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    Inside to outside Dog

    Hi everyone. I have a 2 year old lab named Ruger. He has been an inside dog from day one. My wife and I were able to put up with the hair everywhere until our son came along. Our son is now crawling around like crazy and it is non stop cleaning. We live in a small town. We would like to move him outside but he barks non stop at night if we are not out there with him. any ideas?

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    Re: Inside to outside Dog

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    Vacuum more frequently

    When you got that dog, you made a commitment to him, and though children may be important, it is highly unfair to the dog to remove him from his family because the kid started crawling.

    He barks nonstop at night because he's lonely.

    Labs are highly social dogs, and while there ARE people out there that can give their outdoor dogs proper attention, most of the time what happens is that the dog moves outside and becomes nothing more than a lawn ornament. Forgotten and ignored, because a baby showed up.

    You'll have to work even harder if the dog moves outside, because you MUST give the dog more attention, more walks, more of your time. He's a living breathing creature that needs exercise, and just as much time as your child (if not more, as the dog will never have the ability to be independent).
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    why cant you just confine him to an area of the home and then clean it once a day....

    That's what I do with my dogs, I have 3, they are allowed on the main floor only, my kids have a playroom in the basement and bedrooms upstairs are for the children to ruin lol.

    But we vacuum, clean the floors nightly, its just reality with dogs.

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    I have to agree. I know, it probably sounds harsh, especially if this is your first child. But, the dog is dependent on you for food, shelter, but, also for companionship, exercise (both mental and physical), and love.

    I agree, if you DO end up moving him outside, it will actually take MORE work because he's losing out on interaction with the family, and you have to make up for that. I mean, even if you're watching TV or on the computer, if your dog is lying next to you, or near you, he smells you, hears you, sees you. If you're like me, you might talk to him from time to time as you see him or pass by him. Gosh, I can't hardly pass by one of my dogs without giving them some love. Also, I think people have the tendency to actually do MORE training, even a quick command or two for a special treat, if the dog is in the same area.
    If your dog is outside, you'd have to make a special effort to train, snuggle, hang out with, exercise, your dog.

    Think about it, dogs pick up on our feelings and emotions. They also pick up on stress and changes in the home. You've had a new baby. The dog is probably already getting a bit less time and attention. NOW, you want to move him outside, that's likely to cause some problems.
    I foresee some behavioral issues, as he was used to being inside, then, he lost out of some attention, things changed around the house, and now he has to stay outside.


    My guess is he'll be bored, which can lead to destruction, and barking. He's also lonely, which can lead to destruction and barking.

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    Re: Inside to outside Dog

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    any ideas?
    Let him stay inside with his family.

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    I agree with what everyone else has said. Ruger has been inside with you everyday since the day he entered your life...maybe part of the barking is to remind you that you forgot him outside! He didn't have any say in whether you had a child or not, as far as he knew, HE was your baby! I have two giant double-coated breeds...that means we have LOTS of hair to deal with. It's not something that you "put up with", you recognize that it's part of having a dog, you clean up, and go on. Some days we vacuum twice a day, but it's just part of it. It's a small price to pay to have my dogs with me. They are my constant companions, and I cannot imagine tossing them out back and leaving them.
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    If you are worried about it from a health or allergies point of view, there are many studies showing that children that grow up with pets in the house are actually LESS likely to have allergies against dogs or cats.

    If you just dislike the mess, then get out the vacuum. Brush the dog daily outside. Feed fish oil supplements which can help reduce shedding some (and are good for joints too). After you do that, then just get over it. Its hair, big damn deal.

    Really, dog hair won't hurt your kid. I'm not kidding when I say that my friends and I that grew up around horses and in barns (and other animals although I never had a dog as a child) have far less colds and allergies than many of the kids whose parents sanitized them to within an inch of their lives. Anecdotal, yes, but backed by a growing number of scientific studies.

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    Re: Inside to outside Dog

    I think it would be very unfair to a dog that has always been inside to be put outside.

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    I agree with everyone here. Having outside dogs is a HUGE commitment. You would be better off taking the advice above about cleaning more or confining the dog to a certain part of the house.
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    hair wont kill your crawling baby....if its that bad where it coats the carpet then you arnt vaccuming enough in which case i would be worried about a lot of other things other than dog hair on the floor with a baby.

    another option...change the diet. labs shed a lot in general but a better diet means better skin means better coat, in turn less shedding.

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    when my son was born we had both cat and dog inside there was no way i could leave them outside so we just had to vaccum a whole lot. We also bought the powder they you put on your vaccum and let it set then vaccum it up and it loosens the hair and so your vaccum picks up alot more. Also just gotta be on top of watching your child like no tomorrow.

    it can work, it will just take alot more work then prior to having a child.


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    Me, I have a non-shedding breed of dog. My husband on the other hand sheds A LOT! Haven't locked him outside yet, though I sometimes wonder when I come to my desk to use my laptop and it looks like a Sasquatch shed all over it. Maybe I should just get him a hairnet for his birthday.

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    Re: Inside to outside Dog

    Great posts from everyone. Great insight from Doxiemom.
    I would just ad my experience with the furminator http://amzn.to/hPTCll. The brush is expensive, but it really gets out a lot of undercoat at one time.
    All you have to do is take the dog out once a day and spend about 30 minutes brushing him so most of his hair will be outside.
    Vacuuming is good to. Sticky rollers http://amzn.to/frboB1 are also useful
    You can give the dog fish oil suppliments. That might cut back on the shedding. There are also anti shedding shampoos, and other antishedding suppliments. I have no experience with the latter two.
    It's really important that the dog bond with the child or you might have some problems later.
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    I live with 4 dogs. All primarily inside dogs and I have allergies.

    Also, I just remembered this article I read a while ago:
    "According to the National Canine Research Council, or NCRC, there are two types of dogs living in the United State: resident dogs and family dogs.

    The NCRC defines a family dog as one that lives inside the home with its family. These dogs are well-socialized and learn appropriate behaviors through positive interaction with people every day. The more exposure they have to people, the less likely they will bite someone.

    NCRC says resident dogs, however, are maintained outside the home, usually in a yard or kennel or tethered on a chain. These dogs are obtained mostly for negative functions, such as guarding, fighting, protection or breeding.

    As a result, resident dogs are more likely to exhibit aggressive behaviors if someone steps into their space or if they get out of their yards. Because resident dogs live without human interactions, they can't be expected to exhibit the same manners as family dogs."
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    Re: Inside to outside Dog

    Saskatchewan does not have the proper climate to leave a dog outdoors all the time.

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    Lol! Fuzzypants!
    Great point Loki!

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    Oh, you laugh but I'm at my wit's end! He sheds 1000 hairs a day only to grow 2000 back so he can repeat the process all over again the next day. I'm tempted to vacuum his head but he'd only whine and I don't know if they make anti-whine collars for husbands.

    P.S.-Remind me to apply for patents for doggie hairnets and husband training collars. I'ma make a fortune!

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    I am with the others about keeping your dog an inside dog. I'm pretty sure there are a lot worse things on the floor other than dog hair. Honestly, with or without pets I have never let my children crawl on the floor we used everyday(I would literally give myself panic attacks thinking about what people would drag in on their feet, like dog poop, lol.). What I did was purchase an area rug that was exclusively for allowing my children to crawl on. You can pick up a nice 5'x7' for like 20 bucks. After I let my babies have floor time, I would roll it up an store it until I wanted to use it again. That worked for us, and there is no way I would ever think of making My Lil Seamus an outdoor dog. They also make those little carpets that have kids patterns on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EscVelocity View Post
    What I did was purchase an area rug that was exclusively for allowing my children to crawl on. You can pick up a nice 5'x7' for like 20 bucks. After I let my babies have floor time, I would roll it up an store it until I wanted to use it again. That worked for us, and there is no way I would ever think of making My Lil Seamus an outdoor dog. They also make those little carpets that have kids patterns on them.
    That's a brilliant idea. I'm stealing it for the next time someone asks me about this!

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    OP hasn't been back. I'm guessing he didn't like what he heard.

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    Palm>> I agree, how about a compromise? Mine are 'outside' dogs during the day but they come into the house at night die to the fact that we have coyote probs here & that that like having them with me . I couldn't imagine not having them with me, in fact I have a dog who hates kids & im even willing to postpone having kids (if we decide to at all) until she has made her journey to the bridge.

    Please do not banish your dog, as long as you clean (which I also have to do daily with 2 dogs & a fiancee lmbo) then so be it. Its just part of being a dog lover/owner. You got this dog, its your responsibility to do right by him.

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