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    Why won't you bark?!

    I have had my puppy for 3 weeks, he is about 10-11 weeks old. He is German Shepherd/Lab, he and his step sibling were found in a steel mill. I say half because me and my mom believe his 'brother', that my mom took home, is German Shepherd/Chow Chow mix. My pups mom is the Black Lab. I hope their ears will stand though! But I guess I will have to wait to see what they turn out like!

    I have never heard him bark :/
    I know he can, because he did a really low 'woof' when he was sleeping.


    I was wondering if there was a way i can get him to bark?

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Careful what you wish for.

    When we got Cubby, the 115-pound black lab, he was eerily quiet. I feared there was something wrong with him, so I got down on the floor and harassed him into barking at me.

    My family was watching from a safe distance. They report that, when Cubby had about enough of my foolishness and let loose with one of his rare, thunderous barks right in my face, my hair flew back like in the old Memorex commercials. My ears were ringing for hours. I thought there might be permanent damage. New cracks appeared in the ceiling. Babies woke up and cried two miles away. Seismographs registered in California.

    In the ten years we had him, he barked probably 20 times, and never without what he considered an excellent reason.

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    Yes you can teach your dog to bark. It's very hard to teach him not to bark afterwards. Make sure it's actually necessary before you do it, most times it's preferrable not to have a dog that barks. Most dogs just do it naturally, some dogs it is learned behavior, often taught by older dogs they are exposed to. If you need the dog to alert you when people show up at your house, and you don't have another dog to teach him to do it, you're going to have to do it yourself, and encourage your dog at the same time. Shepherds and shepherd mixes are very smart dogs, and fairly easy to train. I did actually train my dog to bark when someone came to the door, and it didn't take very long; Its more trouble to get him to stop barking after I get there. When I heard someone show up, I simply went over to my dog, and started "barking" beside him, I can't really bark so it basically came out "Barooo! Barooo!" and patting him on the side, and encouraging him when he started to make tentative sounds. If he did bark, I'd make a big deal out of it, and then reward him by opening the door to see what was there. Maybe it won't work for all dogs, but it worked for me. Once again, you won't be able to get him to stop after he's been taught to bark, I tried to make my dog's training situational to someone being at the door, but he barks when anyone walks down the sidewalk now, so make sure you really need your dog to bark before you teach him to.

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    I love quiet dogs. Gypsy, though generally quiet, will alert bark and joy bark on occasion. I discourage it because she's the kind of canine to pick up a self-rewarding, naughty habit if I let her. I fear she'd turn into the dog that you can't shut up. And I cannot stand those, unfortunately.

    My guess is your pup will find something to bark about as he ages. I'd enjoy the quiet while it lasts, personally! =) Gypsy was silent for the first couple months we had her. Her repertoire of noises grew as she matured. Nowadays, she makes all sorts of hilarious snuffles, moans, whimpers, and sighs. She's vocal, without being loud. We gave her attention for the cute stuff and ignored/redirected the barking.

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Ok I'll send you my dogs barking, and you can send me some peace and quite! Wow what I would give for a dog that doesn't bark!
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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Okay there are things I really love about his laid-backness (i mean like his non barking), He doesn't seem very interested in chasing cars for one. Unlike my sisters and brothers dogs who HAVE to come in before the mail lady comes. My previous pup got hit by the holiday mail lady D: She was only 1 yr and 6 months. So I am always wary of cars on our road. Even when i have him on a leash.

    But a FedEx guy or something came to the door and he had no reaction. Though the guy didn't knock , if he would have all the dogs would be throwin' a fit :P I don't mean he just walk in lol. I saw him and told my mom that he was there and she went outside.

    Here are pics of the rotten puppies, if anyone was interested


    Here is Zeiphy'ur (Zeffer)




    Here is Jack [the Pumpkin King]


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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Man. Those pictures ALMOST make me want a puppy. I could definitely believe Jack having some lab in him, especially in the second pic. Maybe a lab/shepherd cross? Just curious as to why your mom thinks he's part chow chow.

    I agree with others - unless alert barking is something that is very important to you, I'd enjoy the peace and quiet.

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    Just curious as to why your mom thinks he's part chow chow.
    Well he has a curly tail, though I have read that pure GSDs can have curled tails. But I was looking at a picture or a pure chow puppy, other than the color and not being as fluffy, he looked like the chow pup. Same little beady eyes too! XD



    I agree with others - unless alert barking is something that is very important to you, I'd enjoy the peace and quiet.
    Naw not that worried about it. We still have our old man dog Luke (GSD/Rott) He can be loud! :P

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    cute !!!! I would rather have a dog who never barks (because there is really nothing going on) then a dog that barks because they not smart enough to know the difference of a real threat and are barking cause they just bored. So if you want an effective alert you barking dog when something is not right, then I would let the pup be for now, still a baby, absorbing what is the day to day norm, they watching how you react. If you are confident why should they be alarmed at something. The day will come when the pup growls or physically alerts at something or someone. Then you will need to make a choice to let the pup know, it's alright to let it go, because you don't need to be alerted about it in the future,,, or it is something they should always alert you on and tell tell them good boy!!!..

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    My last dog was a little bit of a barker and it was bad when at 6 AM she saw something and had to let it know she was there. My backyard backs up to a schoolyard with some woods so there would be deer, groundhogs, rabbits and cats roaming around, when she got it in her to bark she was relentless. Now Zoey is very quiet, she does bark but infrequently which IMO is a little bit better overall.

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Quote Originally Posted by zeronightfarm View Post
    Ok I'll send you my dogs barking, and you can send me some peace and quite! Wow what I would give for a dog that doesn't bark!
    I'll be right behind you! Since kobi found his "voice", we can't shut it off! Lol
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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Those of you with children will remember the anticipation of their first words and their first steps.

    Not long after that, we pray they would just sit down and shut up for at least a little bit.

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Here are pictures of the other dogs just for the heck of it

    Bear my grandma's dog


    Family/my dads dog Lukoi (Lukey)


    Bindi my brothers dog


    My sisters dog Patches

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    My dog is a Lab-GSD mix (we think) and he has a tail that curls to the left, a purple belly, purple tongue, and extra teeth ... all traits that are similar to a Chow. But, he has a clear tongue and no Chow personality ... it's all Lab, coupled with a GSD's sharp intelligence. He is laid back like you describe your pup - although he doesn't chase cars, he does look at the people inside! And, he doesn't engage barking dogs.

    He didn't bark much, so I taught him to count ... Now, I can't close Pandora's box :-) He has very different barks for what he wants ... a bark to ask strangers to pet him, a bark to say hello to people on the street, a bark when he is ready to come back in the house after potty, and a bark when he has to go outside to potty. Each bark is unique, he learned on his own (as a method to train me?), and he's insistent when I don't react.

    Please don't train your pup to bark :-) But do socialize him as much as possible. A laid back dog is an amazing pleasure.

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    Yea. I already tried and he just sat there and looked at me haha

    But they don't have to be part chow to have some black on their tongue. Pure Golden retrievers can have blue spots

    Jack has some blue spots


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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    My pup is 5 months and I can count the number of times he's barked on one hand. He does make a whine/bark sound (too often), but does not truly bark except on very rare occasions.

    Personally, I wouldn't encourage it. You may not like what you get! Once he learns that you want him to bark, you might not be able to stop it. I grew up with barky dogs and am happy to have a quiet one now.

    If you still think you want him to bark, you can probably get it by getting him mildly frustrated. For my pup, that might mean standing on the other side of a baby gate and jumping up and down and making play movements - he can't get me, so he'll bark in frustration. These situations, and being frustrated when other dogs won't play with him, are the only times he has ever barked.

    It might just take time. I remember some of the pups in my puppy class suddenly found their voices around 4 months and then wouldn't stop barking :-)

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Lucy is a very barky dog. She barks at everything or nothing. When I first started Obedience classes with her, she barked at every dog. Now six months later, I can take her into a group of dogs and she is quiet, I think more because she has gotten more confident than anything I have done. She still barks way more than I like everywhere else.

    I thought she was bad but her younger sister Noelle, is ten times worse in some ways. She does finally settle down but first thing in the morning when she is excited, it is a steady bark. I am hoping she will improve with age. Remmy and my other dogs do not bark, or very seldom. They are not usually a barky dog at all.

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    careful what you wish for with barking lol, Happy used to be a quite dog till I taught her to bark..now she doesnt shut up, and she is a REALLY irriating bark, I can quiet her on command, but she is more then happy to start barking without any sort of command lol. while she can do some cool barking tricks(counting, raising and lowering the volume on command etc..) I really wish I hadnt taught her to bark lol
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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    I thought I heard him bark last night! I am not sure though seeing as it was pretty drown out by me doing the dishes. When I found him he was wagging his tail, he ran to buy the couch..... I think he wanted up because he wanted to play with my sisters cat XD


    My previous pup, Lilo, If we didn't get her in before sunset, she would run and be out til 3 in the morning if she didn't come back sooner.
    Our dogs (not the new puppies) don't have a fenced area, they have our whole property(10 acres). Although they don't go on a bunch of our property, they will go on some of our neighbors. The neighbors are rarely there, but we get our dogs in when they are because when they are there they are usually hunting.
    They know where not to go (like down the road) but Patches doesn't care. She has horrible recall and Stay, and they have to be inside before the mail, or else they will run after the car.

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    Re: Why won't you bark?!

    Kabota does bark, but he doesn't alert bark. I go days without hearing him bark. He doesn't care at all when people walk into my home unannounced. Except for Racist Neighbor. Kabota hates him. Kabota barks and bays and howls at Racist Neighbor every time he's outside, the entire time he's outside. At 5 am. At midnight.

    So, yeah, I have a racist alert dog.
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