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    Using the Flirt Pole for training

    Hi - Ive done a search and found a lot of info about using the Flirt Pole for training, especially here (Flirt Pole in Action!), but still feel a bit unsure that I'm doing it right.

    I would like to improve my Anna's ability to keep herself controlled. She tends to go over the top into hyper barking mode far too easily. How would I go about this?

    In that thread, zimandtakandgrrandmimi describes getting the dogs to wait and using the play as a reward. How do you stop the play - lift it up out of reach?
    The best way to get someone to listen to you - is to listen to them.

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    Re: Using the Flirt Pole for training

    this may not work for you but it worked for me.

    first thing you need is a drop it command where you can tell the dog to drop whatever it has in its mouth.

    you also need a solid stay.


    Work hard on those two commands. then pull out the flirt and start playing...make them work..don't let them get their mouth on it until they are panting and have burned off a decent amount of energy but are still pretty worked up. then let them tug for a second and give the drop it command. when they drop it..click and treat. tell the dog then to stay and start swinging the flirt. if they try to go for it then stop swinging and put them back in a sit or down and stay. Start swinging again. When they stay for thirty seconds..click...release the dog to play...then the play becomes the reward.

    Different dogs respond differently so you may have to adapt and break it down further.

    But if you do it well the flirt can be both reward and distraction.

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    My goal in training with the flirt was to get my dog to a point she she would listen to me while in an extremely excited state of mind. Any training thing you do you need to have an EXACT layout of what your specific goal in the exercise is.
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    Re: Using the Flirt Pole for training

    Cool thanks that helps a lot. To my surprise, they both have a solid enough sit and down stay to allow me to twirl the filrt around in front of them until I say "OK". Quite pleased about that. Pippin did break once, but I just say "eh eh" and put the flirt up until he sits again.

    What you say about the drop it command - click and treat - makes sense. I will try that.

    My main goal is to get her to not bark when she is excited, and to realise that if she barks, game stops. I played her now for quite a while before she started barking, then I just stopped completely and put the flirt away. Not sure if that will work.

    Its facinating how differently they respond to the flirt pole. Pippin immedeatly figured out that if he can get his paw on the rope, he can control it more so as soon as he gets hold of the lure, he hooks his paw over the rope and stands on it.

    Anna actually catches it much more often although she expends FAR less energy than Pippin. She stays closer to me and runs around less. But I've managed to get her excited enough to race about too.

    So far this is very promising. Its great to have another way to get them exercised apart from walking. And being able to use it to improve their training too is just perfect.
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    Re: Using the Flirt Pole for training

    From the very start I first use it to develop pray drive, but also to develop a puppy's pointing desire along with flushing on command. It is really quite easy to do, and the dog think it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Speaking of which I found that treats as rewards while doing this was a bad idea, Unless you like puppies that are to fat.
    All it takes is lifting it out of reach with a no-no when the pup gives a wrong responce.

    I was watching some JRT people using one at the fair grounds, and all I can say is "oh-man". I think I would get dizzy and fall down working those little rascals.
    Last edited by blunder; 10-04-2008 at 10:52 AM.

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    Re: Using the Flirt Pole for training

    Quote Originally Posted by blunder View Post
    From the very start I first use it to develop pray drive, but also to develop a puppy's pointing desire along with flushing on command. It is really quite easy to do, and the dog think it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Speaking of which I found that treats as rewards while doing this was a bad idea, Unless you like puppies that are to fat.
    All it takes is lifting it out of reach with a no-no when the pup gives a wrong responce.

    I was watching some JRT people using one at the fair grounds, and all I can say is "oh-man". I think I would get dizzy and fall down working those little rascals.
    treats in my case don't nessecarily mean food. For my dogs it is a rigorous butt scratch.

    Ill have to see about trying to get pics of My pit bull working with the flirt pole...lol I have gotten dizzy and fallen down once or twice...she goes REALLY fast and I have to keep up to keep the bite surface out of her mouth..

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    Re: Using the Flirt Pole for training

    You might also use a modification of the "Rev up/ Cool Down exercise at the top of the training forum.
    Carla
    "A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control" Proverbs 29:11

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    Re: Using the Flirt Pole for training

    "Speaking of which I found that treats as rewards while doing this was a bad idea, Unless you like puppies that are to fat." blunder

    Treats don't always mean food, but if you are using food you subtract what you use as treats from the dog's rations for the day so you don't end up with fat dogs.

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