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    Re: My Shih Tzu attacked me

    Sounds to me a bit like a possession issue. That bite definitally shows intent and I would highly highly suggest getting a behaviorist or trainer to help you. Fast.

    Chloe had some possession issues and would growl if she had a highly desired item and we walked by her. I nipped that in the bud and she doesn't care about me anymore. I just walk up to her now and say, "Noooooo." and she'll drop whatever she has. Then I'll body block her out of the way, pick the item up, and wah-lah.
    She knows she can push the rest of the family around, so they are just instructed to not take anything away from her (come get me or trade the object for a treat) and if she is chewing on a bone...leave her alone. When someone can figure out how to get a dog to not resource guard around people who don't give a rat's rear end about taking the time to actually work with the dog...let me know.
    Chloe would also get bitchy about being moved when she didn't want to be moved, but she's not allowed up on the furniture or beds without being invited (and then it is only on one bed) and she is kicked off at the very hint of her getting snippy.
    However, having said all of that, Chloe NEVER made contact with my skin, or anyone else for that matter. And seeing how Chloe is a nippy dog to begin with, she very well could have if she wanted to.

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    Re: My Shih Tzu attacked me

    Quote Originally Posted by Leanie View Post
    Thank you all for the concerns and responses. I have started NILF as of today and I also called the vet trainer and waiting for her to return my call, she's been in surgery. Also, I found another trainer who works with aggressive dogs but it costs $600 for 4 to 6 weeks, they keep the dog for that amount of time. I do not have that kind of money. I'm just really sad this has happened and I talked to my mother-in-law who lives with us about it and I told her WE have to do this together, before it was always ME trying to do everything. She understands now, she never would listen to me before when I'd tell her not to do something that I saw wasn't good for Ginger. I've tried NILF before but it never would do any good cause I was the only one in the home doing it. I'm very, very sad this has happened and now I look at my dog in a different way.
    Good - NILIF, when used by everyone in the household, can be very effective in a relatively short period of time.

    FWIW, I have a little Shih Tzu whom I took on originally to foster. The dog was 2 yrs. old, and spoiled rotten in terms of having things his way. Demanded attention (would growl and bark if I didn't immediately see to his hinney's demand), Barked non-stop when placed in his crate, barked at everything and everyone, got PO'd if I wanted to sit on MY sofa where he was sitting, or laying down, growling and snapping. He also jumped on me (and on my dogs, who nose poked him a good one, and verbally told him off), and would try to bite me when I would try to take a toy that was near him.

    Fast forward 3 months: No barking or growling, he goes into his crate and does not bark, he no longer barks or snaps or growls over toys/bones, he does not have furniture privileges UNLESS I give him permission (he wasn't allowed at all for 2 months), and, he's got a daily routine with structure (that includes a daily 30-minute down/stay). Best of all, that annoying, obnoxious demand for attention behavior is gone!

    Good luck to you! I can just imagine how upsetting this has been for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poodleholic View Post
    Good - NILIF, when used by everyone in the household, can be very effective in a relatively short period of time.

    FWIW, I have a little Shih Tzu whom I took on originally to foster. The dog was 2 yrs. old, and spoiled rotten in terms of having things his way. Demanded attention (would growl and bark if I didn't immediately see to his hinney's demand), Barked non-stop when placed in his crate, barked at everything and everyone, got PO'd if I wanted to sit on MY sofa where he was sitting, or laying down, growling and snapping. He also jumped on me (and on my dogs, who nose poked him a good one, and verbally told him off), and would try to bite me when I would try to take a toy that was near him.

    Fast forward 3 months: No barking or growling, he goes into his crate and does not bark, he no longer barks or snaps or growls over toys/bones, he does not have furniture privileges UNLESS I give him permission (he wasn't allowed at all for 2 months), and, he's got a daily routine with structure (that includes a daily 30-minute down/stay). Best of all, that annoying, obnoxious demand for attention behavior is gone!

    Good luck to you! I can just imagine how upsetting this has been for you.
    Thank you VERY much, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one and there is a good outcome from it. Although, my Ginger never got possessive over her toys, she'd bring them to me to play, and never got snappy about her food she does get possessive over her blankets, her puppy pad tray, and rugs in the living room. When I try to vacuum and pick those up she would actually jump and try to grab them from me and growl. I had her where she had to stay in the kitchen while I vacuumed but one day when I tried to vacuum she went nuts and I asked my mother-in-law if she had been vacuuming also and she said yes, and that she would put her in her in kennel. So all of my training her on that was gone now. The trainer called me yesterday and we talked for awhile on the phone, she told me for the next 3-4 weeks do not allow her on the furniture or beds at all. And anything she wants she has to earn it but leave her food out all day cause she doesn't eat the best. She said small dogs are finicky over food they don't eat like they should. And if she barks or whines, ignore her, don't say a word and don't look at her. Today, she has been sleeping in HER bed in the floor and hasn't tried to get on the couch. Yesterday, I kept putting her off the couch and she just sit there in the floor staring at me forever...My husband is having a hard time with this cause he likes to have her next to him to love on her and now he can't do that. Also, her allergies are so bad right now I can't take her for walks due to the pollen count being so high, so I gotta think of other ways to get her exercise indoors for now. Usually I'll run in her indoors through the house. The trainer said I have been doing everything right, it's the others haven't been doing anything. She said the counsel has spoken and Ginger has been voted off the island...lol. I said I stripped her of her crown, she's no longer Queen. I'll keep people posted with updates... she won't get depressed will she? That's our concern.

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    Good luck with all of this! I hope that the NILIF starts working it's magic!

    I look forward to hearing updates on your progress, hope your arm is feeling better too.

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    Hey... I'm a new dog owner, so obviously, take what I have to say with a grain of salt.

    With that said, I'm wondering if maybe there is something neurological going on with your dog. You said that this and other incidents have been related to her sleeping. Is it possible that she's maybe having some kind of cognitive problem or doing this without being fully aware? Just something to think about.

    Whatever the reason, this is clearly an issue that needs to be address.

    Good luck with the new trainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanie View Post
    Thank you VERY much, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one and there is a good outcome from it. Although, my Ginger never got possessive over her toys, she'd bring them to me to play, and never got snappy about her food she does get possessive over her blankets, her puppy pad tray, and rugs in the living room. When I try to vacuum and pick those up she would actually jump and try to grab them from me and growl. I had her where she had to stay in the kitchen while I vacuumed but one day when I tried to vacuum she went nuts and I asked my mother-in-law if she had been vacuuming also and she said yes, and that she would put her in her in kennel. So all of my training her on that was gone now. The trainer called me yesterday and we talked for awhile on the phone, she told me for the next 3-4 weeks do not allow her on the furniture or beds at all. And anything she wants she has to earn it but leave her food out all day cause she doesn't eat the best. She said small dogs are finicky over food they don't eat like they should. And if she barks or whines, ignore her, don't say a word and don't look at her. Today, she has been sleeping in HER bed in the floor and hasn't tried to get on the couch. Yesterday, I kept putting her off the couch and she just sit there in the floor staring at me forever...My husband is having a hard time with this cause he likes to have her next to him to love on her and now he can't do that. Also, her allergies are so bad right now I can't take her for walks due to the pollen count being so high, so I gotta think of other ways to get her exercise indoors for now. Usually I'll run in her indoors through the house. The trainer said I have been doing everything right, it's the others haven't been doing anything. She said the counsel has spoken and Ginger has been voted off the island...lol. I said I stripped her of her crown, she's no longer Queen. I'll keep people posted with updates... she won't get depressed will she? That's our concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanie View Post
    Also, her allergies are so bad right now I can't take her for walks due to the pollen count being so high, so I gotta think of other ways to get her exercise indoors for now. Usually I'll run in her indoors through the house. she won't get depressed will she?
    Nah, she will not get depressed. Since she has bad allergies, what kibble is she on? Dogs tend to be allergic to grain/wheat in dog food.

    I would put this dog on free grain kibble food and add some supplements.

    I recommend put her on Honest Kitchen Sojos Europa, or Ziwi Peak dog food. Add salmon oil, vitamin E soft gels, and super C 2000 to her diet too.
    Last edited by French Ring; 04-19-2008 at 01:28 PM.

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    Will she get depressed? I think tht is the least of your worries.. Lot more depressing to have to PTS a dog for biting your face (and it could escalate to that).

    Sounds like you are doing this right at any rate. Invoking NILIF is a great idea. dog works for every thing the dogs wants access to.

    A dog that bites is not a happy dog. If she stops biting I think she will be showing she is much happier. Fact is, it is the dogs in unstructured environments that are the most depressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by French Ring View Post
    Nah, she will not get depressed. Since she has bad allergies, what kibble is she on? Dogs tend to be allergic to grain/wheat in dog food.

    I would put this dog on free grain kibble food and add some supplements.

    I recommend put her on Honest Kitchen Sojos Europa, or Ziwi Peak dog food. Add salmon oil, vitamin E soft gels, and super C 2000 to her diet too.
    I have her on Natural Balance Duck and Potato, it has Omegas in it, and we don't give her any treats. Thanks for the recommendation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elana55 View Post
    Will she get depressed? I think tht is the least of your worries.. Lot more depressing to have to PTS a dog for biting your face (and it could escalate to that).

    Sounds like you are doing this right at any rate. Invoking NILIF is a great idea. dog works for every thing the dogs wants access to.

    A dog that bites is not a happy dog. If she stops biting I think she will be showing she is much happier. Fact is, it is the dogs in unstructured environments that are the most depressed.
    She acts so sad when I won't let her on the couch, BUT my groomer laughed and said "yep she's hoping you'll give in". Everything's going good so far, and I now can see just how unruly she has got from not having any rules before. She will back up, wag her tail a little and bark at me when I won't let her on the couch or when I tell her to sit for something. I took her for a walk the other day and afterwards to take her harness off it took her 10 minutes to finally sit for me. She knows that command, it was the first one I taught her when she was a pup. If she wants to play do I make her do a command for that also? I have been. When do I give her love? I'm learning....
    Last edited by Leanie; 04-21-2008 at 10:37 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: My Shih Tzu attacked me

    By your invitation- if you invite her on couch- you cuddle- but you decide with that is enough.. Not her..

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