of Frenchies and selling them at much higher prices. Those colors are only uncommon (among good breeders) because they're disqualified by the standard; there is nothing truly special or "rare" about them. That's a money-making gimmick and nothing else. Color alone is not a reason to tack several thousand extra dollars onto the price of a pet puppy. That puppy will never be bred or shown, because it's a pet; its color is meaningless.

    Here is another page about fad colors. They do sometimes crop up in litters from good breeders, but they will always be sold on a pet contract (so never used for breeding), and for the same, or LOWER, price as acceptable colors.
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