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    Regression in house training?

    Snoopy has had 4 accidents in the living room within the last month. Two happened in the morning time when I went to get the leash, so I started sitting him in a chair so that I can keep an eye on him while I get the leash. Then he was fine. But yesterday he had another accident but that was because I was at work and my grandma wasn't watching him. Then this morning it happened again but I had already got the leash on him and we were walking out the door when he stopped and pee'd on the floor. I told him in a stern voice that this was not acceptable and that he shouldn't pee in the house. I then took him outside where he finished up. Do you all think this could be something to do with the teenage stage or something that has to do with him getting neutered.


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    Re: Regression in house training?

    A little bit of both, I think. Maybe you could alter the morning schedule. Try picking up Snoopy before you go to get teh leash. So he is in your arms before you touch the leash. Put the leash on and carry him outsdie, no chance of piddling on the floor.

    You can still expect random acts of training breaks for many months. Even my adult dogs ocassionally "lose it" in a brain fart moment. With three dogs there generally isn't a month that I haven't cleaned up some kind of mess.
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    Re: Regression in house training?

    If it continues, you may want to ask your vet if it could be something to do with the neuter.

    It sounds like you are doing the correct things by verbally correcting him when you catch him in the act. I have small dogs, so when I catch them I also scoop them up as quickly as possible so there is a better chance of me interrupting them. Is he leg lifting at all?

    Going forward in the next few weeks I would just watch him like a hawk when you know he hasnt gone for a while. I have this automatic counter in the back of my head it seems and really keep an eye on my two when it is getting close to taking them out.

    You mentioned in another post that Snoopy has hardly had any accidents since you got him. While that is great, is it possible that he has just done really well with the schedule you have given him and not really learned that going inside is not OK? I only say this because it seemed to happen with Bailey. She did great between the ages of 5 and 7 months on the schedule we gave her. At around 7 months she had 2 accidents, both of which I caught in the act and took her outside. After that we havent had any issues with her.

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    Re: Regression in house training?

    I also tend to think that once they start doign better in the house and don't have accidents for a while.... we think that they are all set and we don't pay attention to them quite as much and we don't see the signals that we should and thus you have a borderline housebroken dog who doesn't always get out when he needs and has accidents cause he doesn't know what else to do....

    I would go back a few steps and you should have this under control in no time as long as you are sure he doesn't have a uti or anything like that
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    Well it could be that his schedule has been changed over the past two weeks with me being off for winter break. He had normally went out at 7am when I was leaving for school but since I have been on winter break I have been taking him out at 9am instead.

    He doesn't lift his leg which is why its so hard to catch him in the middle of doing it. Also since he is so small unless I am standing at a distance versus standing over him I can't tell if he is squatting. He only got alittle bit of pee on the floor this morning because we were walking out the door where he just stopped and tried to go. So I said "Hey!" really loud and he stopped and thats when I verbally corrected him and I rushed him outside.

    I think I will just have to go back a few steps and watch him better as you said shalva I haven't paying much attention to his signs as he doesn't give many in the first place unless he is in my room. Its weird because in my room he will start to get antsy and then he will try to get my attention by pawing at my leg and then he will look at the door. Which is his sign that he needs to go, but he doesn't do that in the living room.
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    Re: Regression in house training?

    Quote Originally Posted by Durbkat View Post
    Well it could be that his schedule has been changed over the past two weeks with me being off for winter break. He had normally went out at 7am when I was leaving for school but since I have been on winter break I have been taking him out at 9am instead.

    He doesn't lift his leg which is why its so hard to catch him in the middle of doing it. Also since he is so small unless I am standing at a distance versus standing over him I can't tell if he is squatting. He only got alittle bit of pee on the floor this morning because we were walking out the door where he just stopped and tried to go. So I said "Hey!" really loud and he stopped and thats when I verbally corrected him and I rushed him outside.

    I think I will just have to go back a few steps and watch him better as you said shalva I haven't paying much attention to his signs as he doesn't give many in the first place unless he is in my room. Its weird because in my room he will start to get antsy and then he will try to get my attention by pawing at my leg and then he will look at the door. Which is his sign that he needs to go, but he doesn't do that in the living room.
    does he sleep in your bedroom with you..... because if he does..... your bedroom has become like a crate.... he doesn't want to pee where he sleeps and if he sleeps in your room then he doesn't want to pee there.... the living room.... fair game... he doesn't sleep there.....

    I think going back a few steps and you will have this fixed in no time.
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    Re: Regression in house training?

    Yes he does sleep in my bedroom. He just pee'd in the hallway so there goes his new freedom of the hallway. Do you think I should go back to treating and praising him for going outside?


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    Arg! This dog is not making any sense to me. I just took him out about an hour and a half ago and he hadn't drank that much water in that time and he just pee'd in my room when I went to the bathroom. I don't see how he could have to go so soon! He was never like this before he got neutered.


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    How long has it been since Snoopy was neutered? It took Puddles about 2 weeks to get all her senses back in the housetraining department. The vet said that she was probably still numb down there and it took time to go away. I started with the basic puppy training all over again and it worked out. Good luck Durb.

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    He was neutered on the 3rd so its only been 3 full days since he was neutered. My mom is getting tired of the accidents so I hope he remembers that he is only supposed to go outside real soon or she will make me put the pads back down.


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    Re: Regression in house training?

    I am not very up on the specific anatomy, but I was wondering if the stitches were causing him to be extra sensitive of his bladder. I am wishing you luck, I am getting Oscar neutered very soon and am hoping he doesnt regress!

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    I wish you luck as well and just be prepared for the accidents. I am now going to start treating him like a little puppy and crate him whenever I leave the room.


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    Re: Regression in house training?

    I dont know with small dogs, but when my pups got neutered at close to six months, they never had any accidents in the house in terms of pee. Before the "RING THE BELL" trick, there was quite a few "2nd job accidents" which is really disgusting but this just started when we gave them a free run in the house and they really dont give a tell when they need to go. The "RING THE BELL" trick solved the problem and now here we are, ACCIDENT FREE ZONE finally.

    But the peeing issue, I guess you have to start all over again with SNOOPY, Durb. Crate him when you cant keep an eye. Now that he has unintentionally mark the house with his pee the smell will linger no matter how you try to clean it. But I guess the smell does go away after a while. But just for precautions, just crate him for now until he's able to control his bladder much longer and for you to be able to observe how often he needs to go.

    Poor SNOOPY. He went thru a lot in just a matter of days.

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    Re: Regression in house training?

    Durb, I had this issue with Ripley recently, and it was pretty much just as Shalva said, he seemed house trained, we hadn't been having accidents, and so I had given him a little more freedom. Then he had several accidents in a couple weeks time, and they were all just as I was about to take him out. Ours were poop accidents though. I went back to a scedule of taking him out more frequently and keeping a closer eye on him and the accidents seem to have stopped.

    We had also had a schedule change with winter break....I used to take them out at 6 am, and I began taking them out at 8 or 8:30 am, and the first day I woke up to Frosty peeing on the floor by the door, so I think you are onto something there with it possibly being about your schedule change.

    Oh, Durb, I just read that it's only been three days since th neuter, so he may just not be feeling well yet....if he's on pain meds, maybe he's a little drugged up?
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    Re: Regression in house training?

    No he isn't on any pain meds, I think he needed them the day of the neuter and the next day. He has returned to normal and its hard to keep him calm as he keeps trying to play.

    I'll keep you guys posted as to what happens when he gets back on schedule.


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    Well Snoopy had been doing good since he has been back on schedule, but just now he pee'd in my bedroom even though he had just been out 2 hours before. I just don't know what to do with him, I hope he out grows this, but I was able to catch him mid pee when I started yelling "ah ah" and he lowered his ears like he had been startled and then I rushed him outside, I hope that was the right thing to do as he finished up outside.


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    Re: Regression in house training?

    Durb...the only thing I have to add is to watch his frequency. These accidents since the neuter kind of make me think he could have a UTI. Boys don't get them nearly as often as girls, but they do get them. It could also be a that there is a small amount of swelling in that area and it is causing him to need to go more often and more urgently.

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    Re: Regression in house training?

    Could it still be swollen even nearly two weeks after the surgery? If he continues to have accidents I will take him to the vet to get checked for a UTI.


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    Re: Regression in house training?

    Quote Originally Posted by Durbkat View Post
    I hope that was the right thing to do as he finished up outside.
    You did the right thing. You interrupted him in the middle of something bad and gave him the opportunity to finish outside where he is supposed to go.

    Are you still using treats as positive reinforcement?

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    Re: Regression in house training?

    Quote Originally Posted by Durbkat View Post
    Could it still be swollen even nearly two weeks after the surgery? If he continues to have accidents I will take him to the vet to get checked for a UTI.
    LOL I wasn't watching dates of posts...I shouldn't post when I'm tired. I was thinking that the post you made yesterday was still 3-4 days after neuter. Sorry!

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